Started finasteride three days ago and already limp......wtf? Help*

[stillpullnpussy]

Ok guys,

Just when i thought it couldn't get any worse. I found myself wearing a baseball hat at "my girls" house (we've been dating for four months and she is gorgeous....gorgeous) because of my rapidly and i mean rapidly thinning hair. So we're on her bed watching TV while we can hear her roomate having sex (loud banging sex think mild version of fight club) and she kind of looks over at me and so we get into it and guess what? I couldn't maintain and i had no sensitivity. I kind of played it off and was like "what is going on? thats lame etc etc." But i knew why in my head and seriously went into a daze she had to bring me out of it. Of course i was thinking OMG why? why would u do this? take away my hair as i meet this beautiful girl that i really like then I go limp because I try and do something about it. So FCKED. Time before we saw each other the sex was amazing. I had no sensitivity for the first time in my life last night. So were now laying there on her bed after wards and just touching each other after and she feels the hair at the back of my head and im thinking oh great (thinning no volume and believe it or not when i meet her and the first time we had sex about 5 months ago it was thick and full...makes baby jesus cry) I never knew this hair thing could be so bad. I am in a dilemna about the libido thing...something tells me that if i don't stay on a dht blocker i will be bald in a few years no ?s asked. I guess my question is this:

To those people who have experienced this within early use...Does it go away ? or should i just drop it now as those who are affected initially are always affected? Could it be hormones are all over the place and haven't settled? Could it be psychosomatic? But if it was only in my head i think the fact that she is so good looking on top of me naked i would get over it....Plus the fact that nothing felt good is scary.


Signing off depressed

 

[Shazz]

I started finasteride about 9 days ago, and within a few days I grew a little concerned after noticing a mild decrease in libido / sensitivity. It just seemed like it was taking longer for me to get it up, and the erections weren't quite at 100% (more like 60-70%).

But in the last couple days things seem to be returning to normal, I'd say I'm back around 90%. It may have been psychosomatic. I'll just have to stick it out for a while to see how things stabilize. I'm trying not to think about it too much, while still taking note of the frequency of stiffies and half-chubs throughout the day.

 

[stillpullnpussy]

Shazz,

Thanks bro. Yes, thinking about it less will definitely help. What is the dosage you are taking if you don't mind me asking? And also i was able to get it up to about 65-75% last night as well just couldn't maintain. No morning wood this am either and i feel like my c*** has gotten smaller...less bloodflow or something? And this is not in my head.


Who else out there have had experiences similar to those of mine and shazz?

 

[Shazz]

I'm taking Finax 1mg (generic finasteride from Dr. Reddy's) every morning. I've been considering taking it every other day if any sides persist (shift down to 0.5mg/daily), but I'm gonna wait it out for a few more days and monitor the situation.

My current regimen consists only of finasteride and Nizoral (3 x week). I'm gonna wait and see before adding the minoxidil foam, so I have a better idea as to how effective each individual treatment is.

Let me know how it goes man. I just started last week, so I don't want to bail too soon even though it's easy to get freaked out when it comes to your manhood. Here's my plan:

If sides continue and are significant (like performing at 70% or below), I'm gonna cut down to 0.5mg/day and see if things change.

If I stabilize at 85-90% (slight decrease in libido), I might consider L-Arginine as a supplement to enhance blood flow (from what I understand, DHT blockers affect your Nitric Oxide levels). Since I've been getting into a good gym routine lately, I might pick up a jug of whey protein and just make sure it has L-Arginine in it. If anyone has any thoughts/concerns about this let me know!

 

[Knendell]

To the OP,

Try taking .5mg at the beginning. Its pretty typical of the libido going crazy till it adjusts. Trust me, tomorrow you might be so horny you wouldn't believe it. Try a lower dose and let your body stabilize and don't freak out when your balls start to ache for a few days after about a week of the meds. Totally normal. I also take L arginine as a suppliment and it seems to help a bit. 4 months into a relationship and I think you can be honest with her about these things. Just my 2 cents.

 

[Shazz]

Hey gsxr,

How long have you been taking finasteride, and what has been your experience with sides? Is that what led you to supplement with L-arginine?

Your feedback would be much appreciated. Cheers!

 

[Mew]

Happened to me too, within 3 days experienced ED, loss of sensitivity/tingling in scrotum and shaft, genital numbness... my libido initially went up within the first month then gradually subdued over the next 11 months... but I had erectile dysfunction the entire time, began getting pseudo-gyno, and a variety of mental side effects gradually set in (depression, anxiety, memory loss, slurring of speech).

When I quit, 2 weeks later I recovered to my Pre-finasteride state for 5 days (flood of DHT came back), then my Testosterone levels crashed, penis/testicular shrinkage started to occur, and total loss of libido/impotence.

Been struggling to recover ever since. My advice to you is if you are getting these sides this early, I wouldn't ride it out -- clearly the drug does not agree with your system. I should have listened to my body at the time but stupidly thought I'd continue since Merck said side effects sometimes resolve if you continue taking the drug, and if they don't, when you quit they should go away.

