transitioning into dutas

[dem]

Hello all-
I have been reading a lot of these forums here and am concerned about how different each opinion is when transitioning from propecia to dutas. I myself will be making the change from propecia to dutas but will be making the transition off propecia gradually. I plan on taking the two together (.5 mg dutas everyday and propecia every other day) for a few weeks to a month before I completely phase out the propecia. My reasoning is that the duats is a different drug and I do not want to completely shock my system by removing the propecia completely and loose any hair gained by propecia.

I have seen a few profiles here where people are taking bot together and so far not seen anyone complain about any sides.

What are your thoughts on this? Anything would help. Thanks

 

[MPBWarrior]

don't take dutas every day.

 

[Guest]

don't take dutas every day.

stop telling people that. do you want them to end up in your situation or worse?

dem, i am on dutas 0.5 mg per day and it's fine. feel free to take that dose.

i took them together for two weeks and no sides. it's fine.

 

[dem]

I have finally received my dutas and will take it orally and topically. I am excited to see if this will help. I will try to track my results here on this site to inform everyone how effective dutas has been after taking propecia for 9 years. I'm wishing for the best, but don't have my hopes too far high.

 

[MPBWarrior]

Jayman, what do u mean my situation? i'm not exactly that bad. and i'm telling people not to take 0.5mg of dutasteride every day because it might be dangerous. they can easily take it once over 3 days or something and get almost the same effects on their hair and lower potential sides by much more.

 

[CCS]

once every three days would regrow about 20 fewer hairs per circular inch than once every day would, in the back at least.

I take it 3x per week to save money and because I think I saw a study that showed that the higher doses are not as effective in the front. I don't know if I believe that, but I think i should be fine if i'm using a topical AR inhibitor at the same time.

it is good to phase them in like that. 3x per week is much stronger than propecia each day. I would do 2x per week the first week, if I were worried about any shock. But I'm not. I just dive in and have never had sheds.

I really doubt that using it topically will do much good. You would be much better off buying oleic acid from http://www.chemistrystore.com, 1 gallon for $17 which is $25 after shipping. Keep it in the freezer and have a little in the fridge. Apply it to your head once a day. You can use a small amount if you want. It works like spironolactone and like finasteride, but to a weaker amount. If you want to use topical dutasteride, put it in the oleic acid and also add octyl salicate (check spelling). Old Baldy recently posted a link on where to buy it for $10. Add a bit in with the oleic acid, and it will increase finasteride absorption, and probably dutasteride, buy 10%.

 

[Guest]

Jayman, what do u mean my situation? i'm not exactly that bad. and i'm telling people not to take 0.5mg of dutasteride every day because it might be dangerous. they can easily take it once over 3 days or something and get almost the same effects on their hair and lower potential sides by much more.

0.5 mg of dutasteride is the recommended dosage. telling people that it's dangerous is irresponsible imo.

 

[dem]

Yeah, I agree Jayman. I thus far have never had any side effects while taking propecia and will take my .5 mg of dutas daily. I will also continue to take my propecia in half doses daily for the next few weeks. If I feel any sides, then I will discontinue the propecia. This really is my last hope as I have had aggressive male pattern baldness the last few months.

College, I may also look into the oleic acid soon. However, at this point, I would like to see if the minoxidil and dutas will grow any hairs before I add anything else to my regimen. Thanks for the link. If you do by chance come across that study about the higher doses not being as effective in front, then I would like to see it.

 

[TAINTED-MEAT]

I've been on Avodart daily for a month now, I'm fine. Avodart is approved for BPH, a prostate condition. If it is safe to use for that everyday, why would it not be safe to use for hair? I know people will say that 50% DHT in the brain could be an issue, but don't you think that the testers thought about this? Everyone knows alcohol kills brain cells, yet we still drink it and don't give a second thought!

Anyways, always see a doctor before getting on a medication that involves a prescription. It's just good protocol to get a professional's opinion.

 

[Old Baldy]

College: The attached MSDS states to avoid storing oleic acid in extreme heat or cold conditions. (See section 10, I think.) Maybe just add a tablespoon of BHT to a gallon and keep in the basement?

I know free fatty acids need freezer storage for the long haul but the Chemistry Store type of oleic acid apparently does not need to be stored in the freezer. In fact, it probably shouldn't.

This is another reason why I don't know for sure if the oleic acid sold at the Chemistry Store is pure enough to equal the free fatty acids in Revivogen?

Does Revivogen have to be stored in the refrigerator?

http://www.rose-hulman.edu/Class/cm/HTM ... id%20msds'

 

[Bryan]

College: The attached MSDS states to avoid storing oleic acid in extreme heat or cold conditions. (See section 10, I think.) Maybe just add a tablespoon of BHT to a gallon and keep in the basement?

I know free fatty acids need freezer storage for the long haul but the Chemistry Store type of oleic acid apparently does not need to be stored in the freezer. In fact, it probably shouldn't.

I'd freeze the hell out of it, along with using BHT. Maybe even use Private Preserve on the main bulk sitting in the freezer.

This is another reason why I don't know for sure if the oleic acid sold at the Chemistry Store is pure enough to equal the free fatty acids in Revivogen?

Does Revivogen have to be stored in the refrigerator?

I believe they suggest that if you have some extra unused bottles, keep them in the fridge, but keep each "working" bottle at room temperature. In other words, what they seem to be concerned about is having some of the liquid thicken or "freeze" under cold temperatures, and not having the user "thaw" it out enough prior to each daily use.

Bryan

 

[Old Baldy]

Bryan, the MSDS sheet said avoid extreme cold temperatures. I don't follow your freezing advice.

 

[Bryan]

I guess I don't care what the MSDS said. If it's pure oleic acid, I'd freeze the hell out of it. BTW, that's also the advice I got from the experts on sci.chemistry a few years ago when I asked them for their advice about the best way to store oxidation-sensitive fatty acids. They said freeze it solid! :wink: I think that statement on the MSDS was just a general "form" type of precaution. It didn't really have anything to do with specific chemical properties or knowledge of fatty acids.

Bryan