Propecia and Dr. Lee

[Redbone]

On his website minoxidil.com Dr. Lee specificaly states that he does not advise new patients to go on Propecia, he proposes a topical approach. He also states that those currently using Propecia and having good results with no sides should stick with it. I found this surprising as I was thinking of starting Propecia nex month. If you navigate his website he seems to be moving further away from propecia and won't even perscribe it anymore unless you visit him at his office in Cali. The June 03 medical journal update really seems to have swayed his opinion.

 

[Cassin]

............ The June 03 medical journal update really seems to have swayed his opinion.

As well as the money he rakes in from the Topicals.

 

[Axon]

I'm going to have to agree with Cassin on this one. Lee has been moving away from prescribing Finasteride for some time now and it seems directly linked to his topical sales.

I love Lee's topicals, but he has some poor recommendations on his site.
You see how he lists spironolactone and AA like they're the end-all, be-all? He acts like he actually has the cure. Frankly, he does not.

Even a guy like Lee is not immune to pushing his products over others...

 

[dmeister]

The June 03 medical journal update really seems to have swayed his opinion.

What was in the June 03 medical journal that would have swayed his opinion?

 

[Redbone]

The prostate cancer report in conjunction with Fina.

He also states that Propecia does not lower DHT at the follicle significantly enough to do much good. Read for yourself at Monoxidil.com go to Propecia.

 

[drinkrum]

Lee's a business man.

spironolactone has not even been proven in clinical studies to really do anything worthwhile if it's not applied every few hours. And the fact that Lee keeps purporting that it's amazing is simply bullshit.

D.

 

[Cassin]

He also states that Propecia does not lower DHT at the follicle significantly enough to do much good. Read for yourself at Monoxidil.com go to Propecia.

Thats funny because it sure as hell is working incredible on me and a lot of other people, even though it doesn’t seem so by some of the posts here. I have read his report on Finasteride. That page makes a heavy push for topical. Sometimes I feel Dr Lee has been grated Saint Hood on these type of sites.

Yes he helps people with male pattern baldness more than 99.99% of the doctors out there, yes answers our little emails, but bottom line he is a salesman. Think he would answer emails and write articles if he felt it couldn't lead him making more money? If any type of FDA info can be slanted towards him making more cash, he will slant it that way.

 

[Redbone]

I honestly believe that fina works or I would have heard more about it in my circle of friends and peers at the gym work etc... Hell I heard allot more about Ephedra and its bad effects than I did about Propecia.

To come to this site and read though would make you think it is the most controversial drug in existance. Ruined guys sex lives, did not grow hair, made hair fall out etc...

I honestly believe the 90% that it does work for you never here anything about, they just keep there hair on go on there merry way.

Is there anybody here who thinks I should not start Propecia? I am 34yrs and a Norwood 1.5

These doctors are all alike Lewenberg kept telling me, "you don't need anything else but the formula." It took about 50 emails before he finally conceded and said I could add Fina or Avodart.


At first he was like "Yes you could take them but they carry serious sexual side effects, just use more of the formula for the same desired result." I want to get off his sh*t because it is way to expensive but I am affraid my baldness will increase. I want to switch to Xandrox 5% and Fina for a savings of $100/mo and perhaps better results. Please help...

 

[dmeister]

I wouldn't worry about sexual side-effects with Propecia. That was obviously one of the things they kept track of during the clinical trials with thousands of men. Propecia had only a small increase in sexual dysfunction compared to the placebo, and those side-effects went away after discontinuing the drug. So you really have nothing to lose. Now, whether or not it actually accelerates the hairloss with some users is another story...

 

[Cassin]

Perhaps just go for .5mg of finasteride to start of with Redbone.

But that would be to tough to cut proscar into 10ths.

I would get on Propecia and cut that into half. Or maybe 4ths. 66% of people have success with .25mg of finasteride according to the FDA trials.

 

[dmeister]

66% of people have success with .25mg of finasteride according to the FDA trials.

Yes, but a lot of them wouldn't have lost their hair anyway according to those trials, which means that the dose provided only marginal benefit.

 

[Bryan]

These doctors are all alike Lewenberg kept telling me, "you don't need anything else but the formula." It took about 50 emails before he finally conceded and said I could add Fina or Avodart.

At first he was like "Yes you could take them but they carry serious sexual side effects, just use more of the formula for the same desired result." I want to get off his sh*t because it is way to expensive but I am affraid my baldness will increase. I want to switch to Xandrox 5% and Fina for a savings of $100/mo and perhaps better results. Please help...

For God's sake, you don't have to pay through the nose for Lewenberg's stuff. Just get some cheap generic topical minoxidil from a drugstore. Hell, even name-brand Rogaine would be cheaper. If you also want the Retin-A, just order a tube or two from a place like hair2go.

Bryan

 

[Axon]

Red,

You seem like a stable guy. As much as some of the posters here might hate to admit it, the side effects reported in the majority of cases are exaggerated. People notice things about themselves that they don't like and they need to point the finger.

Are some of the effects real? Of course. But that doesn't mean that the mega "sheds" we hear about are entirely true. Bomb (no offense dude) said he was losing his hair at alarming rates, but the photos he posted showed either stability or improvement. HairLossTalk.com (again, no offense) has mentioned his massive shed, yet his pics show an excellent head of hair that couldn't of possibly been THAT much worse. I doubt HairLossTalk.com dropped to a Norwood 5 before he recovered to the hair he's got now. Almost everyone, at one point, claims that they've lost 80% of their density. It's the nature of the beast. The only person I've seen that has a reason to b**ch is Gunner.

Further, panic is a powerful, powerful thing. Once that sh*t sets in you cannot take a man's comments to heart. This May I was losing results due to my course of Accutane, and I was plotting all kinds of bizarre things to do to keep my hair. Zix treatments, topical DHT inhibitors, lower Accutane doses...I was consumed by my own fears. Consumed. It was on my mind every waking moment. Not exactly an objective opinion, you know?

In the end, don't let the talking heads sway you from what you know you need to do. The clinical trials should be your bible, and I think you should try Fina for a couple months.

 

[Grantspots]

Axon - good post and good advice....

jerry grant