Should I even bother with trying Propecia ?

rtpatter

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I just turned 36 and have thinning at the crown and temples. Using rogaine has helped a little but not much. I have been on the fence about propecia. I would really doubt if I could tolerate the drug anyway but the unknown long term effects would definitely keep me from using the drug for life. So the question is if I plan on quitting in 4 or 5 years should I even bother starting.
 

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If you are concerned, then don't start. If you aren't, you'll need to make a decision... however, be aware that the drug has been reported to cause persistent ED by both Swedish Medical Agency and UK MHRA. Nobody knows the true number of men affected, why some guys get side effects vs. others, or how many end up with long term issues, ie http://blog.alanjacobsmd.com/alan-jacob ... n-men.html

You should consider getting tested for Finasteride response via http://www.hairdx.com if you decide to risk things.

My advice would be to err on the side of caution and maintain a healthy body and endocrine system, not inhibiting DHT and neurosteroid production, and look at alternatives to 5AR inhibitor use. Others will have their opinions of course, but that is mine.
 

dougfunny

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Mew said:
You should consider getting tested for Finasteride response via http://www.hairdx.com if you decide to risk things.

What use is this? Obviously he has male pattern baldness so there is no need to test to see if he has one of the genes that cause it, which is apparently what that test is.

Save your money.
 

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What use is this? Obviously he has male pattern baldness so there is no need to test to see if he has one of the genes that cause it, which is apparently what that test is.

Save your money.


Obviously you are too uneducated or dense to comprehend the purpose of this test. Let me enlighten you -- from the website:
http://www.hairdx.com/GeneticTestmale.aspx?view=2

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"Men who test positive for the variant AR gene should be advised that they are at a high risk for developing Male Pattern Hair Loss. These men may wish to consult with a physician specializing in hair restoration, who can develop a plan to monitor and treat hair loss. For example, such men may be good candidates for finasteride (Propecia), especially if treatment is started early.

In contrast, men who test negative for the variant AR gene can be reassured that they are at a low risk for developing Male Pattern Hair Loss. This avoids unnecessary concern or expense over hair loss. "

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From http://www.hairdx.com/FinasterideTestMale.aspx

"The HairDX (RxR) Genetic Test will help you determine if your patient will have a slight or great treatment response to Finasteride; thus, allowing you to provide your patients with the best treatment regimen to save their hair "

"The HairDX (RxR) Genetic Test provides men with a score, called the CAG repeat score. A smaller CAG repeat score is associated with an increased response to Finasteride for the treatment of androgenetic alopecia in men "

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The purpose of the test is thus to determine your potential response to FINASTERIDE. Some men get great results from the drug, others see little to no results. This is due to GENETICS.

This test can give you a prediction of response to the drug -- if the drug isn't going to be of much or any help, there is no point taking it -- saving you money, and potentially from any side effects or negative effects on your health.

THAT's the benefit of the test. Get it now?
 

rtpatter

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I would very much be interested in a hair DX test. How can I find a doctor that performs these test and whats the cost? If nothing else it just might give me some idea how much more hair I am going to lose wouldn't it?
 

Mew

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How can I find a doctor that performs these test and whats the cost?

There's a big button on the top menu of hairdx.com site that says "FIND A DOCTOR". I would think that's where you can find one!
 

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Cassin said:
mew why do you always have to have a shitty tone to your posts? You always seem so put off and annoyed by everyone. Maybe you need a break.mew why do you always have to have a shitty tone to your posts? You always seem so put off and annoyed by everyone. Maybe you need a break.

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 9:00 am

Shitty tone? Not at all. Text is open to interpretation, some people may take the message the wrong way.

As for being put off and annoyed, when someone asks where they can find doctors to administer a test, and the website links given have an exact menu button saying "FIND A DOCTOR", it should be fairly obvious what to do.

No offense to the original poster, but you'd expect such things to be a given, if one takes the time to review the website link. I wouldn't call that being "annoyed", it's simply pointing out the obvious.

Anyway, I was trying to help this gentleman determine if he wants to take a risk with Finasteride by providing him the hairdx.com website. He is free to do as he chooses.
 

rtpatter

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I saw the button but couldn't get the link to work so I wasn't trying to be annoying or lazy. I have also read that the hair DX test is of somewhat limited value becuase it simply tells how sensitive your receptors are to DHT it doesn't tell you how many receptors you have. So basically your are still stuck trying the drug if you really want to know if it will help. However, it would still be interesting to see how I test. As far as propecia I have really had trouble finding anyone that has had positive results without sides for an extended period. I could see if you were single in your 20's it might be worth rolling the dice to buy an extra 7 or 8 years but that is not my situation. However, like everyone else I would like to keep my hair if possible.
 

Mew

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So basically your are still stuck trying the drug if you really want to know if it will help.

Well ultimately, yes. But based on the below, the test will tell you wether you would be a good responder to the drug in the first place. If you aren't predicted to be, probably no point in risking use of the medication per your concerns about side effects etc.


Again, I repost from http://www.hairdx.com/FinasterideTestMale.aspx

Quote:"The HairDX (RxR) Genetic Test will help you determine if your patient will have a slight or great treatment response to Finasteride; thus, allowing you to provide your patients with the best treatment regimen to save their hair "

"The HairDX (RxR) Genetic Test provides men with a score, called the CAG repeat score. A smaller CAG repeat score is associated with an increased response to Finasteride for the treatment of androgenetic alopecia in men "
 

dougfunny

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Mew said:
So basically your are still stuck trying the drug if you really want to know if it will help.

Well ultimately, yes. But based on the below, the test will tell you wether you would be a good responder to the drug in the first place. If you aren't predicted to be, probably no point in risking use of the medication per your concerns about side effects etc.


Again, I repost from http://www.hairdx.com/FinasterideTestMale.aspx

[quote:3acglifn]Quote:"The HairDX (RxR) Genetic Test will help you determine if your patient will have a slight or great treatment response to Finasteride; thus, allowing you to provide your patients with the best treatment regimen to save their hair "

"The HairDX (RxR) Genetic Test provides men with a score, called the CAG repeat score. A smaller CAG repeat score is associated with an increased response to Finasteride for the treatment of androgenetic alopecia in men "
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The reason this seems fishy to me is that almost everyone is a good responder to this drug. It stops hair loss in over 90% of patients.

Also the study this group cites had less than 200 participants.


Basically it looks like they are just identifying a gene that has been linked to hair loss.

There does not appear to be any good explanation of the reason they are able to predict a response to finasteride. And that this website looks like one of those fake pharmacy sites selling v**** certainly does not help its credibility.


I'll tell you what though - I think we just got a glimpse into the future here with this company. This kind of pay to identify a gene that some company believes causes a disease is going to be big business and is really the direction bio-tech is headed.
 
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