That was 2 years ago. Now me and others on propeciahelp.com are trying to figure out WTF happened to us and if it's even possible to recover at all via further hormonal treatments (ie, Clomid, hCG, Tamoxifen... even Testosterone Replacement Therapy, which is for life) and dealing with docs who tell us everything is in our heads.

Good luck with whatever you decide.

 

[stillpullnpussy]

My current regimen consists only of finasteride and Nizoral (3 x week). I'm gonna wait and see before adding the minoxidil foam, so I have a better idea as to how effective each individual treatment is.

I am on the same regimen shazz and have the foam already but plan on doing the same in regards to waiting vs all three at once. I sometimes think i might get worried or anxious with the state of my hair and just start applying the rogaine early. Either way im dreading twice a day apps. How nice would new hair be though...? I ask myself sometimes. My temples are almost gone and my hairline is going to sh*t and i don't know if propecia can regrow the temples and thicken up the hairline as much as i want.

If I stabilize at 85-90% (slight decrease in libido), I might consider L-Arginine as a supplement to enhance blood flow (from what I understand, DHT blockers affect your Nitric Oxide levels). Since I've been getting into a good gym routine lately, I might pick up a jug of whey protein and just make sure it has L-Arginine in it. If anyone has any thoughts/concerns about this let me know!

So funny you mention that because I honestly have never read anything to do with an actual reduction in blood flow associated with anti dht but it def felt that way. Any links you can provide because I am curious to read on this topic? L-Arginine would most likely help in a decent does however I am not sure how many grams are in the protein mix and whether or not this would be sufficient for your purpose. In all honestly I'm probably going to ride out even if i don't get back to 100% within the next seven days without a supplement to help in that department if possible at all. I know that our bodies need time to adjust and are capable of doing so. I'd rather not mess with arginine only for peace of mind. My mind plays games when it comes to this sh*t and I have had performance anxiety once in my life. I don't wish that upon any man.

SO far its been about 4 days and I did actually feel somewhat maybe a little horny today, not as much wood as usual if any slight. However, I still felt something which i guess was a relief/good sign.


A few things that might not be helping me in this area:

*In regards to bloodflow I smoke mary jane and grits (I plan on quitting new years...ciggarettes---the weed isn't a problem plus it's good for the soul) and I know how detrimental this is when it comes to NO levels.

*i have had psychosomatic incidents when it comes to this same situation in the past ^^so im hoping its all or maybe some in the head

* i only do cardio maybe once a week sometimes twice but will shoot for at least two sessions a week from now on. I've been lifting for 7 months 4 mostly 5 days a week religiously and supersets often which i count as cardio because i hate it so much.

*Also im taking 1.25mg not sure if that makes much difference. I've read that the efficacy isn't much different in between .25 and up to more than 1.5 I am splitting up fincar which hasn't been fun without a pill cutter. I plan on getting one asap.

I will lower the does in a few days maybe and stick with that for awhile and see how that goes.

To the OP,

Try taking .5mg at the beginning. Its pretty typical of the libido going crazy till it adjusts. Trust me, tomorrow you might be so horny you wouldn't believe it. Try a lower dose and let your body stabilize and don't freak out when your balls start to ache for a few days after about a week of the meds. Totally normal. I also take L arginine as a suppliment and it seems to help a bit. 4 months into a relationship and I think you can be honest with her about these things. Just my 2 cents.

Hey thanks GSXR. Like i wrote above ill try and lower does but not sure if thats even poss with fincar 5mg and how im going to cut that. About the 4 months yea youre totally right i guess i was just tired and stressed about it so i felt as though it wasn't good timing. Plus being in the moment didn't help either.

Also you guys I do have a mild case of GYNO and still have the balls to go on this stuff to save my hair. Im thinking about taking AI inhibitors and plus fat burn topicals on chest/nipples +plus a caloric deficit cycle to combat it sometime soon. I need to do some research on this and how and if safe with finasteride treatment. If anyone has any links on this it would be greatly appreciated.

To the last poster. I still have to give it some time even with all the risk due to what i wrote above.I wish you the best man and that is scary sh*t.

 

[Shazz]

So funny you mention that because I honestly have never read anything to do with an actual reduction in blood flow associated with anti dht but it def felt that way. Any links you can provide because I am curious to read on this topic?

