Trough the eyes of girl

gascoigne

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Hello everybody, hello Saf, Ucman, Ori, Lossitall, seb, Primo and other guys i talk with here.
I know most of boys here dont like me and consider me delusional, strange or maybe crazy, but it is important to give attention to text and arguments in it. In this post i am not saying what is GOOD, what is BAD, or what it should(not) be. I am just (trying) to sum up some facts.


LOOKS ARE IMPORTANT, VERY MUCH IMPORTANT. Both for men and women, there is nothing to be shame of for not beeing higly emotional, emphatic, spiritual angels full of understanding and love for everybody, that is our NATURE.
Beeing bald is NO WIN situation as MOST of women really dont like bald men.
Thats couse bald men CANT, UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES, look great! The best some lucky of us can is to look OK. Its nature, is simple: guy with hair and 5-6/10 face attributes IS LOT MORE ATTRACTIVE then 8-9/10 face att. bald guy. Due this significant handicap, bald men cant look GREAT or EXCELLENT.

That is imposible just by human nature. Hair IS part of face, its FRAME of face. Handsome man without hair is no longer handsome, he is *andsome :)
If you can catch my metaphor due the matter of lackness (lack hair - lack part of beauty - lack beginig of word).
Statham, Wilis, Diesel, etc etc etc - none of them look TRULY EXCELLENT. They look ok/good becouse they normal and proper face and head shapes, and becouse of their great bodies. Why they are sex symbols and whay they get lot hot women, thats totally different and aestethicaly irrelevant subject. (If they were just ordinary, anoniomus guys, all that media constructed attraction would vanish.)


It is not how i see it, its how GIRLS and LADIES see it. (TBH, in my opinion a guy with NW4-5 not buzzed of hair is non bald to me). Since all women are not the same, then i mean talking from position of 70-80% girls and ladies.
Further, 90% of ALL average and above average females (sorry for not inducting ugly and unattractive girls, bu we need to be honest, no one would want them if there is a choice) are SHALLOW and VAIN. In some degree.
Hot and not so inteligent young girls will stay equally shalow when she get in her 40is and 50is. Hot and inteligent girls will loss some of their vanity as they get older.
So, in terms of young (19-26) good and above looking girls, they DO find developed (or advanced) NW3 (majority of front and first half of top hair gone) BALD and unattractive. Sure, there are exepctions, but my 5 years expirience of talking, dating and having sex with many wmen (respectively) learned me so.
I am talking from a perspective of true, basic sexual appeal and attraction. When it comes to trying to make a serious, long term relationship (as people get older most of them are forced to lower expectations) then this statistic may not be correct and sure normal NW3 (or even 4) shouldnt have big troubles with finding nice and honest life partner.

Now, the numeric version:

Norwood 1-2(2.5) : Ok, with hair

[Norwood 3 (at fist phase and not buzzed off or shaved): ok, with (tolerable) hair]

Norwood 3 (developed phase with, buzzed or not, no or VERY high hairline and not much hair on top): Bald

[Norwood 2-early 3 (with visible, not even large spot on vertex/ no receeding hairline and no significant thining/ early phase of Zidane male pattern baldness): Bald

Norwood 4-7 (buzzed/shaved or not): Bald.

In other words, LADIES ARE MAKING THIS VERY HARD FOR US. THEY ARE SO SHALLOW AND VAIN, AND THAT IS JUST A TRUTH. I wish i could change that.
 

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gascoigne said:
In other words, LADIES ARE MAKING THIS VERY HARD FOR US. THEY ARE SO SHALLOW AND VAIN, AND THAT IS JUST A TRUTH. I wish i could change that.

For "us"?? Speaks a guy who has barealy any hairloss :whistle:
 

Pyro

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but my 5 years expirience of talking, dating and having sex with many wmen (respectively) learned me so.

LOLOLOLOLOLOL
 

gascoigne

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Pyro said:
but my 5 years expirience of talking, dating and having sex with many wmen (respectively) learned me so.

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

I cant see what is funny there?
You may think i am lying, but why should i lie?
What kind of reward or social bonus can i get talking about that on this forum, under nickname?
 

Jockson

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Isn't it a bit hypocritical to first admit going bald makes us much less attractive and then go on to say good looking girls are shallow because they don't accept baldness?

Either way, I agree being bald is a no win situation. By losing hair your, the percentage of females that find you attractive goes down dramatically, there is no doubt about that. However, there's a lot more to physical attractiveness than just hair so IMO, it's not really as simple as NW3=bald=unattractive. Compare a tall, muscular guy with good facial features and a buzzed NW3 to a skinny, short, pale and nerdy looking guy with a NW3 as well. Obviously a huge difference. The former will probably also be at least just as attractive to most women than an average guy with a full head of hair.
 

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Maystor said:
Isn't it a bit hypocritical to first admit going bald makes us much less attractive and then go on to say good looking girls are shallow because they don't accept baldness?

Either way, I agree being bald is a no win situation. By losing hair your, the percentage of females that find you attractive goes down dramatically, there is no doubt about that. However, there's a lot more to physical attractiveness than just hair so IMO, it's not really as simple as NW3=bald=unattractive. Compare a tall, muscular guy with good facial features and a buzzed NW3 to a skinny, short, pale and nerdy looking guy with a NW3 as well. Obviously a huge difference. The former will probably also be at least just as attractive to most women than an average guy with a full head of hair.

I see what you are saying. It truth. But its rare.
Take a look at this proportion:

"Its nature, is simple: guy with hair and 5-6/10 face attributes IS LOT MORE ATTRACTIVE then 8-9/10 face att. bald guy."
 

