Reading Books: Another casuality of the red pill

[CaptainForehead]

I used to read crime/drama/sf when I was a kid. I recently made a decision to go back to reading more books and develop my brain more.
This book that I'm reading (Jack Reacher). The (tall - 6'4) dude goes into a town. The pretty receptionist at the police station smiles at him, makes it clear she has a thing for him. Of course he sleeps with her pretty soon. It feels like a dagger in my chest - such a thing is never going to happen to me. There is a voice in my head pointing at me and going "ha ha".

There is similar fantasy on television, but there at least I can shut off my brain.

In addition: I found out Mike Tyson was bullied as a teenager because of his voice.

 

[Isaac Newton]

Wasn't the main character of that book played by Tom Cruise in the movie? Quite hilarious considering he's 5"7' .

I know what you mean, I felt the same while watching Californication. The guy gets like a one night stand everyday.

Hank Moody does nothing special to sleep with the girl, the guy has like the luckiest sex life ever.

Of course, no one has a life like that, don't forget you're reading fiction. No man is attracting tons of women like that, it's just impossible.

Even if the sluthate guys like to believe this fantasy, that there is this 6"4' hot NW1 stud who can get any woman he wants.

The reality is that even the hottest guy will still be rejected by at least 85% of the women out there.

The PUA Paul Janka was proof of that. Despite being tall, good-looking, well-dressed etc. His success rate still plateaued at 10%.

One night stands happen way less often and to way less men than the mainstream media and pop culture want you to believe.

Hollywood and the media cater to women and it's quite clear. For women, only the top 20% of men are worthy of having sex with.

Therefore, women (and by extension, the media) think that all men can easily get sex. The fact that 80% of men out there struggle to get sex never crosses their mind.

I've spoken with a lot of women about this, and they really think we're on par with them when it comes to opportunities to get casual sex.

They think that men get hundreds of messages and propositions on dating websites too. The level of solipsism of the modern woman is quite amazing.

All that to say that you shouldn't feel bad for not having that kind of situation happening to you. They happen very rarely, even for good looking men.

guess what study i read the other day? http://lesswrong.com/lw/h4e/differential_reproduction_for_men_and_women/

"They concluded that among the ancestors of today’s human population, women outnumbered men about two to one. Two to one! In percentage terms, then, humanity’s ancestors were about 67% female and 33% male".

basically thats 67% of guys not getting laid lol. important to remember though that we are just starting to gather more and more genetic studies of this kind (says so on the page) so take it with a grain of salt. that is the current estimate.

also to captain-i read a study that mentions exactly what you were talking about with watching movies/shows. the fact that your logic kind of "powers down"

"the prefrontal cortex, an area associated with logic, deliberative analysis, and self-awareness. (It carries a hefty computational burden.) Subsequent work by Malach and colleagues has found that, when we’re engaged in intense “sensorimotor processing” – and nothing is more intense than staring at a massive screen with Dolby surround sound – we actually inhibit these prefrontal areas. "

 

[CaptainForehead]

Wasn't the main character of that book played by Tom Cruise in the movie? Quite hilarious considering he's 5"7' .

There are a bunch of books on that character, and yes the Cruise movie was based on one of his books. It threw me off initially when reading the book, the passages made it appear he was tall, but Cruise is short. So I was like "this doesn't make sense".
I saw an interview with Cruise where he was talking about this character, and the various books, and it seemed interesting. The books are also rated high on amazon.

I've spoken with a lot of women about this, and they really think we're on par with them when it comes to opportunities to get casual sex.

They think that men get hundreds of messages and propositions on dating websites too. The level of solipsism of the modern woman is quite amazing.

They think that? Wow.

 

[g.i joey]

Of course, no one has a life like that, don't forget you're reading fiction. No man is attracting tons of women like that, it's just impossible.

The reality is that even the hottest guy will still be rejected by at least 85% of the women out there.

there are men who literally could have a woman to sleep with every night if they wanted to. For example, one of my closest friends i grew up with, he is pretty aesthetic ( 5'9, blonde hair, blue eyes and very cut physique) and bodybuilds alot. I kid you not this guy has a steady long term girlfriend and yet everytime i see him he either has new pictures of girls he gets with, or is showing me conversations of girls he is about to get with, granted he has been rejected quite often but nowhere near close to 85%. He's been having affairs with a couple of the milfs we have at our gym (he works the morning shift there). some of the stories i hear that he tells me are unbelievable and sometimes i need further confirmation from someone that was there just to believe it! but overall id say 80% of what he focuses on is his looks, and imo that isnt too great because in thorough conversations he struggles, but he charms woman like its his job.

 

[CaptainForehead]

@Isaac: I'm not being allowed reps, but that is a repworthy post!

 

[g.i joey]

to someone who picks up a serious amount of woman rejection is nothing. its a whole mindset to it, chances are you will probably never see that person again, its either you approach and take a chance of getting her or just dont approach and never know. When we were under age there was a club that would always let my group of friends in, all we did was get drunk, hit the dance floor and try to dance with every girl we wanted, we were all getting rejected, majority of us (including me) more than we picked up, but we were also all picking up chicks. that same friend i wrote about was the only one who actually consistently brought girls home to his house every weekend. some guys get looked at as boy toys, but those guys tend to find it harder to get into a serious relationship and remain loyal.

