Quitting Propecia

jeff2007

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I have been taking Propecia for 7 years. It has been completely effective for me, and although I haven't experienced drastic side effects, I am becoming increasingly uneasy about taking it.
My question is, has anybody quit taking this, and switched effectively to another treatment, like Rogain?
 

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minoxidil and finasteride work two different ways, so i doubt rogaine would be able to maintain the hair you grew while on propecia. I cannot understand why you would become uneasy after 7 years on the product. If you have not encountered an serious problems now, they are highly doubtful for the future. If you want you can take .5mg of propecia a day, which is 80% as effective as a 1mg. Less amount of the drug, means less chance of side effects.
 

Londo

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What makes you uneasy about Propecia? I started 6 months ago.
 

RaginDemon

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have you tried to cut the dosage?
 

Packers

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I would cut the dosage instead of completely getting rid of it. There's a lot of people here taking only.5mg or less per day.
 
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4.9. Ãœberdosierung
Patienten, die Einzeldosen von bis zu 400 mg Finasterid bzw. wiederholt Dosen von bis zu 80
mg täglich über 3 Monate einnahmen, entwickelten keine Nebenwirkungen.


dingdong
thats a lie or??
400mg and no side effects :freaked:

Timi
 

ginger-uk

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I'm confused on dosage, some take 0.2mg some take the whole tablet, whats the score here?
 

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ginger-uk said:
I'm confused on dosage, some take 0.2mg some take the whole tablet, whats the score here?

People take different dosages because they want to minimise the potential for side effects or save money. 0.2mg/day produced a statistically significant increase in hair count in Merck's trials, but the best results were seen at doses of 1mg/day and upwards. I don't think that there's much difference between 1mg/day (Propecia) and 5mg/day (Proscar) over the long term. They inhibit very similar proportions of DHT. The more DHT from the 5AR2 enzyme you knock out, the better results you'll get. That's why dutasteride is more effective than finasteride. But that's another story.

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bubka

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the hair regrown by finasteride are different than those grown by minoxidil, you will lose what you regrew and or maintained with finasteride
 

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ginger-uk said:
If I continue to use both I won't loose anything though? Surely?

I think it generally depends on many things. In the long run, you will lose the war being on propecia and rogaine only. Rogaine does not suppress DHT. It may regrow your hair. Propecia may not regrow your hair, stop your hair loss, nor halt it. Some people may see years of maintenance with Propecia, but this doesn't mean they'll maintain it indefinitely.
 

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ginger-uk said:
So the reality is that nothing really works, it just slow down the inevitable...
no, dht inhobitors such as finasteride and dutasteride work great, for a majority of men
 

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ginger-uk said:
So the reality is that nothing really works, it just slow down the inevitable...

Yes the products work pretty well the problem is that people often expect too much out of them. Like for example, expecting to become a NW1 when you already progressed to a NW3.
 

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ginger-uk said:
So the reality is that nothing really works, it just slow down the inevitable...

AFAIK, there's nothing that inhibits DHT 100% of the time. OTOH, you may inhibit the DHT to a point where it barely affects your hair and you may keep your current hair for a long time, but as you pointed out, with the current drugs, it's very difficult to avoid the inevitable. I don't think drugs are really strictly cumulative on their effectiveness (i.e., stacking the drugs to inhibit DHT), but if you stack enough, you MAY eventually near 100%. People usually try this by using different drugs, and it's probably some elliptical curve for effectiveness (like most drugs.) Bryan, Doctor, michael may have some input on this.

However, the hair loss you currently have may be your final stage, but there's no fool proof way to judge what norwood you'll eventually become, but you can do an educated guess by looking your family history and getting your scalp mapped for miniaturization. Thus, you may not even need to take Propecia. However, neither of these are a guarantee diagnosis.
 

ginger-uk

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I'm going to to give finasteride a go I think Just got to choose between Procar 5mg and Gen finasteride 1mg.

Looked through my family and the only men to be affected by this are my grand parents, but they are 80 and 90 respectively. They only started to thin above the age of 65. My Dad has all his hair, but it is finer than it used to be. He is 60. My younger brother is 25 and he has a perfect hairline, git!
 

ginger-uk

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Well I'll get some proscar ordered then and see how I go for 6 months. If I start lifting like a boy down the gym and start crying like a girl, whilst walking round with a limp dick I might have to reconsider. :hairy:
 

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Hi, Bud:

Where did you find the chat?

Pondle said:
ginger-uk said:
I'm confused on dosage, some take 0.2mg some take the whole tablet, whats the score here?

People take different dosages because they want to minimise the potential for side effects or save money. 0.2mg/day produced a statistically significant increase in hair count in Merck's trials, but the best results were seen at doses of 1mg/day and upwards. I don't think that there's much difference between 1mg/day (Propecia) and 5mg/day (Proscar) over the long term. They inhibit very similar proportions of DHT. The more DHT from the 5AR2 enzyme you knock out, the better results you'll get. That's why dutasteride is more effective than finasteride. But that's another story.

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air_canton said:
Hi, Bud:

Where did you find the chat?

Pondle said:
[quote="ginger-uk":6d50f]I'm confused on dosage, some take 0.2mg some take the whole tablet, whats the score here?

People take different dosages because they want to minimise the potential for side effects or save money. 0.2mg/day produced a statistically significant increase in hair count in Merck's trials, but the best results were seen at doses of 1mg/day and upwards. I don't think that there's much difference between 1mg/day (Propecia) and 5mg/day (Proscar) over the long term. They inhibit very similar proportions of DHT. The more DHT from the 5AR2 enzyme you knock out, the better results you'll get. That's why dutasteride is more effective than finasteride. But that's another story.

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[/quote:6d50f]

I drew it from the Merck dose ranging study.
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