Hello.
This is my first post on a hairloss forum. I wanted to share my experience with RU.
Some background information: I started suffering from hairloss when i was 17 years old. After my first visit to the dermatologist i was prescribed minoxidil 2% and vitamins. It didn't work. I went back a couple of times during the next 12 months. On my fourth visit to the doctor i was prescribed finasteride and i never came back. It made wonders. Four months later my hairloss had stopped except for the temples. Hairloss on my temples continued at a much slower rate. I coped happily with that.
Unfortunately, my hairloss situation changed completely 12 months ago. I decided to stop taking finasteride.
I had been suffering from brain fog for the last 8-9 years. I didn't know finasteride could cause, or at least strengthen, brain fog until i read a post from a hairloss forum member. I checked other posts and found he wasn't alone. For every member who had noticed finasteride induced brain fog Im sure there were hundreds with no brain fog whatsoever but there were enough people noticing brain fog as a finasteride side effect to take notice.
On the other hand, brain fog wasn't the only side effect we had in common. Sexual sides had been a constant for me. I had suffered libido loss from the start and loss of morning woods 5-6 years after.
Even though sexual sides grew with time i didn't give them much thought because sexual sides were supposed to disappear once the treatment were interrupted.
Not willing to stop finasteride and losing my hair, my first thought was lowering the dosage : 1.25 EOD or 0.6 ED. But I wasn't a regular hairloss forum member. I didn't know where to look so i googled. Google, "finasteride side effects" as a keyword and an afternoon to spend are going to take you , sooner or later, to some propecia-help user experience. I freaked. I didn't stop cold-turkey but i was no longer comfortable taking finasteride.
During the next year, I tried to counter my soon-to-resume hairloss with topical DHT inhibitors, antiandrogens and growth stimulants. I tried Revivogen, spironolactone lotion and cream, copper peptides ( Folligen and Prox-n ), Rogaine foam and hairloss supplements.
I know I tried too many hairloss treatments for such a short period of time and , hence, not enough time was given to evaluate the effectiveness of any of them.
Im just bringing together my results with each treatment. All were subject to the same level of impatience.
Revivogen ( 4 months )
I tried Revivogen on my hairline shortly after quitting finasteride. Since my hairloss had not yet resumed, I applied Revivogen only to my hairline. I thought it made sense: it would last much longer ( it's expensive ) and I was fighting locally the only area where finasteride had been unable to stop hairloss.
I applied Revivogen for three months. I shed lots of hairs. Terminal hairs were replaced with thin 0.3cm hairs that fell before growing any further. Once fallen, they never regrew back. I felt anxious but sticked to it. Shedding was supposed to be a good sign and hairloss treatments required some time.
After four months, I had severe brainfog. I sent back what Revivogen I had left and received a refund.
I don't know if I would have seen all those hairline hairs lost grow back had I kept applying Revivogen. Looking back, Im very happy I stopped applying Revivogen.
Copper Peptides ( Folligen and Prox-n ) and spironolactone S5 Cream ( 4 months )
After quitting Revivogen, I tried spironolactone. I bought S5 Cream from Hairlosstalk and , later on, made my own spironolactone at home. I added copper peptides to my regime too.
For 4 months, I applied copper peptides and spironolactone two times per day.
My hair felt healthier with Folligen but It had no effect on hairloss. In contrast, spironolactone seemed to have some effect at the beginning. It changed with time. Three months after starting spironolactone ( 6 months after quitting finasteride ) my pre-finasteride hairloss resumed and spironolactone + copper peptides made no difference. During the next month, I saw 2cm of hairline vanish and 100-150 hairs after showering.It was depressing.
I have very little density in my hairline having dealt for so long with hairloss in that area. Still, It was depressing to see it recede so quickly. It happened while taking finasteride but at a much much much slower rate.
EUCAPIL ( 1 month )
Panicked, I searched for other treatments I could try. I read about RU and Eucapil from el_duterino.
