New? FAQ web page on Intercytex Trychocyte (ICX-TRC)

[elguapo]

Sorry if this is a repeat. I just saw it last night. I swear I submitted my email to the alert service, but every now and then they update their info on TRC, and I don't receive an email afterwords.

http://www.intercytex.com/icx/products/aesthetic/icxtrc/faqsicxtrc/

It looks like they are giving a more realistic release date prediction of 2010. They also say that TRC is considered a medicine in terms of the clinical trials, so maybe this means that Phase III will be required, and maybe this is the reason for the 2010 date. I don't know.

 

[jonny21]

Even if this was reapeated, so what? That's great information. I too like the more realistic 2010 release date. I think most people on this site, including myself can't wait for this to come out. Hopefully the PhaseII trials are successful and they can push along to PhaseIII. I'm gonna start putting some money aside, cause I'll bet this won't be cheap.

 

[Optimist]

Thanks for posting that, there is a lot of good info. there. I got the general impression from it that the scientists are not making progress as quickly as they thought they would and that there are still concerns as to whether or not the product will work.

It is interesting that both Aderans and Intercyted now both have relatively the same release date, 2010.

I think we should use both Aderans and Intercytex's moving target as an indication that we can't really put too much faith in their predictions. If they have moved their release date once, they can do it twice, and trice etc.

 

[FabioM]

Hum,good FAQ although i got a little bit pessimist about those "top-ups"

I guess the top-ups will make us spend more money, and since the hairloss will continue we will need to continue to take finastride and minoxidil to stop more hairloss.

That might be good, as since we know we have hairloss it will look like we are taking it since the start of the whole hairloss process , a thing most of us only discovered months later when hairloss was setting in.

But i´m still optimistic though about this product.

 

[Optimist]

Sh*t, they pushed it away once more.The phase 2 will last in 2008...Good-buy hopes.

I don't think they changed anything there. I recall them always saying they wouldn't end until 08. The've always said they would release an update on the trial in 07 and stey are still saying that, so nothing has changed.

 

[Optimist]

Sh*t, they pushed it away once more.The phase 2 will last in 2008...Good-buy hopes.

I don't think they changed anything there. I recall them always saying they wouldn't end until 08. The've always said they would release an update on the trial in 07 and stey are still saying that, so nothing has changed.

You are too optimistic.

I don't see the basis for saying I am "too optimist." I only pointed out that you are wrong about them pushing phase II trials back. If you look at my other point you will see that I acknowledged that their overall release target appears to be moving and their predictions should not be trusted.

 

[DaSand]

The 2010 release date to me is more realistic because it's going to take time for this procedure to be effective. Plus, I have 3 years to build up funds for this when I finally get this (Hope to have a good job around that period).

2008 was just wishful thinking, there's no way they could've gotten it out that soon. Like a piece of art or a project, it takes time for it to develop. But I'm still looking forward to this. While I'm seeing ICX-TRC is not a cure, it's close to one.

 

[Optimist]

The 2010 release date to me is more realistic because it's going to take time for this procedure to be effective. Plus, I have 3 years to build up funds for this when I finally get this (Hope to have a good job around that period).

2008 was just wishful thinking, there's no way they could've gotten it out that soon. Like a piece of art or a project, it takes time for it to develop. But I'm still looking forward to this. While I'm seeing ICX-TRC is not a cure, it's close to one.

2010 is wishful thinking as well. You're gonna have plenty of time to save up.

 

[DaSand]

The 2010 release date to me is more realistic because it's going to take time for this procedure to be effective. Plus, I have 3 years to build up funds for this when I finally get this (Hope to have a good job around that period).

2008 was just wishful thinking, there's no way they could've gotten it out that soon. Like a piece of art or a project, it takes time for it to develop. But I'm still looking forward to this. While I'm seeing ICX-TRC is not a cure, it's close to one.

2010 is wishful thinking as well. You're gonna have plenty of time to save up.

They said 2010 on their website as an estimate, no one honestly knows when it will come out. Frankly, on this board and others there's a lot of pesimissism about this from others (who I think some have agendas) and people are losing hope. I'm not going to lose hope despite all the various dates people think it's going to be out.

I just disagree with your 2010 is wishful thinking statement.

It's just I'm going to get used to seeing sh*t hair for a while despite I started treating it now.

I guess the fact is before it comes out, I'm going to have a shaved head for a while and I'm sick of seeing younger guys and older men have better heads of hair than me.

 

[Optimist]

The 2010 release date to me is more realistic because it's going to take time for this procedure to be effective. Plus, I have 3 years to build up funds for this when I finally get this (Hope to have a good job around that period).

2008 was just wishful thinking, there's no way they could've gotten it out that soon. Like a piece of art or a project, it takes time for it to develop. But I'm still looking forward to this. While I'm seeing ICX-TRC is not a cure, it's close to one.

2010 is wishful thinking as well. You're gonna have plenty of time to save up.

