Minoxidil Problem, Looking For Other Solution

[damagedolan]

Hello Friends,

My situation is simple: I used minoxidil 5%, twice a day, for about 5 weeks. The longer I used it the more side effects I was getting. The more side effects I was getting the more I was lowering the dosage. At the last week I was using twice a day about 0,1 - 0,2 ml in total on my face and scalp (I was trying to improve both my beard and head hair). I stopped using it completly more than 7 days ago. It is because I experienced: fear (felt really, really scared - like bad trip on drugs), heart palpitations, chest pains, brain fog, extreme overheating, thirst, weakening. These side effects would not occur all the day. It was worst at the morning and midday. I simply felt like poisoned.
I am a tough guy. Strong phisically. I workout regullary. Also experienced a lot of things in life. And never felt so much poisoned and closer to a stroke.

After I stopped using it I got rid of mentioned above side effects almost completly. But whats left are: dark circles under my eyes, wrinkles around my eyes and lips, bloated saggy face and red skin around my nose. I looked so bad that someone asked me If I have cancer... and my brother told me that I looked like 10 years older and should not work so much and sleep better. Its a little bit better now after I stopped using minoxidil. I also had wrinkles around my nose I dont see them now... I would also mention that I gained a lot of new hair so It was working... kinda.

I would like to ask if anyone has any experience with such side effects after using minoxidil and cured them?
Dark eyes are the thing that bothers me the most.

Before minoxidil I was using Pokrzepol (only natural herbals combined for hair grownth). In six months of usage I gained some new hair but less than on minoxidil although I had no side effects at all. I am back to pokrzepol now.
To describe it better: at the start I took an area on my cheek where I had 12 hairs growing, after using minoxidil it increased to 37 and at least 10 additional hair that were so small that I dont count them. These 12 hairs did not exist before Pokrzepol. The area was completly bald. You know how it worked now.

Please tell me If You know any good product that You would recommend for hair grownth and it does not cause any side effects. Today i read about adenosine. Is it good? I am 22 years old by the way. Also I Think I am loosing hair on my head a little bit more. Its not bad yet.

 

[Zoro]

I didn't have any side effects except really bad palpitations the first time i used it. I already had random palpitations even before minoxidil, didnt touch it again for almost a year and when I did i got palpitations again. Still kept using it even though i was having palpitations (not a good thing to do) but weirdly, the palpitations went away and now I somehow even have LESS palpitations then before I started using minoxidil. Now I wish it would do something for my damn hair.

Hair loss treatments are some weird sh*t

 

[barfacan]

I guess if you rub it on your face for beard growth you'll get some worse side effects.

 

[SmoothSailing]

The sides will all go, at worse leaving a few wrinkles but highly unlikely as you only used it 5 weeks.

 

[michel sapin]

don't worry man, at first i was like you believing that minoxidil could cause wrinkles and dark circle , but it is all in your head , i am sure you read it on the net and then stating noticing things . Like me , i almost did a mental breakdown because of this

 

[cyrusthegreat@hotmail.com]

Sides will disappear after discontinuing minoxidil. Have you considered using 2% minoxidil instead?

 

[Alk]

Your sides are definitely not in your head but the will subside. Try and drink a lot of water sp your body has no reason to retain any.

 

[GoldenMane]

Minoxidil causes brain fog now?

It was originally a heart medication though some some of those sides are certainly plausible.

 

[Massive]

I use Kirkland foam and liquid minoxidil on my scalp and entire. For the scalp I only use the foam, as I'm extremely sensetive to the PG in the liquid version. I use quite a lot each application, at least a full cap - twice a day.

As for my entire beard including sideburns I normally use the liquid version (at least 1ml each application), for some odd reasom my cheeks and neck are less sensetive to the PG, I sometimes get mild itchings, and if I feel like the itching is too much I take a break from the liquid and use the foam on my face.

As for side effects, only when I apply minoxidil on my face, especially the liquid, my face feels flushed and I might feel slightly more tired, but nothing like the op describes here.

It feels to me like I'm fighting a losing battle with finasteride and minoxidil for my hair, so I might as well get the best beard I can with minoxidil if I ever just shave it off.

By the way, those sides you describe remind when I took oral minoxidil 10mg of some thai generic brand. I woke up to pee to find myself nearly fainting. Lucky there was someone there to take care of me as I could barely move and nearly blacked out, my blood pressure was 60/40 and I was sweating to death just sitting. After I chugged down a few cups of extremely strong coffee, after about 15-20 minutes of sitting still I started getting back to a state where I feel better to stand and move around, I was still hospitalized and luckily everything showed up normal in my tests.
I'd say if you're applying minoxidil on you face, make sure nothing is getting in your mouth swallowed, i know when applying minoxidil to the moustache and soul patch area it's easy for some to get drippes in ur mouth or just touching ur face afterwards and then ur mouth so be careful with that.
Altogether good luck with your hair.

