The Daily Pain of Going Bald

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I am 6 days away from getting a hair transplant. I don't know if it will solve anything, or everything....either way, 6 days is too long to wait, because any change to the way I feel now is welcomed. I am 32 years old, and I first noticed I was losing my hair at 20. It has been a grinding obsession for 12 years. Like many people, I feel like my youth has been stolen from me. Even though I had been through an abusive childhood, suffered abandonment issues, and was self-conscious in my pre-balding days, nothing prepared me for hair loss.

It's like you are half a person. I am invisible, or my pain is, and I don't know who I am. People say it's in my head, not on my head, but I can't get over the sense of inferiority. I wasn't born the best-looking guy, or the ugliest, but I was born with my body. It is mine. The eyes, nose, limbs, and hair. But it was warped and stigmatized. The daily pain of knowing you look old and genetically flawed with what we are taught is an old man's curse is intolerable. I've heard that there's a running theme of baldness as a curse in the bible, and I would and wouldn't like to look more into it. It does feel like I did something wrong in another life to have had to suffer this. Maybe the worst part is that I am told I shouldn't feel the way I feel. I should be grateful. So then guilt overcomes me, and I feel more inferior in my vanity and selfishness.

Is this just an obsession? Is it real pain? Is a transplant extreme? I'm basically a NW5 but I have white miniaturized hair covering the bald areas so with my blonde hair and pale reflection, I can maintain the illusion of hair. I am sick of wearing my hat, but I can't leave it at home. I had a girlfriend who wanted me to implement some bs she's learning in grad-school, where I condition myself to embrace my neurotic fears, if only one moment at a time. "Just one part of the day, take off your hat." We broke up, and when I told her I missed her a few months later (which I did) she said "you still haven't changed. You still can't accept yourself.) I'm in grad school too, and I can't focus now that the big day is approaching. I feel like someone who is desperate to have a sex-change or something, they feel trapped in a body that isn't theirs.

That's the daily pain--living in a world you can't participate in, for you are not you, only a you that you 'should' be, and you are a ghost that is trapped to the world of the living. I admit, I am not in pain all of the time. I do have joy and laughter at moments, but there's a weight that is ignored naturally at those moments. Eventually, I feel that weight drag me from the laughter when I realize I'm balding. And I hate myself for caring, but I do, I really do. 6 days is too long. After 12 years of trying in vain, 6 days is too long for a procedure which might make a difference. I know there is a wait after to see any results. My patience is gone, and I want to go to sleep for a week.

The daily pain of avoiding bright lights, of letting people stand behind you, of constantly looking in the mirror, of the hat which seems to grow tighter everyday, of knowing I don't have the confidence to talk to women and I will sleep alone another night. I guess I am being too dramatic. I should, as they say, "own it." Sometimes I wish friends of mine would lose their hair so they can feel my pain. I know I don't want anyone to suffer this, I just don't want to feel alone. I lost my mind when I noticed I was losing my hair. I became depressed, then so depressed I became psychotic and thought God was talking to me and I knew the secret of the universe. I had to get on anti-depressants, and became addicted to benzos and opiates. I'm three years sober now, and looking back, I shudder.
 

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You're not alone in suffering this worrywart. And talking about it, whether it be to your personal friends, or us here on this board will make you feel better. I don't know much about hair transplants, some of the people on this board have gone through with it and have become different and more confident versions of themselves as a result.

Hang in there.
 

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Hang in there, son. Sometimes I wish I could just sleep for days and days too.
So I can definitely relate to what you said.
Sleeping is a good way to save money and stay off the piss (alcohol).
Plus, sometimes the dreams are good.
 

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Hey man transplant in a few days thats awesome! Will definitely help you out I'm sure. I did the same thing with opiates and benzos made everything so much worse for me. 3 years thats what's up I'm bout to hit 1 year.

But yeah this is a daily struggle. Atleast we are young tho so who knows what the future holds.
 