I tried Eucapil first. RU was stronger and cheaper than Eucapil but It didn't seem to work for everyone and I didn't want to find myself with 10g of RU ( minimum order - 300$ worth ) that didn't work for me. Eucapil was said to have no side effects too.
I tried Eucapil for 1.5 months. It worked. One and a half ampules per day slowed my hairloss. It was the first time a treatment had had some success treating my hairloss since quitting finasteride. I read Eucapil effectiveness was dose dependant. I couldn't afford enought Eucapil to try to halt my hairloss completely ( 3-4 ampules per day ) so I jumped to RU. It was much cheaper and I felt that the chances of RU working for me had grown after having had some success with Eucapil.
RU ( 3 months )
I ordered 10g from Kane ( koutingchina ). Communication was smooth and he was very helpful. He had run out of RU due to unexpected demand and I had to wait 7 days for the new batch to be ready. Once the new batch was cleared for sale , he shipped the RU promptly. Shipping was very fast. I received my order a couple of days after.
The powder was white, grained, no fishy smell and it dissolved completely in a 70% Ethanol / 30% PPG solution. I prepared and stored it ( and currently do ) following el_duterino recommendations.
I started with 20mg/day 70% Ethanol / 30 PPG 3 ml solution prepared daily. Two weeks were time enough to notice a decrease in hairloss.
Every two weeks I increased the dosage in 10mg. I found out 40mg was the most I could handle before experiencing mild brain fog.
Three months after starting RU, I am currently applying 30mg-40mg every day ( 30mg one day , 40 mg the next ). My hairloss is more or less ( maybe a bit less ) the same I had while taking finasteride.
As of today, 30-40mg of RU has the same effect for me as finasteride without any noticeable brain fog or sexual side effects. If sexual sides or brain fog appear I will let you know.
In my case , el_duterino thinking was right: If you have had good results with finasteride chances are RU will work for you.
Thanks.
This is my first post on a hairloss forum. I wanted to share my experience with RU.
Some background information: I started suffering from hairloss when i was 17 years old. After my first visit to the dermatologist i was prescribed minoxidil 2% and vitamins. It didn't work. I went back a couple of times during the next 12 months. On my fourth visit to the doctor i was prescribed finasteride and i never came back. It made wonders. Four months later my hairloss had stopped except for the temples. Hairloss on my temples continued at a much slower rate. I coped happily with that.
Unfortunately, my hairloss situation changed completely 12 months ago. I decided to stop taking finasteride.
I had been suffering from brain fog for the last 8-9 years. I didn't know finasteride could cause, or at least strengthen, brain fog until i read a post from a hairloss forum member. I checked other posts and found he wasn't alone. For every member who had noticed finasteride induced brain fog Im sure there were hundreds with no brain fog whatsoever but there were enough people noticing brain fog as a finasteride side effect to take notice.
On the other hand, brain fog wasn't the only side effect we had in common. Sexual sides had been a constant for me. I had suffered libido loss from the start and loss of morning woods 5-6 years after.
Even though sexual sides grew with time i didn't give them much thought because sexual sides were supposed to disappear once the treatment were interrupted.
Not willing to stop finasteride and losing my hair, my first thought was lowering the dosage : 1.25 EOD or 0.6 ED. But I wasn't a regular hairloss forum member. I didn't know where to look so i googled. Google, "finasteride side effects" as a keyword and an afternoon to spend are going to take you , sooner or later, to some propecia-help user experience. I freaked. I didn't stop cold-turkey but i was no longer comfortable taking finasteride.
During the next year, I tried to counter my soon-to-resume hairloss with topical DHT inhibitors, antiandrogens and growth stimulants. I tried Revivogen, spironolactone lotion and cream, copper peptides ( Folligen and Prox-n ), Rogaine foam and hairloss supplements.
