Reduced libio and puffy chest

[Jack A]

I'm only on 0.25mg finasteride every 3 days but everyone has different tolerances to it. Been on it for one and a half months and my hair looks amazing, although my libido is low, erections are weaker and I also have puffy nipples.

I'm thinking of an aromatase inhibitor but not at a ridiculous price, can anyone recommend any/share experiences with them and what doses are appropriate? Thanks.

I really, really, really don't want to quit finasteride, it is worth trying everything I can to make it work.

 

[Fanjeera]

Your erections can't get better anymore. Finasteride induces changes in the penile histology. The only way not to make them even weaker is to quit the drug.

 

[Jack A]

Your erections can't get better anymore. Finasteride induces changes in the penile histology. The only way not to make them even weaker is to quit the drug.

Well sometimes they are completely back to normal so I don't think your claim that they can't get better anymore is true.

 

[RebelHair]

I used for 2 years.
Yes they do lower the erection quality and quantity. They also mess up the semen.

 

[Jack A]

I used for 2 years.
Yes they do lower the erection quality and quantity. They also mess up the semen.

I'm taking 60mg Zinc per day now and morning erections are back, plus i'm having no problems when i'm with my girlfriend it's just like normal, my hair looks great too. Just one problem, ****ing GYNO, i'm really starting to develop lumps and an extra layer of fat that hurts sometimes.

Can anyone offer any of their knowledge on Aromatase inhibitors please? looking at them all n the prices are overwhelming as well as reports that they lead to cancer, but if I were to lower estrogen back to being balanced with testosterone then it should be ok right?

 

[LawOfThelema]

It's pseudogynecomastia/gynecomastia. It could resolve itself or it could worsen. Same occurring with me using 0.5 mg dutasteride every third day.

It seems your options are

(i)wait longer see if resolves on own
(ii)use a selective estrogen receptor antagonist and OR an aromatase inhibitor without the monitoring of a medical doctor
(iii)seek the medical advice of an endocrinologist and see what they prescribe. my guess is this would be best doctor to determine if your issue is actually gynecomastia, and what its prognosis would be while using a drug like finaseride. they would probably order blood tests before doing anything further.


it was suggested to me by someone who seems to know more about medicine than i do to use letrazole and raloxifine. idk which is the aromatase inhibitor or the SERM off hand but he recommended to use the SERM for 2 day, and the AI for a few days at 120 mg then at 60 until the issue resolves then gradually taper off. if the gyno returns after has resolved after you stopped the estrogen modulating drugs then you may have to think about abandoning finasteride, or coping with gyno and using finasteride, or using a topical antiandrogen instead of an oral. i do not know what medical credentials this individual holds, so do not construe this as medical advice. i think the best bet would be to seek an endocrinologist. this is their area of study.

 

[Jack A]

LawOfThelma, do you not think its wise to be on an aromatase inhibitor permanently? I am on 0.25mg finasteride every 3 days and have just bought some Arimidex, so I was thinking I could lower oestrogen levels with a low dose of arimidex whilst being on finasteride?


PS. I strongly believe it's gyno, feeling small tiny lumps everywhere that hurt to touch and nipples are very perky.

 

[LawOfThelema]

It would be irresponsible for me to give an opinion on a medical issue like this. Endocrinologist can look at your hormone profile. They could likely give a prognosis for whether gyno could get worse, would remain the same etc.

Do I think it is wise to use multiple hormone altering drugs without the supervision of a medical doctor? Absolutely not!

 

[Quadzilla99]

A certain level of estrogen is important even for healthy males. Decreased estrogen also leads to sore joints and increased chance for injury

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/30060.php
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/214741-ais-dry-joints.html

 

[Jack A]

LawOfThelma, I will monitor with blood tests and take everything onboard what the doctor says but i've been there before and he just sits there with perfect hair telling me to get off what i'm on, easy for him to say...

Quadzilla, considering I was looking at how other AI's such as nolvadex may cause cancer, joint pain don't seem too bad!

But cheers for the help guys, I aim to get rid of my small gyno case now and then continue finasteride and arimixex both on a very low dose. I'll keep it posted how I get on.

 

[LawOfThelema]

All AIs can potentially cause joint pain. You have to tune the dose very carefully. I don't like the idea of using an AI. Once you start lowing your estrogen you can **** up your serum lipids and you start increasing your cardiovascular risks. A clear relation between circulating estradiol and cardiovascular disease has been observed in men. Men with less estradiol experience more cardivascular disease. I will use only until the gyno reduces or ceases, then I'll drop it. But then, I am probably switching away from internal anyhow. I had pseudo gyno as a teen and still have baseline puffier/bigger than the average male nips. Probably just very sensitive to changes in estrogen.