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gascoigne

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There is an opinion that its easier (both physicly and mental) for good looking guy (with proper face detalis) to loss his hair since he will still be quite attractive.
Well, that is just not true. If we take a look at all of the aspects, then its obvious why.

1. The mental aspect:
Good looking guys are more vain then average looking guys. That is perfectly normal and natural. They see their good look as a effective tool and thing that puts them above the average. They rely and feel sure about their good look.
When they suffer hair loss, they are lossing that big, important advantage. It cant be same like when average or lower then average guy loss his hair. His looks werent his major weapon it first place! Is its same foor soccer player to have problem with legs, as it should be for oridinary person?

2. The physical aspet:
For an average looking guy hair loss isnt big problem like it is for an excellent looking guys (i guess there is a stigma that they never suffer hairloss )
Why? Couse average looking guy couldnt have excellent girl even in time he was full of hair! Average girls he just to date are not PICKY, at least not so much. So he only have to adjust a little bit.
But very good looking guy is used to sleep with great chiks. And that girl category IS PICKY, very much. So the adjustment he has to make is a lot bigger - he dropped in average category.
 

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Good looking guys who rely purely on their looks to pick-up women will have huge problems with hairloss. These guys rely solely on the confidence buzz they get from girls responding positively to their physical appearance, so when hairloss takes this down a few notches, they have no idea how to cope with it and often end up on here venting and crying.

This is why GAME is so, so important.

90% most men out there either don't have any game or refuse to acknowledge that they need to improve upon it and they blame all their shortcomings with women on other cop-out reasons like baldness, lack of height, lack of good job, etc etc... when their main reasons for failure with women are nearly always in fact, stinking attitude and dull chat with no humour or energy.

Doesn't matter whether your good looking or average, bald or NW1, without any game you're fucked either way, because your simply picking up whatever happens to come along by fluke and not taking control and choosing the women you actually want.
 

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Primo said:
Good looking guys who rely purely on their looks to pick-up women will have huge problems with hairloss. These guys rely solely on the confidence buzz they get from girls responding positively to their physical appearance, so when hairloss takes this down a few notches, they have no idea how to cope with it and often end up on here venting and crying.

This is why GAME is so, so important.

90% most men out there either don't have any game or refuse to acknowledge that they need to improve upon it and they blame all there shortcomings with women on other cop-out reasons like baldness, lack of height, lack of good job, etc etc... when their main reasons for failure with women are nearly always in fact stinking attitude and boring, humourless chat.

Primo, you sounds reasonable.

But, you just dont get the bottom line.

A GREAT LOOKING GUY IS USED TO HAVE GREAT CHIKS. ITS HIS WEEKLY, MONTHLY ROUTINE. HE KNOW THAT HE CAN HAVE GREAT CHIKS AND ITS AMAZING EGO BOOSTER. WHEN HE GOES BALD, HE NO LONGER HAVE GREAT, BUT AVERAGE CHIKS, COUSE GREAT CHIKS ARE PICKY, AVERAGE ONE ARE NOT !!!

No matter how charismatic, funny or likeable you are, HOT GIRLS wont give you a chane to EVEN SHOW that!
 

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Gasoigne,I have seen your picture,you are NOT a great looking guy,although there is one thing great abouy you,your massive EGO. :inlove:
 

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seb said:
Gasoigne,I have seen your picture,you are NOT a great looking guy,although there is one thing great abouy you,your massive EGO. :inlove:

I can accept that opinon, but you should put it up with arguments.
In terms of antic greek arhetipc manhood beauty, what do i lack?
Is it mexican skin look, full lips like i had a silicone, strong fully chin with amazignly thick black beard, dark eyes with thick eyebrovs, amazingli thick Elvis style hair. Nose, eyes, ears in perfect proportion . (I calculated Da Vincis measures about mans face)
 

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If you wasn't going bald,you are the type of person too laugh and ridicule somebody like me who has been fully bald since the age of 24.
Regarding your looks,you have fat cheeks,a weak looking body,and a typical generic mediterranean look. ie greasy looking.
 

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gascoigne said:

Primo, you sounds reasonable.

But, you just dont get the bottom line.

No matter how charismatic, funny or likeable you are, HOT GIRLS wont give you a chane to EVEN SHOW that!

Take it from an average height, average looking guy, HOT GIRLS will give you a chance to show that IF you know how to approach them PROPERLY.

That's a very big IF, because most men simply don't know how to approach an attractive female stranger and completely f*** it up every time. I see it week after week, time and time again, good looking guys often too! It's hilarious to watch!

I personally have no problem approaching hot girls in London clubs and can get them to engage with me for at least a couple of minutes, it's the proceeding chat, that is the hard part. This is where I need to distinguish myself from the 100s of other douches and spark her attraction. This is where game and quality chat comes into play, I'm happy to admit my chat isn't quite there right now and I'm trying to improve it, but my looks certainly aren't holding me back and trust me, if they really mattered so much to these hot girls, I wouldn't be given more than 5 seconds to make an impression.
 

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seb said:
If you wasn't going bald,you are the type of person too laugh and ridicule somebody like me who has been fully bald since the age of 24.
Regarding your looks,you have fat cheeks,a weak looking body,and a typical generic mediterranean look. ie greasy looking.

