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[thylax]

We are a bunch of "life-destroyed" guys and this because of that f*****g disease. We are spending our time posting in here and trying to find a solution to our problem discussing it for hours, even though we know that this does not exist (except for a hair transplant+treatment for the rest of our lifes... even though this is under discussion for me). And all these because of this f*****g disease which we have not figured out what it exists for. :cry:

 

[Guest]

Switch to dutasteride from finasteride. You probably won't have to worry about your hair for 15 years. Better stuff will be out by then. It's as close to a complete treatment as we have.

 

[Boru]

You seem to be going mad. This is a positive forum for serious amateur research. I am winning, to a degree. Stop being mad, be positive, and join us in getting somewhere. If you want to be mad about injustice, go to anti something blogs. This is a positive site.

 

[Cassin]

Switch to dutasteride from finasteride. You probably won't have to worry about your hair for 15 years. Better stuff will be out by then. It's as close to a complete treatment as we have.

You probably shouldn't throw out that advice until guys are done with children.

 

[Guest]

You probably shouldn't throw out that advice until guys are done with children.

So use a condom until the kids are born. But there's no proof that dutasteride will cause birth defects, or that the dutasteride will cross into the placenta and into the baby's body. It should work the same as propecia does in that regard.

Post from Bryan on the subject:

http://www.hairlosshelp.com/FORUMS/mess ... adid=13311

"so what im gettin at is if you were in my shoes would you try dutasteride at my age, when thinking about having children?

Yes. Dutasteride levels in semen are obviously very low, just like they are with finasteride. Otherwise, the FDA wouldn't dream of allowing its use without strict precautions and restrictions. Don't worry about it.

Bryan"

 

[Cassin]

You probably shouldn't throw out that advice until guys are done with children.

So use a condom until the kids are born. But there's no proof that dutasteride will cause birth defects, or that the dutasteride will cross into the placenta and into the baby's body. It should work the same as propecia does in that regard.

Post from Bryan on the subject:

http://www.hairlosshelp.com/FORUMS/mess ... adid=13311

"so what im gettin at is if you were in my shoes would you try dutasteride at my age, when thinking about having children?

Yes. Dutasteride levels in semen are obviously very low, just like they are with finasteride. Otherwise, the FDA wouldn't dream of allowing its use without strict precautions and restrictions. Don't worry about it.

Bryan"

I understand and know this already. Regardless, this drug is powerful and side effects tend to linger for a very long time with dutasteride. It is just something that shouldn't be advised unless by a doctor.

 

[Guest]

You probably shouldn't throw out that advice until guys are done with children.

So use a condom until the kids are born. But there's no proof that dutasteride will cause birth defects, or that the dutasteride will cross into the placenta and into the baby's body. It should work the same as propecia does in that regard.

Post from Bryan on the subject:

http://www.hairlosshelp.com/FORUMS/mess ... adid=13311

"so what im gettin at is if you were in my shoes would you try dutasteride at my age, when thinking about having children?

Yes. Dutasteride levels in semen are obviously very low, just like they are with finasteride. Otherwise, the FDA wouldn't dream of allowing its use without strict precautions and restrictions. Don't worry about it.

Bryan"

I understand and know this already. Regardless, this drug is powerful and side effects tend to linger for a very long time with dutasteride. It is just something that shouldn't be advised unless by a doctor.

Cassin, if you read my posts on here you know that I always tell people to see a doctor before starting on Propecia even. I thought it was implied that he should ask his doctor about Avodart. I asked mine about it and i'm on it.

 

[Cassin]

Cassin, if you read my posts on here you know that I always tell people to see a doctor before starting on Propecia even. I thought it was implied that he should ask his doctor about Avodart. I asked mine about it and i'm on it.

Fair enough buddy.

Thanks for doing that.