 

[g.i joey]

yup, i hate it too, besides school i never cold approach girls in normal environments due to fear of rejection. I tend to be on my game most when im drunk or completely sober, but the thing is 50% of the time when i see people im usually blunted and my social skills just arent on point when i smoke.

well i mean, if the guy has been rejecting hundreds of times with a 0% success rate that would hurt like a b**ch. But being rejected while knowing you could get other girls doesnt hit as hard.

but ya i hate being rejected, to the point where i could make it ruin my night. just due to the fact that the girl gets the benefit of rejecting me, makes me feel like i lost a battle lol.

 

[shookwun]

Most men have casual sex, but for most it's a rat race of failure. More effort to reward ratio is the reality for almost all men.

For those that don't have sex. Trust me it's a very small percentage and minority.

Unless you have perfect hair, facial aesthetics and body of a adonis then you're average. Everyone over rates themselves. ... trust me almost every man is average. Which isn't a bad thing considerng we are so used to seeing average pepole it can be considered attractive. Their are extremes of both hot and ugly, bUT almost all men are in between.


As for online dating... it's crap! Man up, ask women out in real life. Your self esteem, ego and results will thank you! Most men are to pussy to ask chicks out in real life.

 

[CaptainForehead]

Man up, ask women out in real life. Your self esteem, ego and results will thank you!

With a soft baby face NW7, and a voice like Mike Tyson's?

 

[shookwun]

Just look like this at 19

 

[shookwun]

Agreed.

Trail and error on your own doing. Not basing outcomes on others.

 

[hairyhenry]

read camus.

 

[scorpiolove]

To the OP, Mike Tyson is the youngest heavyweight boxing champion ever, it was his inner self at the time that made him so freakishly powerful in the ring,there's nobody till this day who is as powerful as a puncher as Mike Tyson in his prime. In my experience, sometimes it takes pain to create change.
The world was created on problems,that's why we have doctors, scientists,psychiatrists etc. Your difference from others can either make you or break you, peoples handicaps are a solution in their own right, many people are employed by helping the handicapped. We all have our handicaps, I once knew this guy in a wheelchair who frequented bars and the streets because he wanted to get laid by the ladies, he got prostitutes sometimes, hey you might laugh, but it was a solution to his problem none the less. People who work full time lack the ability to build a house so they hire people to build one for them, the person that owns a car cant fix their car problems so they take it to an auto mechanic. We own computers we cant fix, the worlds ironic that we own things we cant repair ourselves, but nowadays theirs always an easy solution to our problems.

 

[xetudor]

My bestfriend told that the last women that aproached him on facebook started sucking on his dick moments aftering entering the hotel door. I have known this guy my entire life, he doesn't lie about stuff like this. Too bad he was impotent and couldn't do much.

I always thought this kind of stuff happens only in p**rn movies. Maybe I just had bad luck with prude girlfriends. One started a rumour in high school that I was a pervert for touching her breasts (which I did but she was my girlfriend at that time).

 

[EvilLocks]

Of course, no one has a life like that, don't forget you're reading fiction. No man is attracting tons of women like that, it's just impossible.

Dan Bilzerian.

 

[JTS]

Dan Bilzerian.

A 125ft yacht is the ultimate aphrodisiac.

 

[xetudor]

Who's that guy? He looks super sleazy surrounded by all those prostitutes.

 

[blackg]

Wasn't the main character of that book played by Tom Cruise in the movie? Quite hilarious considering he's 5"7' .

I know what you mean, I felt the same while watching Californication. The guy gets like a one night stand everyday.

Hank Moody does nothing special to sleep with the girl, the guy has like the luckiest sex life ever.

Of course, no one has a life like that, don't forget you're reading fiction. No man is attracting tons of women like that, it's just impossible.

Even if the sluthate guys like to believe this fantasy, that there is this 6"4' hot NW1 stud who can get any woman he wants.

The reality is that even the hottest guy will still be rejected by at least 85% of the women out there.

The PUA Paul Janka was proof of that. Despite being tall, good-looking, well-dressed etc. His success rate still plateaued at 10%.

One night stands happen way less often and to way less men than the mainstream media and pop culture want you to believe.

Hollywood and the media cater to women and it's quite clear. For women, only the top 20% of men are worthy of having sex with.

Therefore, women (and by extension, the media) think that all men can easily get sex. The fact that 80% of men out there struggle to get sex never crosses their mind.

I've spoken with a lot of women about this, and they really think we're on par with them when it comes to opportunities to get casual sex.

They think that men get hundreds of messages and propositions on dating websites too. The level of solipsism of the modern woman is quite amazing.

All that to say that you shouldn't feel bad for not having that kind of situation happening to you. They happen very rarely, even for good looking men.

True True True!!! Pop culture has bread this western myth that everyone is having a great sex life.

It ain't true. But it sells a hell of a lot a books, songs and movies.

Even very good looking people are not having regular "exciting " sexual encounters.
If they are having regular sex it's usually with the same long term partner.
Which can get a bit bland after a while.

 

[JTS]

Yeah they're paid to be there. Let him try to get a different girl everyday without paying them like prostitutes and see how well he does.

Pretty much, although the payment in question can range from actual material goods to status. That said, good for him, I'm not hating. However, I do hate the fact that he's a known woman beater and an entitled prick.

 

[2bald2young]

Some kind of rejections are really terrible. When a girl you find attractive first shows interest but later on rejects you because she finds out you have a female voice or/and a lot of bodyhair etc makes you want to jump off a cliff. If that happens more than once you actually consider doing it for real. Going from overjoy because the girl you like liked you back to being rejected so painfully is really hard to go trough. Especially when it happens more than once.