I know I tried too many hairloss treatments for such a short period of time and , hence, not enough time was given to evaluate the effectiveness of any of them.
Im just bringing together my results with each treatment. All were subject to the same level of impatience.
Revivogen ( 4 months )
I tried Revivogen on my hairline shortly after quitting finasteride. Since my hairloss had not yet resumed, I applied Revivogen only to my hairline. I thought it made sense: it would last much longer ( it's expensive ) and I was fighting locally the only area where finasteride had been unable to stop hairloss.
I applied Revivogen for three months. I shed lots of hairs. Terminal hairs were replaced with thin 0.3cm hairs that fell before growing any further. Once fallen, they never regrew back. I felt anxious but sticked to it. Shedding was supposed to be a good sign and hairloss treatments required some time.
After four months, I had severe brainfog. I sent back what Revivogen I had left and received a refund.
I don't know if I would have seen all those hairline hairs lost grow back had I kept applying Revivogen. Looking back, Im very happy I stopped applying Revivogen.
Copper Peptides ( Folligen and Prox-n ) and spironolactone S5 Cream ( 4 months )
After quitting Revivogen, I tried spironolactone. I bought S5 Cream from Hairlosstalk and , later on, made my own spironolactone at home. I added copper peptides to my regime too.
For 4 months, I applied copper peptides and spironolactone two times per day.
My hair felt healthier with Folligen but It had no effect on hairloss. In contrast, spironolactone seemed to have some effect at the beginning. It changed with time. Three months after starting spironolactone ( 6 months after quitting finasteride ) my pre-finasteride hairloss resumed and spironolactone + copper peptides made no difference. During the next month, I saw 2cm of hairline vanish and 100-150 hairs after showering.It was depressing.
I have very little density in my hairline having dealt for so long with hairloss in that area. Still, It was depressing to see it recede so quickly. It happened while taking finasteride but at a much much much slower rate.
EUCAPIL ( 1 month )
Panicked, I searched for other treatments I could try. I read about RU and Eucapil from el_duterino.
I tried Eucapil first. RU was stronger and cheaper than Eucapil but It didn't seem to work for everyone and I didn't want to find myself with 10g of RU ( minimum order - 300$ worth ) that didn't work for me. Eucapil was said to have no side effects too.
I tried Eucapil for 1.5 months. It worked. One and a half ampules per day slowed my hairloss. It was the first time a treatment had had some success treating my hairloss since quitting finasteride. I read Eucapil effectiveness was dose dependant. I couldn't afford enought Eucapil to try to halt my hairloss completely ( 3-4 ampules per day ) so I jumped to RU. It was much cheaper and I felt that the chances of RU working for me had grown after having had some success with Eucapil.
RU ( 3 months )
I ordered 10g from Kane ( koutingchina ). Communication was smooth and he was very helpful. He had run out of RU due to unexpected demand and I had to wait 7 days for the new batch to be ready. Once the new batch was cleared for sale , he shipped the RU promptly. Shipping was very fast. I received my order a couple of days after.
The powder was white, grained, no fishy smell and it dissolved completely in a 70% Ethanol / 30% PPG solution. I prepared and stored it ( and currently do ) following el_duterino recommendations.
I started with 20mg/day 70% Ethanol / 30 PPG 3 ml solution prepared daily. Two weeks were time enough to notice a decrease in hairloss.
Every two weeks I increased the dosage in 10mg. I found out 40mg was the most I could handle before experiencing mild brain fog.
Three months after starting RU, I am currently applying 30mg-40mg every day ( 30mg one day , 40 mg the next ). My hairloss is more or less ( maybe a bit less ) the same I had while taking finasteride.
As of today, 30-40mg of RU has the same effect for me as finasteride without any noticeable brain fog or sexual side effects. If sexual sides or brain fog appear I will let you know.
In my case , el_duterino thinking was right: If you have had good results with finasteride chances are RU will work for you.
Thanks.