 

[H/B]

Agreed with Cassin. Dutasteride is not approved to treat hairloss in young guys. the longterm outcome/consequence is unknown. There are a number of guys here who never gave finasteride a chance and foolishly jumped on dutasteride because they believe its better when finasteride or the big three may have worked just as well for them.

 

[TheGlamorous]

Initially I came here to find a "solution" to my hairloss.

My Propecia and Nizoral is no solution, but it is a help.

I continue to post here because I happen to enjoy the vibe of the community and get on well with a few posters here.

Most of my posts are in the off topic section.

I'm not "life-destroyed" for or by posting here.

I also frequent television show messageboards. And video game boards. This is just another board I come to for advice etc, i'm not drowned in it.

 

[joseph49853]

Agreed with Cassin. Dutasteride is not approved to treat hairloss in young guys. the longterm outcome/consequence is unknown. There are a number of guys here who never gave finasteride a chance and foolishly jumped on dutasteride because they believe its better when finasteride or the big three may have worked just as well for them.

I pretty much echo this sentiment. I don't believe too many doctors would risk prescribing Dutasteride for hairloss. So I'm not sure how necessary a doctor's visit would be anyway. Either you're going to self-medicate and risk taking Dutasteride for something other than Benign Prostate Hyperplasia, or not.

Or maybe I'm not one to put that much faith into the FDA, much less a study that never reached completion. And I'm not sure how much stock I'd put in advice on a hairloss site to the contrary.

 

[ginald]

desperate people will try anything regardless off any possible long term risks or otherwise to their health.

even when the risks are spelt out they carry on believing that it wont affect them....look at cigarette smokers, if you dont believe me.

if you take these 'hairloss' drugs then watch out.

shoot me down chaps by all means but this site requires more balanced argument against the use of drugs, imo.

 

[Guest]

ginald, if you are worried about people´s health you should rather tell them to stop moking or eating Junk Food at Burger King. Just think about all these mental problems hair loss brings up among balding guys in their 20s.

 

[Guest]

desperate people will try anything regardless off any possible long term risks or otherwise to their health.

even when the risks are spelt out they carry on believing that it wont affect them....look at cigarette smokers, if you dont believe me.

if you take these 'hairloss' drugs then watch out.

shoot me down chaps by all means but this site requires more balanced argument against the use of drugs, imo.

ginald, no offense, but most people come to this site looking for help on treating their hair loss condition. by arguing against the use of drugs, you are not helping these people.

 

[ginald]

desperate people will try anything regardless off any possible long term risks or otherwise to their health.

even when the risks are spelt out they carry on believing that it wont affect them....look at cigarette smokers, if you dont believe me.

if you take these 'hairloss' drugs then watch out.

shoot me down chaps by all means but this site requires more balanced argument against the use of drugs, imo.

ginald, no offense, but most people come to this site looking for help on treating their hair loss condition. by arguing against the use of drugs, you are not helping these people.

which is precisely my point, jay.

i know you believe in these drugs but when 98% of others also on this site are saying 'go on take these drugs, they'll do the job', it can be doing other hair loss sufferers a disservice....particularly young and impressionable budding baldies

i believe the spirit of this site was to foster support and psychological help for all, as much as to recommend and discuss drug treatments.

they need to hear all sides of the argument...i may be in the minority here but i think my voice and any other likeminded souls needs to be heard.

people can then make a more informed decision as to which route to take.

 

[Guest]

ginald, of course your are free to express your opinion. But the point is that you can not support your claims with any scientific evidence. All you talk about are some unknown long time risks even though Proscar and Propecia are being used for many years already without such outcome. Like that you will scare unsure people off these drugs, which might change their life for the better.

 

[Nathaniel]

Hairloss sucks.

 

[Cassin]

ginald, if you are worried about people´s health you should rather tell them to stop moking or eating Junk Food at Burger King. Just think about all these mental problems hair loss brings up among balding guys in their 20s.

Ok yeah but this is a hair loss site.........

People don't need to preface every comment they make by listing every unhealthy habit.