 

[Sokubo]

By the way, those sides you describe remind when I took oral minoxidil 10mg of some thai generic brand. I woke up to pee to find myself nearly fainting. Lucky there was someone there to take care of me as I could barely move and nearly blacked out, my blood pressure was 60/40 and I was sweating to death just sitting. After I chugged down a few cups of extremely strong coffee, after about 15-20 minutes of sitting still I started getting back to a state where I feel better to stand and move around, I was still hospitalized and luckily everything showed up normal in my tests.

Noxidil Forte?

I bought and used that for a bit (about 10 years ago, 5 mg) to see what it would do to some of the vellus hairs near what used to be my hairline. It thickened them up a good bit, better than 5% Rogaine, and I was planning on staying on it for a good while... until I turned into a bit of a hirsute (people began to take note) and started to notice some other weird sides about 4 months in. I thought it was for the best to scrap the idea, though I never had any blood pressure issues, and I had it recorded twice while using it.

 

[michel sapin]

sobuko : when you stopped minoxidil, your unwanted body hair fall?

 

[Sokubo]

sobuko : when you stopped minoxidil, your unwanted body hair fall?

Yes, it did, in pretty short order.

 

[Massive]

Noxidil Forte?

I bought and used that for a bit (about 10 years ago, 5 mg) to see what it would do to some of the vellus hairs near what used to be my hairline. It thickened them up a good bit, better than 5% Rogaine, and I was planning on staying on it for a good while... until I turned into a bit of a hirsute (people began to take note) and started to notice some other weird sides about 4 months in. I thought it was for the best to scrap the idea, though I never had any blood pressure issues, and I had it recorded twice while using it.

From what I underdstand, the Noxidil Forte brand is not available in Thailand anymore and now there's another brand called Loxidil Forte, though there are also other local generic brands there.
A friend of mine living over there got them for me for dirt cheap, 100 tablets of 5mg for 100 baht and 100 tablets of 10mg for 180 baht, it's literally free compared to minoxidil foam and enhanced liquid versions.

As for my experience with oral minoxidil, I picked up my mail order from the post office around noon, right there and then I fearlessly opened the package and took my first 5mg pill. From there I had to go to a hardware store which is 10 minutes walk at most, about 5 minutes into my walk this overwhelming sensation if drifting away came over me and I was worried I'm gonna faint or something and thought to myself why do I carelessly take some generic thai pills which I don't really know what's in there, I then quickly got my water out and drank what I had left, I started feeling better but I still felt kind of drowsy.
I got home around 4-5 hours later and decided since everything was ok, I'll take my 2nd 5mg dose and go to sleep. I went to sleep around 17:30pm (was awake from day before) and woke up at 23:15pm to pee to find myself blacking out and my blood pressure was 60/40. I forgot to mention, I also had chest pains.

I tried playing around for a few days days taking only a quarter of 5mg, and I think I got very mild chest pains and a bit of fatigue. I eventually decided this is not something I wanna mess around with.
My plan is perhaps to try and get a hold of original Loniten and start with 2.5mg and see how I react to it, then perhaps build up to 5mg. I don't I would want to use 10mg in the long run.

Would you mind describing in more detail your hirsutism situation, was it that bad ? And what about those other crazy sides you mentioned ?
I must say it's great to know that even a dose such as 5mg worked for you better than topical version. Do you think you would ever go back to using oral minoxidil again ?

 

[michel sapin]

you had to pluck them , or they regain their oiginal thicknes on their own ?

 

[Sokubo]

From what I underdstand, the Noxidil Forte brand is not available in Thailand anymore and now there's another brand called Loxidil Forte, though there are also other local generic brands there.
A friend of mine living over there got them for me for dirt cheap, 100 tablets of 5mg for 100 baht and 100 tablets of 10mg for 180 baht, it's literally free compared to minoxidil foam and enhanced liquid versions.

As for my experience with oral minoxidil, I picked up my mail order from the post office around noon, right there and then I fearlessly opened the package and took my first 5mg pill. From there I had to go to a hardware store which is 10 minutes walk at most, about 5 minutes into my walk this overwhelming sensation if drifting away came over me and I was worried I'm gonna faint or something and thought to myself why do I carelessly take some generic thai pills which I don't really know what's in there, I then quickly got my water out and drank what I had left, I started feeling better but I still felt kind of drowsy.
I got home around 4-5 hours later and decided since everything was ok, I'll take my 2nd 5mg dose and go to sleep. I went to sleep around 17:30pm (was awake from day before) and woke up at 23:15pm to pee to find myself blacking out and my blood pressure was 60/40. I forgot to mention, I also had chest pains.

I tried playing around for a few days days taking only a quarter of 5mg, and I think I got very mild chest pains and a bit of fatigue. I eventually decided this is not something I wanna mess around with.
My plan is perhaps to try and get a hold of original Loniten and start with 2.5mg and see how I react to it, then perhaps build up to 5mg. I don't I would want to use 10mg in the long run.

Would you mind describing in more detail your hirsutism situation, was it that bad ? And what about those other crazy sides you mentioned ?
I must say it's great to know that even a dose such as 5mg worked for you better than topical version. Do you think you would ever go back to using oral minoxidil again ?

