Telogen Effluvium Or Male Pattern Baldness?

[Dejee]

New to this forum, Ive been loosing alot of hair over the past 1 or so. less than about a year and a half ago I had a full head of hair with no sign of receeding or thinning. I have been going through a very stressful period of my life during the time I have been loosing my hair. My diet isnt so good, being at uni its difficult to have a good one. Fitness wise Ive not been anywhere as fit but Ive not been overweight either. Im 19 btw

My scalp feels very itchy most of the time and and rough and dry when I touch it . I did have a pretty severe dandruff condition like 5 years ago to which the doctor prescribed me a Ketoconazole shampoo nizoral which did fix the dandruff issue. Alot of hair falls when ever I take a shower. When ever I run my fingers through my scalp, theres hair trapped in my fingers most of the time.

Im considering getting a short buzzcut and derma rolling the heck out of my scalp and oil massaging to try to regrow.

Does anyone have any idea of what condition I may have considering the info above and the pics?

 

[Tommybommy1363]

You have male pattern baldness

 

[Dejee]

You have male pattern baldness

I did forget to add That non of the men in my famiily have male pattern baldness from my dad and mum side even both of my grandads didnt. I dont feel like it is male pattern baldness.

 

[MyMemesAreBest]

I did forget to add That non of the men in my famiily have male pattern baldness from my dad and mum side even both of my grandads didnt. I dont feel like it is male pattern baldness.

You're going to need to post old pictures to compare. I've had telogen effluvium before, and it didn't come with much crown loss or frontal hairline loss. Check the sides of your hair, if your sides are as thin as the top it's probably Telogen Effluvium, if not it's male pattern baldness. I could be wrong though that just my experience.
What kind of time frame did your hair go from normal to how it is now?

 

[Dejee]

it started a year and 3 months ago maybe

 

[Vince_Reagan]

it started a year and 3 months ago maybe

it is rare to lose so much in just a year and 3 months with male pattern baldness

 

[Tommybommy1363]

I did forget to add That non of the men in my famiily have male pattern baldness from my dad and mum side even both of my grandads didnt. I dont feel like it is male pattern baldness.

Lol well I guess you have it all figured out huh. Maybe it’s lupus? XD

 

[Jaka]

You risk your hair getting worse by waiting. Time is of essence when combating male pattern hair loss if that is your case. It's easier to prevent/slow than regrowing. Get yourself checked out by a doctor rather than waiting it out.

 

[Dejee]

Lol well I guess you have it all figured out huh. Maybe it’s lupus? XD

Lol Im just saying it doesnt feel like I have male pattern baldness because of the fact that I dont have any family history on it and my the stressful period of my my life cant just happen to coincide with my hairloss, plus the fact that my scalp always feels itchy. I dont know what I have but I hope whatever it is its reversible.

 

[Ikarus]

Lol Im just saying it doesnt feel like I have male pattern baldness because of the fact that I dont have any family history on it and my the stressful period of my my life cant just happen to coincide with my hairloss, plus the fact that my scalp always feels itchy. I dont know what I have but I hope whatever it is its reversible.

If I'm being completely honest, stress has such a low likelihood to cause such an appearance of hair loss. There's an issue I have with the images, why are they with your hair wet? Also, visit a dermatologist - this hair loss appears to be unusual, so it's best to visit a dermatologist rather than post on this website when most of the men just jump to a conclusion of male pattern baldness. Now, telogen effluvium is less common in men because statistically men don't suffer with issues which can actually cause temporary hair loss (e.g. eating disorders, postpartum) compared to women. Using eating disorders as an example, that can actually cause noticeable hair loss, and can eventually become chronic if it's not dealt with. I mean, if you're not eating enough calories (1,200 calories or less for growing males) your body is not going to give two shits about supporting hair growth, and will just go towards supporting what's important in your body.

 

[Tommybommy1363]

Lol Im just saying it doesnt feel like I have male pattern baldness because of the fact that I dont have any family history on it and my the stressful period of my my life cant just happen to coincide with my hairloss, plus the fact that my scalp always feels itchy. I dont know what I have but I hope whatever it is its reversible.

male pattern baldness commonly itches and it’s exacerbated by stress.

When people say Telogen Effluvium can be caused by stress they mean the kind that lands you in the icu on a ventilator. It’s just not common in men outside of that. Plus your loss is in a pattern, it’s about 99% male pattern baldness. The other 1% would be one of the hair loss zebras that I’m sure plenty of idiots on here will tell you that you have while you valuable time and hair

 

[Ikarus]

male pattern baldness commonly itches and it’s exacerbated by stress.

When people say Telogen Effluvium can be caused by stress they mean the kind that lands you in the icu on a ventilator. It’s just not common in men outside of that. Plus your loss is in a pattern, it’s about 99% male pattern baldness. The other 1% would be one of the hair loss zebras that I’m sure plenty of idiots on here will tell you that you have while you valuable time and hair

Male pattern baldness doesn't itch, where did you get that from? I agree with the stress part though, you would be having to go through a seriously traumatic experience for your hair to actually fall out (death of a loved one, going through sexual abuse, PTSD) where it's seriously having an impact on your body. I highly doubt he's experiencing issues along those lines. So, stress should be crossed out.

