substitute garlic extract for resveratrol

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After some experimentation, I have found curcumin and garlic extract to be just as (and possibly more) effective than curcumin and resveratrol. In addition, garlic extract is far less expensive.

Be curious to know the effect this combination has on other members.
 

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The Natural said:
After some experimentation, I have found curcumin and garlic extract to be just as (and possibly more) effective than curcumin and resveratrol. In addition, garlic extract is far less expensive.

Be curious to know the effect this combination has on other members.

more effective? How do you measure? Did you grew any hair?
 

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I eliminated my chronic dandruff and achieved some light regrowth with curcumin and resveratrol. My dandruff has not returned since switching to garlic extract.

Hair has become thicker; but this may be also due to the presence of vitamin B which has been included in this particular garlic extract formula.
 

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Kyolic's curcumin and garlic

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From a poster at another forum:

"orwell on Sun Apr 03, 2011 2:51 am

Recently I started shoting double doses of aged garlic liquid extract each night and also rubbing the liquid through my hairline.

In short, my hair feels thicker and fuller and all the inflammation has resided, my hair feels great and I am absolutely confident the garlic has created the right conditions for growth!!!!!

As a bonus my face is smoothing out and meantime the garlic is detoxing my insides

I would wholeheartedly recommend aged garlic extract..."


Now, I, personally, did not achieve these kind of results from garlic extract alone. I believe the addition of curcumin is vital to this equation. But who knows, right. I guess, it depends on the person.
 

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if it did work then I'm sure Vin Diesel would be using it but yet he's still bald :(
 

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I checked out the Allimed. It looks potent.

My dandruff still has not returned since changing to garlic extract (and curcumin). And I couldn't be happier, if it (garlic extract) has become a cheaper, more effective alternative. I found these claims by a Kyolic representative to be interesting, especially number four:

1. Carboline is the strongest defender of cellular DNA that neutralizes singlet oxygen, and the cellular mugger Peroxynitrite, found only in Kyolic aged garlic extract!

2. F4-protein is the substance that activates immune cell system defenders, natural killer cells, T-cells and macrophage, found only in Kyolic aged garlic extract!

3. Fructosyl-arginine protects low-density lipoprotein (LDL) from oxidation, the only state in which it can initiate cardiovascular problems, found only in Kyolic aged garlic extract!

4. SAMC prevents the hormone testosterone from changing into hazardous levels of dihydrotestosterone that contributes to abnormal cell growth, hair loss and prostate abnormalities, found only in Kyolic aged garlic extract!

5. SP-Saponin, a priceless adaptogen, helps keep the immune system in balance and activates the most crucial protective antioxidant enzymes in your body: glutathione, super oxide dismutase (SOD) and catalase, found only in Kyolic aged garlic extract!

6. S-allyl cysteine is a power-packed antioxidant and detoxifier. Only Kyolic Aged Garlic Extract offers a standardized level of this substance.

7. Kyolic Aged Garlic Extract is the only garlic supplement to receive a U.S. Patent for lowering homocysteine, a marker more important than high cholesterol.

8. Kyolic Aged Garlic Extract is the only garlic supplement proven to deactivate phase 2 enzymes protecting the body from potential carcinogens."
 

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Here's Enzymatic Therapy's take on that..notice they sell "Fresh" garlic though:

Aged and fresh garlic extracts are processed very differently and contain different components. To make aged garlic, garlic is placed in an ethanol solution and stored for 20 months. Aged garlic extract contains S-allyl mercaptocysteine (SAMC), a compound that AGE makers claim is the reason garlic is so good for us. Interestingly, fresh garlic does not contain any SAMC. It only appears after the aging process. Although a body of research has been developed for aged garlic, there have been no successful independent replications of aged garlic studies.

At first I thought maybe Kyolic has the rights/patents to aged garlic..but there are others out there. So I'm assuming they too contain SAMC... :dunno:
 

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Jacob said:

Yep, good stuff.

All of these companies are competitive. Enzymatic therapy states that it "contains Allicin, not found in aged garlic." And then Kyolic returns with, "...Many of these garlic supplement companies claim allicin as the active ingredient in garlic, but the fact is not one of them contains allicin or delivers allicin to the blood. Allicin is oxidative, unstable, and not bioavailable, it cannot be an active ingredient in garlic supplements. Allicin content is pure advertising hype, not scientific fact."

Both companies want our money.
 

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It's a war out there I tell ya.

Stabilized allicin is the result of a patented process which produces purified, living-source, completely stable allicin-for the first time in history. Allicin is not garlic - but the fully potent, active factor in concentrated form, never before available. It has broad spectrum, anti-infective properties coupled with strong, immune boosting and immunomodulating capacity. This makes stabilized allicin a highly significant antimicrobial clinical agent, especially in today’s world of widespread infections and with the creation of new forms of multi drug resistant super bugs that have emerged due to the overuse of traditional antibiotics.

There must be one out there that contains both and the company brags about both :eek:nfire:
 

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I just remembered this one..which is on sale from time to time: http://www.swansonvitamins.com/SWK014/ItemDetail

http://blackgarlic.com/

In Taoism mythology, black garlic was rumored to grant immortality. We can’t promise you that, but there’s no doubt that black garlic is great for your health—it’s loaded with nearly twice as many antioxidants as raw garlic. It also contains S-Allycysteine, which is fancy talk for a natural compound that has been proven to be a factor in cancer prevention.
 

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Actually, garlic extract was one of the first supplements that I used, about 15 years ago. Not for hair loss, mind you, just for general health. I remember that it increased my energy, thinned my blood, like an aspirin, curing my chronic sports-related back pain that I had at the time. But now that I think of it: This aged garlic extract is what could have very well delayed my hair loss.

After I stopped taking it, it was probably within a year that I began experiencing some light thinning. But instead of returning to aged garlic extract, I tried Shen Min, which wasn't bad. It definitely slowed the thinning for a period.
 

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S-allyl-mercaptocysteine (SAMC) in aged garlic

"S-allyl-mercaptocysteine (SAMC), a compound derived from aged Garlic, appears to diminish the growth of Human prostate cancer cells. Researchers from Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center in New York City found that the SAMC causes cancer cells to break down testosterone two to four times more quickly than normal—and through a route that does not produce dihydrotestosterone (DHT), a form of the hormone strongly associated with the multiplication of prostate cells. SAMC can be found only in Garlic extract that is aged. Several immunotherapies have been approved by the FDA for cancer treatment. Others are still under study."
 

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Synergy: garlic and vitamin C

This might be old news to some here, but I decided to post it anyway:

Taking garlic and vitamin C supplements together may reduce blood pressure, says a study published in the journal Nutrition Research (2007, vol. 27, no. 2).

Scientists from New York's Pharmaceutical Research Institute at Albany College of Pharmacy recruited six people with marginally high blood pressure (140/90 mmHg). With one-week breaks between each course, subjects completed ten-day doses of vitamin C alone (2 grams per day), then garlic capsules alone (2.5 grams per day of freeze-dried bulb powder), and finally, a combination of the two.

Taking vitamin C by itself did not affect the subjects' blood pressure. Garlic alone reduced systolic (peak) blood pressure, but not diastolic pressure (when the heart is resting). But together, vitamin C and garlic reduced systolic levels to between 110 and 120 and diastolic to 75 to 80.

Blood pressure dropped, researchers theorized, because cells lining the walls of the blood vessels were producing more nitric oxide, a compound that helps to regulate blood pressure and immunity, as well as many other bodily functions. Taking garlic supplements alone caused a twofold increase in cellular nitric oxide production, they said. But combining garlic and vitamin C resulted in a threefold increase.
 
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