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Sometimes, telling someone that they "shouldn't feel down" about hair loss is the worst thing you can do. People will bottle their feelings up and it only makes them feel more ashamed about it all. Talking about it isn't easy for any of us; its embarrassing and we're afraid people will either laugh at us or just dismiss it as unimportant.
This is why a site like this, where we can talk openly to like minded people is important.
 

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I do not disagree that talking about it is a good thing, but CHANGING your frame of mind is the most important thing.
OP, you said "I had a girlfriend who wanted me to implement some bs she's learning in grad-school, where I condition myself to embrace my neurotic fears, if only one moment at a time. "Just one part of the day, take off your hat" you didn't do it, and she broke up with you.

Obviously your hair loss didn't bother her, because she probably really loved you unconditionally.
What bothered her was that you couldn't accept it, and that drove her away.
SHE EVEN TOLD YOU THAT YOU HAVEN'T CHANGED YET.

A woman does not want man who cannot lead his own life, and i'm sorry to say but she didn't see you as the right fit for that reason. No matter what flaws you have, you need to accept them. I repeat, you need to accept them; or else you will be miserable for the rest of your life.

In my professional opinion, and based on what you said in the post, I truly believe that you would be a great candidate for cognitive behavioural therapy (CBT). No offence but you seem like a really negative person, and I dont know you personally, but I do know that you do not deserve to feel like this. Life is waaaaaaay to short to be caught up in such trivial matters.


 

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I do not disagree that talking about it is a good thing, but CHANGING your frame of mind is the most important thing.
OP, you said "I had a girlfriend who wanted me to implement some bs she's learning in grad-school, where I condition myself to embrace my neurotic fears, if only one moment at a time. "Just one part of the day, take off your hat" you didn't do it, and she broke up with you.

Obviously your hair loss didn't bother her, because she probably really loved you unconditionally.
What bothered her was that you couldn't accept it, and that drove her away.
SHE EVEN TOLD YOU THAT YOU HAVEN'T CHANGED YET.

A woman does not want man who cannot lead his own life, and i'm sorry to say but she didn't see you as the right fit for that reason. No matter what flaws you have, you need to accept them. I repeat, you need to accept them; or else you will be miserable for the rest of your life.

In my professional opinion, and based on what you said in the post, I truly believe that you would be a great candidate for cognitive behavioural therapy (CBT). No offence but you seem like a really negative person, and I dont know you personally, but I do know that you do not deserve to feel like this. Life is waaaaaaay to short to be caught up in such trivial matters.



If I had to guess you're a middle aged dude who noticed his temples were thinning or something but never experienced going bald at a young age. If not, then I congratulate you on your positivity. Your call for acceptance and therapy and changing your mindset is really profound, and if that's your professional opinion, I hope your not in the mental health profession. Judging someone is not being positive. I am glad that girl is gone because she was full of **** as well. She couldn't leave the house without mascara. She was ashamed of the shape of her eyes wit out it I guess. People think denying their feelings is owning their problems or situation, when in fact to acknowledge you can't accept something is true acceptance of yourself. It's people like you who make people feel guilty and confused with their micro-aggressive new age ignorance. I feel sorry for your patients. This forum is where I express my irrational fear and pain.....but not if it's slandered by self appointed truth mongering.
 

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If I had to guess you're a middle aged dude who noticed his temples were thinning or something but never experienced going bald at a young age. If not, then I congratulate you on your positivity. Your call for acceptance and therapy and changing your mindset is really profound, and if that's your professional opinion, I hope your not in the mental health profession. Judging someone is not being positive. I am glad that girl is gone because she was full of **** as well. She couldn't leave the house without mascara. She was ashamed of the shape of her eyes wit out it I guess. People think denying their feelings is owning their problems or situation, when in fact to acknowledge you can't accept something is true acceptance of yourself. It's people like you who make people feel guilty and confused with their micro-aggressive new age ignorance. I feel sorry for your patients. This forum is where I express my irrational fear and pain.....but not if it's slandered by self appointed truth mongering.