Here are some things I've gathered:

"DHT is the active androgen in the maintenance of nitric oxide-mediated penile erection in the rat"
http://endo.endojournals.org/cgi/conten ... 136/4/1495
(sure these are rats, but i remember reading elsewhere that DHT inhibits the synthesis of NO)

"How to Increase It Naturally"

http://ezinearticles.com/?Impotence---Y ... &id=394091

More research on the "dysfunction" issue:

"Inhibition of 5-alpha reductase with finasteride: sleep-related erections, potency and libido in healthy men"
http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/conten ... 934?ck=nck
(this supports the claim that finasteride does NOT impair erectile function)

In another study:

"Thirty-six patients (75%) were judged to be potent before the treatment. Finasteride caused erectile dysfunction in 8 patients (22%) by month 3 and in 12 (33%) by month 6. A substantial improvement was noted in symptoms of benign prostatic hyperplasia in all patients. The serum prostate specific antigen level decreased by 42% and 50% at month 3 and at month 6, respectively. Continued administration of finasteride, 5 mg/day alters the serum levels of testosterone, dihydrotestosterone, FSH, and LH significantly. Finasteride also causes sexual dysfunction in a substantial number of patients and should be offered with caution to patients who have an active sexual life."

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_o ... f15670230e

(keep in mind this was done with 5mg dosage of finasteride on older males aged 49-81 with BPH)

 

[Guest]

I noticed a total loss of my sex drive since day one. Well, I don´t have a good looking girlfriend, so this is no problem for me

 

[Shazz]

stillpullnpussy,

Just to let you know, things seem to have returned to normal on my end. I'm still taking 1mg and couldn't detect any adverse effects today or yesterday. (Of course, this is only Day 11). Let's hope it stays that way.

Mew's story kinda freaks me out, but it's comforting to know he's one of the major posters on Propeciahelp.com

I noticed a total loss of my sex drive since day one. Well, I don´t have a good looking girlfriend, so this is no problem for me

Can you elaborate? You mean no sex drive at all since you started? Aren't you a little concerned?

 

[RaginDemon]

stillpullnpussy,

Just to let you know, things seem to have returned to normal on my end. I'm still taking 1mg and couldn't detect any adverse effects today or yesterday. (Of course, this is only Day 11). Let's hope it stays that way.

Mew's story kinda freaks me out, but it's comforting to know he's one of the major posters on Propeciahelp.com

I noticed a total loss of my sex drive since day one. Well, I don´t have a good looking girlfriend, so this is no problem for me

Can you elaborate? You mean no sex drive at all since you started? Aren't you a little concerned?

just ignore Taug, he's got mental issues... don't take him too serious or you are gonna regret. lol

 

[Guest]

Can you elaborate? You mean no sex drive at all since you started? Aren't you a little concerned?

Yeah, I might basically live without jerking off since then. I something do it though, because I am bored, but that´s it. I am not concerned. I am not planning to have sexual relationships in the future and my hair is just too important for me.

 

[stillpullnpussy]

ive been on here quite a bit and taug man as depressing as you are you still crack me up.

stillpullnpussy,

Just to let you know, things seem to have returned to normal on my end. I'm still taking 1mg and couldn't detect any adverse effects today or yesterday. (Of course, this is only Day 11). Let's hope it stays that way.

Mew's story kinda freaks me out, but it's comforting to know he's one of the major posters on Propeciahelp.com

Hey shazz thx for the update and that's awesome man. Ive read quite a bit on this site and others seems as though some of the guys do better than usual the first month then either stabilize or go down. I'd imagine it's a bit different for everyone. I guess im feeling ok did have morning wood so that was good a sign. I wouldnt say its down it just feels different. I can tell my body is still trying to adapt. Ive been tired. Which i havnt read anyone else write or seen on any studies. Honestly, im just going to try not to think about it.

 

[RaginDemon]

stillpullnpussy,

Just to let you know, things seem to have returned to normal on my end. I'm still taking 1mg and couldn't detect any adverse effects today or yesterday. (Of course, this is only Day 11). Let's hope it stays that way.

Mew's story kinda freaks me out, but it's comforting to know he's one of the major posters on Propeciahelp.com

I noticed a total loss of my sex drive since day one. Well, I don´t have a good looking girlfriend, so this is no problem for me

Can you elaborate? You mean no sex drive at all since you started? Aren't you a little concerned?

I love guys from Propeciahelp.com, they are so whinning that I actually feel my gf is reasonable.

 

[k3nn7i]

lol...3 days effect eh? thats kinda harsh...

 

[stillpullnpussy]

lol...3 days effect eh? thats kinda harsh...

i wasn't laughing but yah it was and im going to my girls after class tonight so we'll see how that goes this will be round two.....

 

[RaginDemon]

lol...3 days effect eh? thats kinda harsh...

i wasn't laughing but yah it was and im going to my girls after class tonight so we'll see how that goes this will be round two.....

have fun brotha!

 

[k3nn7i]

:woot: force it to stand!

 

[Iowaya]

Can you elaborate? You mean no sex drive at all since you started? Aren't you a little concerned?

Yeah, I might basically live without jerking off since then. I something do it though, because I am bored, but that´s it. I am not concerned. I am not planning to have sexual relationships in the future and my hair is just too important for me.

I am the same, why do people always assume you're BS'in? I barely jerked either when I was taking finasteride, it just didn't do anything for me. It was more like, "oh, it's been like five days, maybe I should jerk now".

Although I quit after about four and a half months, I was sick of moobs and my limp dick.