Retin-A Micronized Gel Thicken Up Scalp!

[bags]

Many hair loss sufferers around the internet have mentioned using Retin-A in minoxidil as an a efficacious Booster....

Retin-A on its own its great at boosting collagen production and thickening skin.

As I have very thin Hair Skin and Nails thanks to my great genetics, I plan on using it on my Face and Scalp, as well as my arms and other thin areas to prevent strech marks from weight lifting....

What is the benefit to hair loss you ask? Well, as a diffuse thinner whose hair line is fully intact; and someone whose scalp is so thin I am able to feel the effects of topical castor oil in his stomach; I am assuming that alot of my thinning has to do with having a scalp that has thinned out due to DHT; and there fore makes it easier for DHT to attack the follicles...

I have noticed the skin in areas with higher androgen receptors is thinner than other areas.... Inner thighs / *** / Gooch, Pelvis, Armpits, Arms etc... basically where there are pubic hairs as well as the areas around them!!!

There have been many stuides showing Fat Injections and Botox showing efficacy on male pattern baldness..... I figure Retin-A MG is a cheap effective way to start to thicken up the scalp and boost collagen production to created a thicker more protective environment for the follicles.... also... if you were to apply topicals in 6-12 months then there is much less chance of systemic absorbtion with a thicker scalp!! WIn-Win...

New protocol is: Microneedling, Glucosamine MSM cream, Retin-A MG, and Oral Castor Oil... hopefully SM04554 will be out mid next year!! Might add in topical Fina once scalp thickens up in 6/12 months.

 

[mj9]

Any success with retin-a?

 

[bluecyclone]

‘Gooch’ haha

any thoughts in just topical retin a?

 

[biohacker1]

I use it for my dupa among other things, it works super well when combined with estriol.
I have formulated an hypothesis on why that might be the case.
TLDR : it has to do with the fact that tretinoin inhibits PGD2 production, thickens the skin (good for the hairs) and enhances degradation of androgen receptors.

 

[-Synergy-]

So retinoic acid/tretinoin is the real deal? Might have been seeing results when I was using an expensive minoxidil with retin a in it. Mixing retinol from The Ordinary with regular squalane to 0.025% and lightly gonna start applying after Kirkland foam.

Expensive but good:

Formula YH By Dr. Halaas - Dr. Yael Halaas MD FACS

This prescription hair loss serum was developed by an NYC facial plastic surgeon and hair transplant surgery specialist. Stop balding and regrow your hair!

www.drhalaas.com

What I switched to to save $:

Advanced Trichology PM Formula - 5% Minoxidil with Retinoic Acid

Advanced Trichology PM Formula Topical Scalp Serum with 5% Minoxidil and Retinoic Acid (Propylene glycol free) 50mls The Advanced Trichology PM Formula is the next generation of the Advanced Trichology Scalp Serums.

www.advancedtrichology.com

 

[biohacker1]

retin-a = tretinoin = what you need

 

[DarkHairHair]

I use it for my dupa among other things, it works super well when combined with estriol.
I have formulated an hypothesis on why that might be the case.
TLDR : it has to do with the fact that tretinoin inhibits PGD2 production, thickens the skin (good for the hairs) and enhances degradation of androgen receptors.

Hi man , you have DUPA like me ?
It interests me a little bit to know your experience because we are very few men to suffer from DUPA.
I tried finasteride and dutasteride but it didn't work for me and apparently it doesn't work for DUPA. Did your current estriol + retinal treatment work on DUPA? I have never seen anyone recover from this baldness.

 

[biohacker1]

Yes, dupa/retrograde alopecia.
I don't have any other hairloss.
finasteride worked for me, helped me recover most of the hairs, and calmed sebbhoreic dermatitis (probably made the dupa worse).
Estriol + tretinoin def helps, but there are still hairs that arent growing properly.

 

[jamesbooker1975]

Nowaday asking " any success with retin-a " is like asking " any success with finasteride ? "

 

[DarkHairHair]

Yes, dupa/retrograde alopecia.
I don't have any other hairloss.
finasteride worked for me, helped me recover most of the hairs, and calmed sebbhoreic dermatitis (probably made the dupa worse).
Estriol + tretinoin def helps, but there are still hairs that arent growing properly.

You take finasteride since when ?