Man I'm 21 years old !!

My girlfriend is the same way as your previous, she loves getting all dolled up and looking nice, but you know what that shows ? That she has insecurities too.
We are all human, and no one is perfect.
My girlfriend thinks that if she pop a zit on her nose it will get bigger.. Is that an irrational fear ? of course it is. But I dont prosecute her for it, nor do I tell her that she's acting crazy. When i'm standing in the mirror measuring my hairline, she doesn't tell me i'm crazy, but she understands.

My intentions we not to make you feel guilty, because every human has the right to feel emotions; if they were unable to then, well they wouldn't be human. The problem therein, is learning to reframe negative thoughts into ones that are positive.

For example;
I take my gorgeous girlfriend out to a club, and she gets hit on more times then I can count.
Do I get angry? No. When she tells me stories like that, I just think "wow, I'm a lucky guy to be dating a girl this beautiful" (Half-full).
Don't get me wrong i've been in my fair share of fights with other guys, but that's only if they cross a line.
If a guy buys her a drink, I thank him. You know why? Less money for me to spend!
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you're correct in saying that these forums are where you express your irrational fear and pain, and truthfully it's great that you realize that your fears are irrational. What I tried to say is that you don't deserve to feel the way you do, no body does. You said:
"People think denying their feelings is owning their problems or situation,when in fact to acknowledge you can't accept something is true acceptance of yourself"
The first part of that of this statement is correct, because denying ones feelings IS NOT owning their problems or situations. You have feelings for a reason, and no matter how "irrational" they may seem, they are still your feelings; which as a human being you are 100% entitled to feel.
But for the second part to be correct, that would mean you are simply in a battle between what actually is and what your mind is distorting it to be.
These behaviours are very self-destructive, and just because I don't know you doesn't mean I dont want what is best for you.
We are all in this together, but every minute you spend in that battle is another minute you lose on your journey to self-actualization.
 

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Don't get me wrong i've been in my fair share of fights with other guys, but that's only if they cross a line.
If a guy buys her a drink, I thank him. You know why? Less money for me to spend!
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Hahah..that was good, but ya still gotta be careful that some jealous "loose cannon" type character doesn't put something in her drink.
And about fights... I used to get so frustrated with guys that would just wanna try to put you down because you were out having a good time with your girlfriend.
It really was a jungle out there sometimes, hahaha.

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But for the second part to be correct, that would mean you are simply in a battle between what actually is and what your mind is distorting it to be..
How about if "what actually is" is truly visually disgusting, and has been reaffirmed that it is hideous by the society we live in and even FAMILY members??
 

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exactly....we've been asked to accept the unacceptable. Its a well-oiled machine. Society tells us we are supposed to look a certain way, and when we don't, it sells us rogaine and finasteride to make money off the short-coming. I know it's ridiculous to be so hung up on hair. Deep down, I know that. But despite my logic and objectivity, I care. I care a lot. Some guys look good going bald, some don't, and some have no problem accepting it, or so they say. But why are you on this forum, why are you on minoxidil, if you are so accepting? Why can't you own it? The reason why I'm so heartbroken over hair loss is because I love myself. Or I'm a self-obsessed idiot who used to love himself until the mirror struck him down....
 

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exactly....we've been asked to accept the unacceptable. Its a well-oiled machine. Society tells us we are supposed to look a certain way, and when we don't, it sells us rogaine and finasteride to make money off the short-coming. I know it's ridiculous to be so hung up on hair. Deep down, I know that. But despite my logic and objectivity, I care. I care a lot. Some guys look good going bald, some don't, and some have no problem accepting it, or so they say. But why are you on this forum, why are you on minoxidil, if you are so accepting? Why can't you own it? The reason why I'm so heartbroken over hair loss is because I love myself. Or I'm a self-obsessed idiot who used to love himself until the mirror struck him down....