Even then, I don't think those experiences can cause hair loss on their own. With those type of experiences, you generally stop eating well and you consume your mind instead of food. A lack of calories does cause hair loss for a fact, and along with that you're going through a seriously stressful and traumatic situation, which creates a concoction for hair loss.

And if the person was 19 whilst dealing with issues like that, the likely hood that it's male pattern baldness is significantly lower, especially if no one in their family suffers with it.

The best thing he should be doing is seeing a dermatologist.

 

[Tommybommy1363]

Male pattern baldness doesn't itch, where did you get that from? I agree with the stress part though, you would be having to go through a seriously traumatic experience for your hair to actually fall out (death of a loved one, going through sexual abuse, PTSD) where it's seriously having an impact on your body. I highly doubt he's experiencing issues along those lines. So, stress should be crossed out.

Even then, I don't think those experiences can cause hair loss on their own. With those type of experiences, you generally stop eating well and you consume your mind instead of food. A lack of calories does cause hair loss for a fact, and along with that you're going through a seriously stressful and traumatic situation, which creates a concoction for hair loss.

And if the person was 19 whilst dealing with issues like that, the likely hood that it's male pattern baldness is significantly lower, especially if no one in their family suffers with it.

The best thing he should be doing is seeing a dermatologist.

male pattern baldness commonly itches, it’s a manifestation of hyperandrogenism. Sometimes it even progresses to outright seb derm. You commonly see it as a symptom of pcos.

Lose from an eating disorder isn’t worse at the temple and crown. He has diffuse thinning with significant crown loss and temple loss, classic male pattern baldness. Going to a derm will only potentially provide him with misinformation, what he should do is take propecia

 

[Alphalete]

male pattern baldness commonly itches, it’s a manifestation of hyperandrogenism. Sometimes it even progresses to outright seb derm. You commonly see it as a symptom of pcos.

Lose from an eating disorder isn’t worse at the temple and crown. He has diffuse thinning with significant crown loss and temple loss, classic male pattern baldness. Going to a derm will only potentially provide him with misinformation, what he should do is take propecia

W O K E

 

[random phone charger]

male pattern baldness commonly itches and it’s exacerbated by stress.

When people say Telogen Effluvium can be caused by stress they mean the kind that lands you in the icu on a ventilator. It’s just not common in men outside of that. Plus your loss is in a pattern, it’s about 99% male pattern baldness. The other 1% would be one of the hair loss zebras that I’m sure plenty of idiots on here will tell you that you have while you valuable time and hair

I have persistent social anxiety/ insomnia. I'd say that more than enough to get Telogen Effluvium. Then there's the fact you aren't accounting for the varying degrees in which people handle stress; some more than others

 

[Dejee]

Male pattern baldness doesn't itch, where did you get that from? I agree with the stress part though, you would be having to go through a seriously traumatic experience for your hair to actually fall out (death of a loved one, going through sexual abuse, PTSD) where it's seriously having an impact on your body. I highly doubt he's experiencing issues along those lines. So, stress should be crossed out.

Even then, I don't think those experiences can cause hair loss on their own. With those type of experiences, you generally stop eating well and you consume your mind instead of food. A lack of calories does cause hair loss for a fact, and along with that you're going through a seriously stressful and traumatic situation, which creates a concoction for hair loss.

And if the person was 19 whilst dealing with issues like that, the likely hood that it's male pattern baldness is significantly lower, especially if no one in their family suffers with it.

The best thing he should be doing is seeing a dermatologist.

Gives me hope, So the itching part as decribed above. About 5 years ago I had a pretty bad case of dandruff and for that the doctors prescribed me a ketaconzole shampoo which fixed the issue of dandruff at least it still itched tho to this day. I dont use the shampoo anymore and I suspect the condition is seborrheic dermatitis. When ever I rub my scalp hair seems to pull out quite easily, dk if the hairloss could only be due to that but it could also be a fungal infection up there. I will be getting it checked out soon tho.

 

[Ikarus]

male pattern baldness commonly itches, it’s a manifestation of hyperandrogenism. Sometimes it even progresses to outright seb derm. You commonly see it as a symptom of pcos.

Lose from an eating disorder isn’t worse at the temple and crown. He has diffuse thinning with significant crown loss and temple loss, classic male pattern baldness. Going to a derm will only potentially provide him with misinformation, what he should do is take propecia

I didn't say he was losing hair because of an eating disorder, I was using that as an example of something which can actually cause hair loss. Telogen Effluvium, in my opinion, is generally seen in women because men don't generally suffer with issues which can cause Telogen Effluvium, e.g. postpartum hair loss, eating disorders. And people use that statistic to jump to the conclusion that the person suffering with hair loss has male pattern baldness, which is unfair.

I think people need to stop jumping to conclusions with male pattern baldness, on this website they would probably tell 14 year olds that they have male pattern baldness.

 

[Ikarus]

Gives me hope, So the itching part as decribed above. About 5 years ago I had a pretty bad case of dandruff and for that the doctors prescribed me a ketaconzole shampoo which fixed the issue of dandruff at least it still itched tho to this day. I dont use the shampoo anymore and I suspect the condition is seborrheic dermatitis. When ever I rub my scalp hair seems to pull out quite easily, dk if the hairloss could only be due to that but it could also be a fungal infection up there. I will be getting it checked out soon tho.

Just go and visit a dermatologist, that's the best thing to do.