It's been nearly one year since My hairloss started. I haven't been to a doctor or dermatologist yet. I have been searching about treatments and used a lot of time on the internet. Asking questions in forums and reading studies and so on. I have seen inaccurrate information about treatments a few times. an example is the succes rate of Minoxidil. nearly every site says 38-40 percent and saw one place saying 60 percent. I've seen something similar with finasteride. Should i get the information from a dermatologist or doctor?. Is it Possible that there is treatments i haven't heard of yet?. Is it okay to use the internet for this kind of stuff for so long. I don't think that there is something i haven't heard about. Because I have been using most of My time reading and searching for 4 months.
Nearly one year long battle against hairloss
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When using a site like this one, you need to be wary of what are known as self-selection errors. This means, one assumes, that anyone who does in fact recover from Telogen Effluvium never comes back to tell us since that was just a passing concern. Some of that can be true in terms of people like me using HRT where people figure success is guaranteed but I make no such claims because I read my mail, all of it, from other MtF's and results even for us, are highly variable and maybe not even age dependent since I saw regrowth for the first time in my mid-50's but not until recently in terms of little hairs coming up like from blond grass seed.
Oral minoxidil might work for most people, at least some 80% say, and my bet for topical is that it mostly provides maintenance but only a little regrowth of 40% or so, so that's what people usually say, forty to sixty percent have results from topicals. I never saw any results ever from finasteride/duta or topical min in 35 years, only maintenance. Maintenance is the male cure and yet so many guys refuse to just accept it. It's not the sexual sides in my opinion. Males feel guilty for using it because of being shamed by other guys. Real men don't care about hair loss or looks really in my marine corp officer-led family and my father had perfect hair all lined up in his crew cut and all. Wait until you are in college to grow it long, he said, which he never did in college sigh.
So I have been on finasteride since '98 and finasteride and Duta since 2015 and no sides ever. Many trannies only get sides like this, like I got from spironolactone but like in Terminator, "come with me if you want to save your hair". You can PM me and nobody else has tried the different permutations that I have tried how I have tried them because I only use meds, methods and treatments that actually work. I never use things that are purportedly good for hair. I have Biotin in my Nature-made Multi for her and that's plenty. There's nothing shown to be good for hair ever because hair, while needing nutrients, doesn't work like shade grown grass in the front yard. Nothing affects hair not even stress unless we are starving and I know Telogen Effluvium down to some spare scraps so I have had pretty much all of the disaster available out there as well and for some things like transplants, I might be overly negative about but only microneedling can save bad transplants so I have reason to do it for that reason until all scars, fringe and on top are gone. Some of my grafts and stitches itch after 32 years, Goddess-damit so this isn't without cause in terms of warning that transplants are not something I generally recommend. They are too risky and riskier than going full-blown tranny as some of my male friends referred to me as since it's true. I went full-blown tranny for my hair, I swear, I don't want male partners and the youth and rejuvenation make me press a line in the sand. 55 years as male and now the next 55 as female and then I will compare in terms of what stem cell and robotic improvements I make. Maybe they will have Android dicks for everybody that shoot real semen for FtM's. As so many guys say on here, who knows what the future holds.
But I would rather be female and as perfect as I can make Janey then any longer presenting as XY and looking like a rapidly-aging hobo:
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There are only 3 treatments (aside from the extremes that will likely have significant side effects) minoxidil, finasteride, and dutasteride. The first two are fda approved. My personal experience is that finasteride doesn't regrow hair. If anything, you still lose hair just slower. The numbers say 66% regrow hair but I'm kinda skeptical on that because I lost a ton of hair from a shed and the hairline has 0 replacement hairs. Maybe I'm one of the 15% who didn't respond well. Minoxidil I read is 50/50. Half the people who use it respond well.
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and the other half who don't respond are bald and on here asking about RU, CB, A-Estradiol, fluridil and other treatments proven not to grow cosmetically significant hair and you can add all of the prostaglandins in there and many of the guys currently claiming to love their transplants. Come back in 32 years and then tell me says Janey since most or all of mine were exhausted by 50 and few of you can even contemplate chasing hair at 50 sort of like old men using v**** if they can find somebody looking for bald rigidity. Few chicks are.
Ah ok i haven't heard oral Minoxidil works for a larger percent of People compared to the topical one. How sure are you that it works for about 80 percent?. I'm considering to start use it if the succes rate are that high and above 70%. I haven't seen bigger studies yet regarding the oral Minoxidil. I want to grow My own hair instead of using a hairsystem or take estrogen.
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I think the only testing is from Upjohn in the 80's so who knows but oral min is definitely a hormonal medication since it grows hair everywhere. I keep titrating downward from 25 mg to now 6.25 mg.
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this is very pessimistic. Studies show 80% preserve their hair, 64% regrow some. I don’t believe many regrow a lot of hair, but if you just started losing hair, finasteride is the way to go, and be quick about it!
I had a little regrowth and preserved hair. I’m going on 15 years of propecia use now. I may be below baseline but it ain’t by much if so.
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15 years is pretty good. Consider yourself lucky. If I lost a little ground over 15 years then I would hit 46 with maybe a norwood 3. That's phenomenal.
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Here. Try seeing if this helps. He has some statistics:
Oral Minoxidil Dosage (mg) For Men With Pattern Hair Loss
Oral minoxidil doses from 0.25mg to 5.0mg improve hair growth in men. But the higher the dose, the worse the side effects. So, is there a sweet spot? Yes.
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I used minoxidil for 20 years at a very regular twice/day. All it did was give me just enough peach fuzz all over that I could make Toppik, etc. work with a buzz cut. Now with a better job/financial situation (and a new job in which the limitations of using concealors would soon become quite evident) finally gave up and with with a nice high-end system and salon.
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Get your info from doctors. Why would you put any stock in the anecdotal reports of laymen when you can ask someone who actually knows what they’re talking about?
There are only 2 treatments now that are scientifically established to work against male pattern baldness, (unless you’re willing to consider estradiol), finasteride and dutasteride. Everything else doesn’t treat the underlying cause of the condition and their effect is purely cosmetic.
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I’ve been on finasteride for over 2 years. Zero sides. Hairline got better, density stayed the same, pretty much Maintained. Most people will maintain. Regrowth is lucky, finasteride is more of a pause button
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It will pause for awhile but eventually as you get older the hair is going to be more sensitive to androgens and that 30-40% dht left in the scalp is going to cause miniaturization