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[Pavi]

Which of the treatments in clinical trials are you guys most excited about and how long do you think we will have to wait to utilize these treatments?

 

[Breyfogle]

1. HISTOGEN - 2018 Awaiting phase 2 trial results

2. SAMUMED - 2018 Phase 2 results avail 3/16

3. KYTHERA\BIMATOPROST\SETI – 2019 A WILD GUESS. BIG MYSTERY.

4. REPLICEL 2021 IN GERMANY. MAYBE 2019 IN JAPAN

5. CB 03 01 - 2021

 

[Pavi]

1. HISTOGEN - 2018 Awaiting phase 2 trial results

2. SAMUMED - 2018 Phase 2 results avail 3/16

3. KYTHERA\BIMATOPROST\SETI – 2019 A WILD GUESS. BIG MYSTERY.

4. REPLICEL 2021 IN GERMANY. MAYBE 2019 IN JAPAN

5. CB 03 01 - 2021

Why samumed so late?

 

[distracted]

1. HISTOGEN - 2018 Awaiting phase 2 trial results

2. SAMUMED - 2018 Phase 2 results avail 3/16

3. KYTHERA\BIMATOPROST\SETI – 2019 A WILD GUESS. BIG MYSTERY.

4. REPLICEL 2021 IN GERMANY. MAYBE 2019 IN JAPAN

5. CB 03 01 - 2021

**** if that's all I'd probably need to use a combination of all those treatments. I don't understand the science of hair loss but the from the reactions of people that do, those do not seem like anything to get excited about.

Histogen - Decent results on the ONE before/after sample
Samumed - Actually pretty hopeful
Seti - Not doing much for me at around ~300mg
Replicel - Can be great or can be ****
CB - Seems good but 2021?! I've read the reason for this is that they are trailing its for acne first (which is bull****) but if it is released as an acne treatment, will it become more accessible as a hair treatment?

And there are also JAK inhibitors from Christiano. Not sure what the consensus is on that. Then you have researches from Tsuji and others, but those are so far away, it's not even worth looking forward to.

Basically, if you're on these forums now and Replicel is not some sort of miracle, our best hope is advancements in hair transplant technology.

 

[Pavi]

**** if that's all I'd probably need to use a combination of all those treatments. I don't understand the science of hair loss but the from the reactions of people that do, those do not seem like anything to get excited about.

Histogen - Decent results on the ONE before/after sample
Samumed - Actually pretty hopeful
Seti - Not doing much for me at around ~300mg
Replicel - Can be great or can be ****
CB - Seems good but 2021?! I've read the reason for this is that they are trailing its for acne first (which is bull****) but if it is released as an acne treatment, will it become more accessible as a hair treatment?

And there are also JAK inhibitors from Christiano. Not sure what the consensus is on that. Then you have researches from Tsuji and others, but those are so far away, it's not even worth looking forward to.

Basically, if you're on these forums now and Replicel is not some sort of miracle, our best hope is advancements in hair transplant technology.

I mean samumed could potentially take us down 2 NWs which would be HUGE

 

[cupido]

what about follicept? will it release in 2016?

 

[resu]

I don't think Follicept worked at all.

 

[Bad_Wolve]

its definetely samumed, if the century cure act gets signed. histogen? lol. their before after pictures are not credible. replicel? no way. we should pray for nothing else than samumed. dont waste your energy for treatments which will never enter the market. cb would be also a cure right now, but it is at least five years away

 

[paleocapa89]

In Samumed we trust!

Yet we haven't seen any hard data of HF change or a picture of the results so far..

but I'm still hopeful.

 

[Bad_Wolve]

yes, definetely. samumed moves so fast forward and they are not hyping their product, like histogen and replicel does.

 

[Thespain]

What is sanumed

 

[nameless]

Because, in all likelihood, they have to run a phase III trial, finalize production/distribution, etc. The trial itself is another year, plus all the planning and such that goes into it. I actually think it would be closer to 2019 since a Phase III probably wouldn't start until the 2nd half of this year (again, this is all assuming they move forward).

I think people are being really optimistic with the 21st century cures act...even if Samumed qualified to skip phase III (which they won't if you read the bill), the act first has to pass, get signed into order and then they'd need to plan/confirm/assemble the specific review processes and teams that would be required to oversee the approvals.

Look at the delays Japan is facing with their comparable bill.

I'm not saying that Samumed is definitely going to try to skip phase 3 because I'm not a fly on their wall so I don't know for sure, but Samumed has done a number of things that indicate they intend to take advantage of the provision to skip phase 3.

I'm getting more and more concerned about their silence. It seems to me that if they had something to brag about they would be doing some bragging. On the other hand, they are a quiet company, although in late November & early December they made a lot of noise in the media so why the silence all of a sudden? Also they said their preliminary results demonstrated "significant" improvement and that sounds like another minoxidil, but that was their preliminary results so the final tally could be better.

 

[wilson2]

Some of those look pretty promising.