They said 2010 on their website as an estimate, no one honestly knows when it will come out. Frankly, on this board and others there's a lot of pesimissism about this from others (who I think some have agendas) and people are losing hope. I'm not going to lose hope despite all the various dates people think it's going to be out.

I just disagree with your 2010 is wishful thinking statement.

It's just I'm going to get used to seeing $#iT hair for a while despite I started treating it now.

I guess the fact is before it comes out, I'm going to have a shaved head for a while and I'm sick of seeing younger guys and older men have better heads of hair than me.

Even if it becomes available in 2010 (and it won't), I wouldn't suggest being the first in line to get a brand new procedure. Even Intercytex admitted that there will be improvements made after launch.

I agree the waiting sucks. My hairloss is just now becoming quite noticeable and I am thinking of shaving or getting a Farrell system in a couple years and then waiting for HM to come out.

I don't understand the pessimism, the fact that corporations are now working on HM and trials are being done on humans is huge. If you look at where we were 5 years ago the progess is extraordinary.

 

[sore loser]

I agree with optimist completely - this is going to take a while, but they wouldn't be investing all this money/time/effort into this technique if it didn't show real promise. Remember, 2010 is probably a "best case scenario" estimate, and things are most likely bound to go wrong, or need perfecting.

There is always the chance that phase to trial results will be worthless. Phase 2 means phase 2. So right now, probably its best to focus on their mid-year report before getting hyped up about a release date.

But optimist brings up a great point - look at the progress made in the last 5 years. Hell, look at 10 years - finasteride wasn't even FDA approved then. Compared to then, our options are far greater now.

Just because HM or other new techniques won't be released tomorrow is not reason to be discouraged.

 

[DaSand]

You are right sore loser, I shouldn't get discouraged but I'm getting sick of waiting. I do think before it comes out, the razor is going to come out and mow my head. I think also stress made the process go faster (The past year had me stressed severly). Maybe it's all one big test and I'll end up getting it.

When it does come out hopefully before it's too late, I will have the funds ready.

I also hated the baldness when I was younger because I got jokes about it (even from a NW7 who was 21). My head is not the right shape and I have a dick shaped head.

I want to take finasteride or Propecia, but availible funds keep me back.

 

[Optimist]

You are right sore loser, I shouldn't get discouraged but I'm getting sick of waiting. I do think before it comes out, the razor is going to come out and mow my head. I think also stress made the process go faster (The past year had me stressed severly). Maybe it's all one big test and I'll end up getting it.

When it does come out hopefully before it's too late, I will have the funds ready.

I also hated the baldness when I was younger because I got jokes about it (even from a NW7 who was 21). My head is not the right shape and I have a dick shaped head.

I want to take finasteride or Propecia, but availible funds keep me back.

Just out of curiosity, have you ever considered a hairpiece? I'm considering it, but at the same time I am horrified by the idea, so I'm not sure what I will do.

 

[DaSand]

You are right sore loser, I shouldn't get discouraged but I'm getting sick of waiting. I do think before it comes out, the razor is going to come out and mow my head. I think also stress made the process go faster (The past year had me stressed severly). Maybe it's all one big test and I'll end up getting it.

When it does come out hopefully before it's too late, I will have the funds ready.

I also hated the baldness when I was younger because I got jokes about it (even from a NW7 who was 21). My head is not the right shape and I have a dick shaped head.

I want to take finasteride or Propecia, but availible funds keep me back.

Just out of curiosity, have you ever considered a hairpiece? I'm considering it, but at the same time I am horrified by the idea, so I'm not sure what I will do.

Yeah, but people are going to know it's a fake.

 

[Optimist]

Well that of course is what I'm afraid of. I'm not sure though, lots of celebrities wear them and are able to pull it off.

 

[tchehov]

I don't understand the pessimism, the fact that corporations are now working on HM and trials are being done on humans is huge. If you look at where we were 5 years ago the progess is extraordinary.

The pessimism (and scepticism) is fully justified - I've read posts on other forums going back as far as 1999 saying they were hoping for a 2005 launch. This sh*t will be way too late for many desperate young men.

I wonder how Osteoscreen is coming along.

 

[Optimist]

I don't understand the pessimism, the fact that corporations are now working on HM and trials are being done on humans is huge. If you look at where we were 5 years ago the progess is extraordinary.

The pessimism (and scepticism) is fully justified - I've read posts on other forums going back as far as 1999 saying they were hoping for a 2005 launch. This $#iT will be way too late for many desperate young men.

I wonder how Osteoscreen is coming along.

Saying that because people made faulty predictions in the past means that current predictions are also faulty is a logical fallacy. Anyways, I'm not saying its gonna come out tomorrow, I'm saying that there has been tremendous progress and there is tremendous potential and that should be cause for optimism.

In your research did you notice that in 1999 there were a handful of individual docs testing on mice and now corporations are testing in humans? No progress there? Do you think this sh*t comes about instantaneously or doesn't happen at all?