Micro needling methods and lack of results

[CastorTroy]

Have tried micro needling off and on in the past with no results I think it could be due to not going deep enough
On the pen I tried with the 36 needle even set at 1.5 the needles barely penetrated at all because the needles are so close together
I recently tried the 12 pin which penetrates deeper easily with more pain and a few days ago I tried a 1.5 dermaroller and kind of pounded it into my scalp lightly instead of rolling which is less pain yet I am going deep enough this way as well
I will be re trying this going deep enough and we’ll see

 

[mansamusamoney]

I suggest you see a dermatologist before going forward and possibly damaging your scalp beyond repair. You should not bleed from microneedling. Everyone's skin thickness is different. Micro needling for hair growth should really be done by professionals that understand the complex intricacies of hair follicles, your blood work and skin thickness among other factors that you have no clue about. No one should try microneedling on their own in reality.

The simple fact that you probably microneedle your scalp in the same room you sh*t in, should be a red flag about the lack of knowledge and dangers of bacterial infection that is very likely.

Ask yourself this before f*****g your sh*t up.

Do professionals ever reuse the same needles? Would professionals perform this procedure in the same room that they sh*t in?

 

[CastorTroy]

Every treatment has its own risk especially the ones the dermatologist recommend
Infection risk is slim to none if sterilization protocol is followed with alchohol and betadine

 

[RStGeorge]

Can people please tone down their language. We are all going through the same struggle

 

[TheHawk]

It’s not depth it’s repetition.

I get almost no results from once a week.

twice a day? It’ll get fuzzy and start sprouting in no more than two days. Depth matters least in my experience.

 

[EMILIO CHESSA]

lol

people know the follica routine but do their own thing regardless

this is why follica is a bust

too bad for you that the facts say something else ... you will be failure

 

[CastorTroy]

It’s not depth it’s repetition.

I get almost no results from once a week.

twice a day? It’ll get fuzzy and start sprouting in no more than two days. Depth matters least in my experience.

Can I ask your regimen ?
so you dermaroll twice a day everyday?
.5mm ? And do you use minix ? Thx

 

[Randomuser_5]

I suggest you see a dermatologist before going forward and possibly damaging your scalp beyond repair. You should not bleed from microneedling. Everyone's skin thickness is different. Micro needling for hair growth should really be done by professionals that understand the complex intricacies of hair follicles, your blood work and skin thickness among other factors that you have no clue about. No one should try microneedling on their own in reality.

The simple fact that you probably microneedle your scalp in the same room you sh*t in, should be a red flag about the lack of knowledge and dangers of bacterial infection that is very likely.

Ask yourself this before f*****g your sh*t up.

Do professionals ever reuse the same needles? Would professionals perform this procedure in the same room that they sh*t in?

I get what you mean about sanitisation but I would imagine most people micro-needling know better than to not sanitise the needle before use. Also, the bathroom is probably the most sanitary place to micro-needle as your ‘sh*t’ goes down the toilet, not in the sink where most people would be micro-needling and washing their hands daily (especially during these times). Bathrooms are designed to be sanitary. I’m not sure where you ‘sh*t’ in your bathroom or how sanitary your bathroom is.

Most people seeing results from micro-needling aren’t getting it done by professionals either, they’re doing it from their home. It works and there is scientific studies and countless testimonies to prove it. For example, 1.5mm depth has seen the best results from studies, regardless of skin thickness. The mean length of a scalp hair follicle is 4.16mm. 1.5mm into that does not kill the hair follicle. And rest assured, drawing blood is normal from micro-needling and recruits growth factors. Please do your research before commenting and ‘ask yourself this before f*****g your sh*t up.’

Nor do you need blood work done to micro-needle, why would you get bloodwork done for that? (Rhetorical question)

You genuinely lack knowledge on the subject. Everybody please ignore this user.

 

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[Poppyburner]

If it's of any interest:
I've grown/regrown maybe a dozen permanent terminal scalp hairs on the hair line, by way derma-stamping with 80 needles, at a depth of 1.5mm.
Tends to be a very bloody business.
I have no more than two sessions a week and always rub in liquid topicals immediately afterwards.

 

[RStGeorge]

How long has it taken? And did they start off as blond vellous hairs?

 

[jake_b]

I don’t see how anyone could do more than once a week. It takes like 5 days for my skin to recover

 

[inmyhead]

I don’t see how anyone could do more than once a week. It takes like 5 days for my skin to recover

How deep do you penetrate? It takes my skin like a day or two max to recover if I do 1mm on max speed with derminator 1 for 5 minutes until whole scalp is red and minimal bleeding.

 

[Redgate]

Stop trying to find the ideal needling method. It doesn't matter. After years and a thread with over 15k posts we still don't know the best method and Follica came out with a method that's completely different to what everyone was doing at that point.
Stick with a standard 1.5mm weekly from the studies or 0.8-1mm biweekly from follica and move on.

Instead of trying and pondering on the optimal microneedling depth and frequency, you should be considering whether to start using duta, RU, oral minoxidil, topical estriol etc.

 

[kiwi666]

lol

people know the follica routine but do their own thing regardless

this is why follica is a bust

I disagree. There are soooooooo many people here not getting results probably because we’re not doing it right.

I wish I could remember where I read it but they are going for more of a burn / scorched effect than bleeding and scabbing.

I guess we’ll find out when they launch. When the do I’ll get it done properly at a clinic than I’ll know.

 

[coolio]

We know it's safe to needle your skin deep enough to draw a lot of blood.

We know it's safe to needle your skin without bleeding, very frequently on the same spot.


Guess what these two facts DON'T add up to prove?

 

[Jakejr]

Microneedling by itself won’t do anything.
I do it because:
1) It provides blood to the scalp better than any massage.
2) It’s very fast & cheap
3) The puncture wounds heal very fast, nobody can really notice
4) The wounds as they heal are flooded with growth factors.
5) It may help break up calcification of scalp
6) Dermatologist actually use microneedling, so it has some science & studies behind it.
At best it is part of your protocol
The titanium type, for me don’t tangle the hairs. I have .25, .5, 1, & 1.5
Unnecessary to go any larger.

 

[trialAcc]

I disagree. There are soooooooo many people here not getting results probably because we’re not doing it right.

I wish I could remember where I read it but they are going for more of a burn / scorched effect than bleeding and scabbing.

I guess we’ll find out when they launch. When the do I’ll get it done properly at a clinic than I’ll know.

His sarcasm went over your head haha, he's saying the exact same thing as you. People don't do what the patent describes (this applies to other compounds too like CB, where people take less dosage, use a random vehicle or don't have pure tested CB) and then claim that it's a bust.

 

[kiwi666]

His sarcasm went over your head haha, he's saying the exact same thing as you. People don't do what the patent describes (this applies to other compounds too like CB, where people take less dosage, use a random vehicle or don't have pure tested CB) and then claim that it's a bust.

Truth. I totally misread that

They can’t loose. We’re basically a community of people proving that we need them and can’t needle properly.

 

[jake_b]

How deep do you penetrate? It takes my skin like a day or two max to recover if I do 1mm on max speed with derminator 1 for 5 minutes until whole scalp is red and minimal bleeding.

I’ve got a A6 pen and I do around 1.25mm