You are wrong. I am not idiot type of guy who lafs to anyone. I am humble and modest. Things is i LOVED my appereance couse in one month i would even have an offers from guys to bw with them!
You are just not realistic or your standard measurments are wrong.
My cheeks are not fat, they are almost like Elvis cheeks. Its couse of natural stronger and wider chin.
 

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Primo said:
gascoigne said:

Primo, you sounds reasonable.

But, you just dont get the bottom line.

No matter how charismatic, funny or likeable you are, HOT GIRLS wont give you a chane to EVEN SHOW that!

Take it from an average height, average looking guy, HOT GIRLS will give you a chance to show that IF you know how to approach them PROPERLY.

That's a very big IF, because most men simply don't know how to approach an attractive female stranger and completely f*ck it up every time. I see it week after week, time and time again, good looking guys often too! It's hilarious to watch!

I personally have no problem approaching hot girls in London clubs and can get them to engage with me for at least a couple of minutes, it's the proceeding chat, that is the hard part. This is where I need to distinguish myself from the 100s of other douches and spark her attraction. This is where game and quality chat comes into play, I'm happy to admit my chat isn't quite there right now and I'm trying to improve it, but my looks certainly aren't holding me back and trust me, if they really mattered so much to these hot girls, I wouldn't be given more than 5 seconds to make an impression.

That is true, but we are not talking about same thing.
Hot girls are 9-10/10!
Its very natural, great looking girl dont want to low they own stanradrs. Why should they??? I was convinced numerus times.
Mathematic is great science.
Yous said average looking guy- that would be 4-6/10. Numbers dont lie.
Why do you think 9-10/10 girl will give a chance to guy like that ?
 

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Ok old bean I stand corrected,you are one of the worlds most attractive homo sapiens.I only wish too have the same asthetic attributes as you,instead of this big,red,shiny bald bonce. :agree:
 

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seb said:
Ok old bean I stand corrected,you are one of the worlds most attractive homo sapiens.I only wish too have the same asthetic attributes as you,instead of this big,red,shiny bald bonce. :agree:

No need to be ironic. Just be realistic. Are my arguments wrong?
Is thick curly hair plus or minus
Is manhood strong and wide chin plus or minus?
Is full red /silicon like lips plus or minus ?
Is tiny proper nose plus or minus?
Is perfect teeth plus or minus?
 

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Serious question,what are you going too do when you lose all your hair?
 

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seb said:
Serious question,what are you going too do when you lose all your hair?

I dont know Seb.
Its a big problem since i have always used to rely on my look and take it for something sure. I will loose all my confifencd and charming smile will transform in bitter /sad smile.
I dont belive in minoxidil , etc. couse it cant save my front, my crown, and without that, hairstyle have no sence and simetrical face loos its frame.
Hair transplant is not bad but i will have to wait until 35 to make it, and even then it wont give me back my afro density of hair.

May consider body hair transplantation with dr.Umar; using about ( i will have good donor area) 4000 head grafts, 3000 beard grafts, and 5000 body (chest) grafts.
 

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seb said:
I take it you are still in your 20s?.

I am 22 now, pic on avatar is 4 years old.
Now i am starting to have Sampras balding head.
 

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You are still a kid,that is a large reason why you are so vain.At that age its human nature too want too go out and sleep with many women,and have good looks.When you reach my age you will have many other things too think about.
 

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seb said:
You are still a kid,that is a large reason why you are so vain.At that age its human nature too want too go out and sleep with many women,and have good looks.When you reach my age you will have many other things too think about.

But my father was vain until his 40 ?!
He dint allowed ANYONE to TOUCH his hair couse he tought that there can be some bacteries on human hand that could lead to his hair loss.
I know we both are little bit cases for medicin examination, but, we had an argument for our vanity.
 

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I know we all have faults,but being this vain is not healthy and will slowly eat you.You need too focus on something other than the folicules on your head.
 

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seb said:
I know we all have faults,but being this vain is not healthy and will slowly eat you.You need too focus on something other than the folicules on your head.

Seb, thank you for you conversation. You may consider my as idioticyl, vain, "i-am-the-best" , cruel guy. But i am not. I am gratefull for your post, they helped me.
Just was little bit sad when you wrote ironicly about my apperance, when there is a clear fact that they are one-hand-picked guys on this forum with my looks before hair loss.
 

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That is true, but we are not talking about same thing.
Hot girls are 9-10/10!
Its very natural, great looking girl dont want to low they own stanradrs. Why should they??? I was convinced numerus times.
Mathematic is great science.
Yous said average looking guy- that would be 4-6/10. Numbers dont lie.
Why do you think 9-10/10 girl will give a chance to guy like that ?[/quote]
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It's very natural, men only look for physical attractiveness in women, women however look for a number of different attractive traits in men, not simply good looks, this is where they can be exploited with good game and yes I'm talking about 9 and 10/10s not simply 6 and 7s. :shakehead: Maybe you've never had experience chatting to the former.

Girls will give a chance to any guy who can humour them and make them experience a range of different human emotions i.e. through good chat, but they will see straight through any guy who simply wants to sex them up and has no good chat it's called women's intuition.

Also, what kind of Greek man calls himself Gascoigne??? Are you even aware who Gascoigne is? It's not suprising people think you're a troll!

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