You are lucky because i am on fina since 5 month and it did nothing against my dupa hair loss

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

I am wondering about using this since it is cheap and easy to get. I am currently using regular retin-A bought from Thailand in the metal tubes. Anyone have any thoughts on whether this is close enough as a retinol?

https://www.amazon.com/Differin-Adapalene-Treatment-60-day-supply/dp/B07HKVBRCF/ref=sr_1_17_sspa?dchild=1&keywords=retina&qid=1612125444&sr=8-17-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzN01GS1RYWUVTMkQ0JmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUExMDQxNTIxMTg2Q00wTVhVV0Q2MSZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwMjQ2NzQyMTM5NktXRlkwUFNOQyZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX210ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=

 

[biohacker1]

So, first things first, retin-a is a metabolite of retinol, and it's much more important than retinol (kinda like minoxidil sulfate > minoxidil).
Then, as for adapalene, it's a bit different from retin-a, it only triggers one retinoid receptor, and i dont think it thickens the skin. Works great for acne if combined with benzoyl peroxide though (because althought adapalene is weaker than tretinoin, you get a bonus from combining ada & bp because one will reduce the inflammation, and the other desinfects the skin, and although adapelene is weaker than tretinoin, it doesnt get oxydized by bp).

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

So, first things first, retin-a is a metabolite of retinol, and it's much more important than retinol (kinda like minoxidil sulfate > minoxidil).
Then, as for adapalene, it's a bit different from retin-a, it only triggers one retinoid receptor, and i dont think it thickens the skin. Works great for acne if combined with benzoyl peroxide though (because althought adapalene is weaker than tretinoin, you get a bonus from combining ada & bp because one will reduce the inflammation, and the other desinfects the skin, and although adapelene is weaker than tretinoin, it doesnt get oxydized by bp).

Thanks for that. I seem to be one who has few sides from retin-A and I have used it fairly copiously on scalp and face with an estradiol carrier. I have used it for about six months and now probably only use it, two to four times per month with the estradiol carrier.

I will have to look into retinol receptors as that is interesting. I get the feeling that ceteris paribus, adaptagel is probably still worth using for someone with no acne or as a topical mixed with minoxidil or Estrogel.

 

[biohacker1]

Estriol and tretinoin work great together. I'd recommend you use it more often with your estradiol gel.
They synergize really well, it also has the bonus of giving you a really good skin.

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

Estriol and tretinoin work great together. I'd recommend you use it more often with your estradiol gel.
They synergize really well, it also has the bonus of giving you a really good skin.

Well, in general, HRT has given me simply incredible skin effects, from head to toe. My cross-linked heels spontaneously "healed". I would never go off estrogen. The health benefits are incredible and verified scientifically and the beauty and youth effects are substantial in my perception. Beard removal is likely to improve skin outcomes for all XY's, regardless of gender-orientation, for those who stay out of the sun or use sun block daily.

 

[biohacker1]

I'm happy to hear your transition is going well !
The fact it healed your cross-linked heels is pretty cool as well.

I agree with everything you're saying except for the beard part. The beard actually protects the skin quite a bit.
If you ever saw somebody shave their beard off for the first time in 20 years, you'd be amazed at how good it is at skin protection.

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

I'm happy to hear your transition is going well !
The fact it healed your cross-linked heels is pretty cool as well.

I agree with everything you're saying except for the beard part. The beard actually protects the skin quite a bit.
If you ever saw somebody shave their beard off for the first time in 20 years, you'd be amazed at how good it is at skin protection.

I never denied that. I agree with it completely. Male skin (and beards) is made for the outdoors and is protective against sun, brambles and other male fists. My skin tears easily now even from brushing against the brick fireplace and it is far lighter in complexion putting me at risk from the sun.

 

[biohacker1]

Ok ok !

 

[Will Be an Egg in 5 years]

I use it for my dupa among other things, it works super well when combined with estriol.
I have formulated an hypothesis on why that might be the case.
TLDR : it has to do with the fact that tretinoin inhibits PGD2 production, thickens the skin (good for the hairs) and enhances degradation of androgen receptors.

pics?

 

[biohacker1]

I'm sorry, I won't post pics of myself. I don't feel comfortable doing that.
My current status is that most of the dupa hairs have grown back, but there's still a zone (from nape to temple point, right above the ears) that isn't growing well.
The "baseline" was severe dupa that affected all my scalp in a gradient (the closest it was to the ear, the worse it got), with only the central part of my scalp being unaffected (central hairline to central nape).