Yeah, I'm sure it was cheap on the ground. I can't remember the exact price I paid for it online, but it was very reasonable for two sets of 100 tablets.

Those sides aren't good, and I can't blame you for stopping. I had the same reaction after I stopped taking them of "Wow, I just bought generic Thai pharmaceuticals that could have been made in some guy's basement".

But yeah, to preface, I'm not a very hairy guy, I never have been, and the hair I do have is pretty light and unimposing, and so when I did start getting so much new hair, and it was all very dark, it was very noticeable (I was around 30 at the time, too). It was everywhere, my ears, nose, arms, chest, legs, and more, I just got so much new body hair that I imagine was either never noticeable to me due to it being so light and fine or completely new entirely (I imagine it was the former).

As for the other sides, one of the most concerning ones was how my legs especially would get incredibly numb (like they fell asleep, except they wouldn't come back to normal for an hour or so). Like you I was a little weak at first for a while as well. This is more tenuous, but I also noticed my skin got incredibly dry (something I'm not prone too), even though it was extremely humid and in the Spring and Summer. Those are the two that particularly stick out, though I'm sure there may have been others if I think about it more.

I might considering getting on it again if I need to, but I've been holding pretty steady at my current Norwood 4 for a long time, so my next step is likely to get a transplant, in which case I may revisit it, though likely with an even smaller dose, maybe something like 2.5mg, given the power 5mg had on me. If you really think about it, depending on how a person's body reacts, it might be a better bet when it comes to sides than finasteride. Obviously there is more risk in it though, as both of us found out.

 

[damagedolan]

Hello friends

I came here just to tell You that some of side effects like wrinkles and bloating face are much better now. I am kinda shocked that these massive wrinkles around my lips are mostly gone in a few days. My face also looks sharper now. No more weird, saggy skin around my jaw and neck . Definately i dont have red skin around my nose anymore. But the skin quality there is worse. I did not use any oils when I was on minoxidil but I will use coconut oil and lets see what happends. The only thing that remains bad or even worse is the area around my eyes. The pufiness is even worse. Also it seems like the skin under my eyes is more like violet now but it was brown. Of course its not like I fully recovered but when I look at my face in the mirror I dont see myself as 30 years old junkie but just really tired man of my age. I lost some hair on my scalp too. But its not a problem for someone like me who doesnt have a problem with hair on top of the head. So I dont really mind. The most suprising thing is that my facial hair almost doubled in some areas. I dont really know what minoxidil did but its still working. Right after stopping minoxidil usage I started using some natural herbals which are DHT blockers. I used them before but there was little effect. I dont know if its minoxidil still working or just it did something that these herbals can work better now. Summaring: I am actually kinda positive now about minoxidil usage. I would go for it again but I would start with lowest dosage and then would slowly rise it up every month. I will come back here again after a few weeks and months I will tell You if anything got better and worse. Hope it helps anyone.




Massive, You are really right, man. When I was on minoxidil and I drunk a coffee the side effects related to my heart and mind would go away. I see that you experienced something like me.
BTW Thats how I survived on minoxidil. If I didnt drink coffee often then I would probably faint or needed medical treartment. Coffee helps but I stopped becase I noticed something is going wrong with me.

 

[damagedolan]

Hello friends

It's been almost a month since i wrote my first post. All side effects are gone exept dark circles under my eyes. And whats worse they didnt get too much better ( I would say they didnt get better at all but I will use this word to keep myself motivated). Also my gains started to disappear. They are not falling out yet. They are just growing much much slower then the rest of my beard. And thats about it. I came here because I was wondering "well... wrinkles were gone pretty fast, bloated face too and my eyes are already bad so maybe I should continue using minoxidil... with the lowest dosage ever". It kinda sucks that I am not getting any new hair and still stuck with junkie eyes. Also it proves that mentioned in previous posts herbals doest work as I though they would do. So I have no alternative. What to do? What to do?

 

[thickhaironhead]

Hello friends

It's been almost a month since i wrote my first post. All side effects are gone exept dark circles under my eyes. And whats worse they didnt get too much better ( I would say they didnt get better at all but I will use this word to keep myself motivated). Also my gains started to disappear. They are not falling out yet. They are just growing much much slower then the rest of my beard. And thats about it. I came here because I was wondering "well... wrinkles were gone pretty fast, bloated face too and my eyes are already bad so maybe I should continue using minoxidil... with the lowest dosage ever". It kinda sucks that I am not getting any new hair and still stuck with junkie eyes. Also it proves that mentioned in previous posts herbals doest work as I though they would do. So I have no alternative. What to do? What to do?

Maybe you should try the oral minoxidil alternative, it has more potential while less sides on face.

 

[kiwipilu]

Maybe you should try the oral minoxidil alternative, it has more potential while less sides on face.

wrong

 

[arnoldd]

Maybe you should try the oral minoxidil alternative, it has more potential while less sides on face.

Probably the opposite. Oral has more sides and less potential because it goes systemic and travel all the body, only a little reach the scalp