As long as you can maintain a positive frame and state control, you will never be phased.
If you build a house on a crappy foundation, it will crumble and fall.

You are an Oak tree.
It rain and thunder all around you, but you know that it will pass. You will not let the tribulations of life drag you into its chaos or uproot you. When you have mastery over yourself, you will have mastery over everything that happens to you in life.

 

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If you know deep down its silly to worry about hairloss, you should then know people who diss it are silly since the subject they are dissing is "ridiculous" as you say. Some here will tell you before they lost hair it never crossed their mind, or they never saw it on others etc etc. Sure i saw someone was bald but it didnt phase me anymore then when i saw a guy with hair. What im saying is if many here was like that so will many more out there. Will you see people dissing it? yes but look around you and tell me you dont see other things being dissed, hairstyles,clothes,goths,nerds,people with acne,disabilities,race,speech,grammar/spellings,where you are from so on and so on. Dont feel bad for how you feel you are human, i have OCD i worry every day, we just need to find away for it not to control us and damage our everyday life.
 

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I guess that dude is 21 and in school, but I always took care of my girls at the bar when I was that age. I was a baller though...
 

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I think you're misinterpreting the point i'm trying to get across. I'm not saying it's silly or ridiculous to worry hair loss, if I did i'd be a hypocrite. I'm not prosecuting anyone for being concerned about it, like I stated in previous posts; we're all human, and we are all entitled to our own feelings.

In your signature it says "Just a former sufferer trying to support the still suffering with problems related to mine (worrying about being judged, not liking oneself and similar topics)" but honestly, telling people it doesn't get better or all men with hair loss will be prosecuted isn't really helping them at all..

I too struggle with OCD (more obsessive than compulsive), body dysmorphic disorder, and generalized anxiety disorder.
I've just learned (through years of therapy, and having a great GF) to reframe my negative thoughts into positive ones; which in itself served as my motivating factor to reply to this thread to begin with.

I'm young i'll admit, I just don't want other young men out there thinking that they need to kill themselves, or do something drastic in an attempt to abolish the anxiety they feel.

Your closing sentence said: "we just need to find away for it not to control ourselves and damage our everyday life." --> This my friend is exactly what I'm trying to do.
Half full, not half empty remember.

Life is a s*** storm, but at the end of the day the only person that truly matters is yourself. If you cannot rely on yourself to be happy in your own skin, then you absolutely cannot expect other people to be happy with it either.
 

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I think you're misinterpreting the point i'm trying to get across. I'm not saying it's silly or ridiculous to worry hair loss, if I did i'd be a hypocrite. I'm not prosecuting anyone for being concerned about it, like I stated in previous posts; we're all human, and we are all entitled to our own feelings.

In your signature it says "Just a former sufferer trying to support the still suffering with problems related to mine (worrying about being judged, not liking oneself and similar topics)" but honestly, telling people it doesn't get better or all men with hair loss will be prosecuted isn't really helping them at all..

I too struggle with OCD (more obsessive than compulsive), body dysmorphic disorder, and generalized anxiety disorder.
I've just learned (through years of therapy, and having a great GF) to reframe my negative thoughts into positive ones; which in itself served as my motivating factor to reply to this thread to begin with.

I'm young i'll admit, I just don't want other young men out there thinking that they need to kill themselves, or do something drastic in an attempt to abolish the anxiety they feel.

Your closing sentence said: "we just need to find away for it not to control ourselves and damage our everyday life." --> This my friend is exactly what I'm trying to do.
Half full, not half empty remember.

Life is a s*** storm, but at the end of the day the only person that truly matters is yourself. If you cannot rely on yourself to be happy in your own skin, then you absolutely cannot expect other people to be happy with it either.
Would you still be so positive if you were single?
 

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I think you're misinterpreting the point i'm trying to get across. I'm not saying it's silly or ridiculous to worry hair loss, if I did i'd be a hypocrite. I'm not prosecuting anyone for being concerned about it, like I stated in previous posts; we're all human, and we are all entitled to our own feelings.

