pulled this from hairlosshelp. ( here HairLossTalk.com) scam?

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http://www.mhlsusa.com/the_bald_truth/
here they use some drug that when taken orally binds itself to the receptor at the hair folicle without supressing DHt and acts as a antiandrogen, but it uses sereona repens which from crinagen description is saw palmetto extract, now it also use a valisadotor i.e like minoxdl but taken orally, i dunno that soundd scary.

rthey have some good after/before pics, but they way they talk about seems to be the way HairLossTalk.com talked about in the truht about saw palmetto

disclaimer I am assuming you wrote the article HairLossTalk.com, sorry if i am wrong

http://www.hairlosstalk.com/newsletter/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=230
 

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Please read up on Serenoa Repins (Saw Palmetto) as a hair loss treatment in this article we just released:

http://www.hairlosstalk.com/newsletter/ ... le&sid=230

We are going to be releasing an article written by Dr. Marty Sawaya on the merits of Beta Sisterol and other various herbs and their effects on hair loss in the March newsletter. Make sure you are subscribed so you don't miss it:

http://www.hairlosstalk.com/members

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uh "no single shred of evidence...."

why dont you respond to the study over at hairloss-research.org (under updates) regarding SP's use for hairloss?

It appears there is more than a shred....
 

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This, once again, over and over we run into people who quote this study... this study was the study publicly labeled as "BUNK" on 20/20 in January 2003 as being a totally improperly run study funded by Geno Marovici, owner of a saw palmetto hair loss treatment product. This study is mentioned in our article on Saw Palmetto <--- click those words. Its not a legit study. It only included 10 people for a period of something like 4 months. Insufficient test group, Insufficient test period, run by a biased party who could have misconstrued any or all of the data, and it was not even published in a recognized dermatological journal. Sorry.

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wheree the study on Revivogen?

You miss the point (perhaps on purpose?) that there ARE studies that support the use of certain fatty acids in controlling DHT production in the scalp. There are no such studies for SP that I am aware of.

If so, please cite them.

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Alright I guess we are to have to agreeto disagree. I just havent seen anything more substantial for the effectiveness of Revivo over oral SP.

I gotta go back to work....

Later
 

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ColtsFan said:
wheree the study on Revivogen?

Here you go..........

Y-Linolenic & Fatty Acid inhibitors of 5AR (DHT)
http://www.hairlosstalk.com/download/study1.pdf

Aliphatic Unsaturated Fatty Acid 5AR (DHT) Inhibition
http://www.hairlosstalk.com/download/study4.pdf

Aliphatic Fatty Acid 5AR (DHT) Inhibition (Study II)
http://www.hairlosstalk.com/download/study6.pdf

While you're at it, please read this article:
http://www.hairlosstalk.com/productrevi ... icle01.htm

And this article:
http://www.hairlosstalk.com/productrevi ... icle02.htm

And this article where our users interviewed the makers of Revivogen:
http://www.hairlosstalk.com/productrevi ... erview.htm

FYI, as I have always said, Saw Palmetto applied topically has more potential for results than when taken orally. The reason why, again, is not up to my own personal opinion. Its because studies done on orally ingested saw palmetto did not show sufficient serum DHT reduction. However, if it can be applied topically (and again, this is total conjecture, but at least a far more intelligent bit of conjecture!) there is a chance its local effects may be beneficial. Thus its inclusion in Revivogen.

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ColtsFan said:
I just havent seen anything more substantial for the effectiveness of Revivo over oral SP.
Can you show us where you've seen anything whatsoever (substantial or otherwise) as far as clinical data that Saw Palmetto will work? Apparently you're holding Revivogen's efficacy up next to some pretty convincing clinical data on Saw Palmetto. I anxiously await this data you're comparing Revivogen to.

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