NEW SAW PALMETTO STUDY SHOWS - INEFFECTIVE

HairlossTalk

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Sorry die hard saw palmetto fans. Further data is showing that its not only ineffective for hair loss, but it had no long term effect on Prostate health either. Surprisingly (???) Finasteride (aka propecia for the newbies), worked great....

A prospective, 1-year trial using saw palmetto versus finasteride in the treatment of category III prostatitis/chronic pelvic pain syndrome.

Kaplan SA, Volpe MA, Telogen Effluvium AE.

Department of Urology, College of Physicians and Surgeons, Columbia University, New York, New York 10032, USA. sk46@columbia.edu

PURPOSE: This study was designed to assess the safety and efficacy of saw palmetto or finasteride in men with category III prostatitis/chronic pelvic pain syndrome (CP/CPPS).

MATERIALS AND METHODS: A prospective, randomized, open label, 1-year study was designed to assess the safety and efficacy of saw palmetto and finasteride in the treatment of men diagnosed with CP/CPPS. Patients were randomized to finasteride (5 mg once daily) or saw palmetto (325 mg daily) for 1 year. Patients were evaluated using the National Institutes of Health Chronic Prostatitis Symptom Index, individual domains (pain, urinary symptoms, quality of life and mean pain score) and the American Urological Association Symptom Score at baseline, 3, 6 and 12 months.

RESULTS: A total of 64 consecutive men 24 to 58 years old (mean age 43.2) with a diagnosis of CP/CPPS were equally randomized to the 2 treatment arms. All 64 men had previously received antibiotics (duration of 3 to 93 weeks), 52 (82%) had been on alpha-blockade. There were 61, 57 and 56 patients evaluable at 3, 6 and 12 months, respectively. At 1 year mean total National Institutes of Health Chronic Prostatitis Symptom Index score decreased from 23.9 to 18.1 in the finasteride group (p <0.003), and from 24.7 to 24.6 in the saw palmetto arm (p = 0.41). In the finasteride arm the quality of life and pain domains were significantly improved at 1 year; however, urination was not. Adverse events included headache (3 cases) in the saw palmetto group and decreased libido (2 cases) in the finasteride group. At the end of the trial 13 of 32 (41%) and 21 of 32 (66%) opted to continue saw palmetto and finasteride, respectively.

CONCLUSIONS: Chronic Prostatitis treated with saw palmetto had no appreciable long-term improvement. In contrast, patients treated with finasteride had significant and durable improvement in all various parameters except voiding. Further studies are warranted to ascertain the mechanism and reproducibility of these effects in a placebo controlled trial.

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Cassin said:
People are always going to believe what they want, no matter what.
That's why we're here. To educate them on the facts. We can all agree to disagree if they acknowledge they don't care about the data. Im fine with that :)

Cassin said:
The National Cancer Institute is doing a study on Vitamin E and Prostate cancer right now. Next time anyone is in Walgreens have a look at the sign posted next to supps about it. I feel soon enough people with be mistakenly glorifying Vit E and SP as a viable male pattern baldness cocktail.
That's what happens when you're the type of person who is only capable of thinking simple thoughts I guess. People who think this way only have the ability to delve into things on the surface level. Any actual understanding of why they may be wrong is met with laziness, or disinterest. For those who are able to think deeper, I'll probably continue to point out the facts.

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HairLossTalk.com,

Well that pretty much blows my argument out the window eh?

since this stuff is pretty much useless, I will not pursue it as an adjunct treatment. I appreciate your information and will pursue a topical antiandrogen route to supplement my proscar and az acid.

With regards to your use of spironolactone and revivo, do have a feeling on which one would most beneficial for helping fine vellous hairs convert to terminal hairs?

Thanks for exposing SP for what it is, and I didnt mean to start too much of a flame war last week, I was just wanted to play devils advocate w/ this stuff since some people just swear by it.....
 

HairlossTalk

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To quote Bryan:

"Oh geez. Who knows?"

Insufficient clinical data to make an accurate assumption I think.

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just to play devils advocate, that study mentions absolutely nothing about hairloss.

with that said, saw palmetto is sh*t.
 

HairlossTalk

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Good point. I still see no studies on saw palmetto and hair loss!

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HairlossTalk said:
Good point. I still see no studies on saw palmetto and hair loss!

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To my knowledge, they can't even get SP to work on cells in a petri dish sufficient to imply it can stop hair loss.

Am I wrong on this one?
 
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