In your signature it says "Just a former sufferer trying to support the still suffering with problems related to mine (worrying about being judged, not liking oneself and similar topics)" but honestly, telling people it doesn't get better or all men with hair loss will be prosecuted isn't really helping them at all..

I too struggle with OCD (more obsessive than compulsive), body dysmorphic disorder, and generalized anxiety disorder.
I've just learned (through years of therapy, and having a great GF) to reframe my negative thoughts into positive ones; which in itself served as my motivating factor to reply to this thread to begin with.

I'm young i'll admit, I just don't want other young men out there thinking that they need to kill themselves, or do something drastic in an attempt to abolish the anxiety they feel.

Your closing sentence said: "we just need to find away for it not to control ourselves and damage our everyday life." --> This my friend is exactly what I'm trying to do.
Half full, not half empty remember.

Life is a s*** storm, but at the end of the day the only person that truly matters is yourself. If you cannot rely on yourself to be happy in your own skin, then you absolutely cannot expect other people to be happy with it either.

I was talking to worrywart dude, hence the whole "ridiculous" etc etc he says it. Sorry for the confusion i should of quoted him. And trust me i dont want people feeling down etc people here will tell you what im all about, why i put the signature since people didnt quite "get" me i guess.
 

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Would you still be so positive if you were single?

My GF said that what attracted her to me most was my confidence.

If you love yourself just know you'll never be alone man.
She knows that she isn't my everything, because if she was she probably wouldn't be attracted to me. Girls dont want to be a man's primary focus in life, they just want to follow on the path that he leads. She knows I love her, and I know she loves me; but she also knows that I will walk away from her if she ever violated my integrity, and I will let her walk when her heart is closed to me. She who can destroy you, controls you.
Don’t give her that power over yourself. Love yourself before you love her.


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I was talking to worrywart dude, hence the whole "ridiculous" etc etc he says it. Sorry for the confusion i should of quoted him. And trust me i dont want people feeling down etc people here will tell you what im all about, why i put the signature since people didnt quite "get" me i guess.

Ahhhh, my apologies my friend. Just a simple misunderstanding
 

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It's easy to be confident, practice "stoicism", and to love yourself when you are an Norwood 1.5, which is essentially no hair loss. If most of us here were an Norwood 1.5, we'd be out enjoying life and wouldn't be venting on a hair loss forum.
 

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I know it's ridiculous to be so hung up on hair. Deep down, I know that.

Danny I think already briefly covered this but yes, Digidako didn't get near to saying it's a "ridiculous" thought and you practically said he should not ever give advice to people about these issues.

It's not ridiculous to be so depressed about hair because nothing is "ridiculous" when it comes to a mental state, everyone is born with and conditioned to feel whatever, most of which is outside of their control and very difficult to fix. There's every chance that you'll never get over the topic of baldness, I'd even say some guys who regain a full head of hair through a hair transplant or whatever, will still feel resentment at lost years and unfair anxiety, but if you feel like this nearly all of the time, and it occupies your thoughts so much, then you should be working in different ways to alter your entire self-worth (assuming you aren't already doing so).

Don't take this a judgmental thing, I empathise enough to reply but I don't care that much, it's just that this is the choice, either do something to fix yourself outside of the obsession of hair loss, or don't. It's there, and if you don't, you'll continue feeling just as insecure, all of the time, as you do now.

I say you may never get over the topic of baldness when the thought hits you, but my main point is that it's un-natural that it should be hitting you at such a persistent level, and maybe you need other things to focus on. Even if other things won't make your anxiety over hair loss go away, it will at least make it feel smaller than the other things to be experienced in our existence.
 

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Danny I think already briefly covered this but yes, Digidako didn't get near to saying it's a "ridiculous" thought and you practically said he should not ever give advice to people about these issues.

I agree.
 
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