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While being in shape is never a bad thing, baldness can even upstage a great body. I'm talking nw5 here, not 3. I can hear "those" type of women saying, "He's got a rockin body BUT, he's bald so eww.". They would take a normal (cute) guy with a full head of hair over a buft Mr. Clean any day.
 

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You can't really blame women for not wanting too have a relationship with a bald man.We just don't look good,thats the s**t and giggles of it.
The bottom line is,we are here too procreate.Baldness is seen(and should be) as a major physical flaw,thus why would a woman choose a bald man,when there are plenty of "normal" looking men around.
 

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Well one thing's for sure, baldness or no baldness, with that kind of whiney, feeling-sorry-for-oneself attitude (Gascoigne) you will have absolutely no chance of attracting "hot or very attractive" girls EVER.

Man Up!..... or at the very least go see a therapist about your issues.
 

gascoigne

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seb said:
You can't really blame women for not wanting too have a relationship with a bald man.We just don't look good,thats the s**t and giggles of it.
The bottom line is,we are here too procreate.Baldness is seen(and should be) as a major physical flaw,thus why would a woman choose a bald man,when there are plenty of "normal" looking men around.

Same things i sad Seb.
I dont blame them.
 

gascoigne

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Primo said:
Well one thing's for sure, baldness or no baldness, with that kind of whiney, feeling-sorry-for-oneself attitude (Gascoigne) you will have absolutely no chance of attracting "hot or very attractive" girls EVER.

Man Up!..... or at the very least go see a therapist about your issues.

I didnt mention myself anywhere Primo.
Those are just facts.
 

uncomfortable man

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Primo said:
Well one thing's for sure, baldness or no baldness, with that kind of whiney, feeling-sorry-for-oneself attitude (Gascoigne) you will have absolutely no chance of attracting "hot or very attractive" girls EVER.

Man Up!..... or at the very least go see a therapist about your issues.

While I understand the sentiment in theory, when there are no viable ways out of the situation you are for the most part screwed between a rock and a hard place. I think most people would be reasonably depressed about it to be fair.
 

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uncomfortable man said:
Primo said:
Well one thing's for sure, baldness or no baldness, with that kind of whiney, feeling-sorry-for-oneself attitude (Gascoigne) you will have absolutely no chance of attracting "hot or very attractive" girls EVER.

Man Up!..... or at the very least go see a therapist about your issues.

While I understand the sentiment in theory, when there are no viable ways out of the situation you are for the most part screwed between a rock and a hard place. I think most people would be reasonably depressed about it to be fair.

UCman, while I obviously understand and appreciate your situation, I was mainly directing that post at Gascoigne + other NW2/NW3 posters, who constantly whine about their life being over because of a little recession/diffusion etc etc... creating new threads every day, full of ultra negative sh*t that even HPM would struggle to match (at least he has valid reasons to feel like that)

From the looks of things Gascoigne still has very decent hair in that avatar pic and as a NW3 myself with recession and mild diffuse hair at the front, I feel the need to pull him up on this constant barrage of pointlessly negative threads he brings to the forum.

I can testify that my last 4 years (spent mostly in NW3 territory) have been by far the most fruitful of my life girls-wise. I've truly had a fantastic time and been involved with hotter girls than I ever could have imagined back when I was a shy, 17yr old NW1.

Who knows, as the male pattern baldness wiseman Gascoigne predicts, maybe the world as I know it will end the day I hit NW4, but for now while I'm in NW3ville, I'm going to enjoy life and not waste my time bitching about "discrimination" and "stigma" that simply doesn't exist or is extremely rare at worst.
 

gascoigne

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No one is getting me right!

I DONT SAY THAT NW3 (ADVANCED OR NOT), NW4, 5, 6, 7 ARE END OF THE WORLD!!!
Theye are not even END OF DATING DAYS.


I just said that GIRL ARE GENERALY UNATTRACTED TO BALD GUYS (NW3 WITH SIGNIFICANT THINING, AND NW3-NW7).
It doesnt even mean that boys cant hang up with them; i consider unattractive all girls that dont have BIG breasts, but i could date and have sex with girls who have decent/average brests, accompanied with her other good attributes.
 

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Gascoigne,you have very high standards for the girls you deem are acceptable too you.What happens when you don't match up to the standards of women?
 

gascoigne

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seb said:
Gascoigne,you have very high standards for the girls you deem are acceptable too you.What happens when you don't match up to the standards of women?

Good question.
Before my hairloss, i matched almost every standard. Not everyones, but most of.
Now, with thining front , i am already loosing part of my market and having less standards i match.
When i loss my hair significantly, i will match only few standards. I know that,i am realistic.
 

seb

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You are very c*** sure of yourself.Going bald is just what you need too bring you down a peg or two.
 

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Primo said:
Well one thing's for sure, baldness or no baldness, with that kind of whiney, feeling-sorry-for-oneself attitude (Gascoigne) you will have absolutely no chance of attracting "hot or very attractive" girls EVER.

Man Up!..... or at the very least go see a therapist about your issues.


They'll never actually realize it because they're not actual men. Theyve unfortunately been feminized to the max for whatever reasons. sometimes its hilarious sometimes it's just a scratch your head kind of thing.
 

barcafan

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seb said:
You are very c*** sure of yourself.Going bald is just what you need too bring you down a peg or two.

judging from his posts (if he's not taking the piss) it's pretty clear he has a psychological disorder or three, aspergers possibly being one of them
 

seb

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He certainly has some kind of egotistical personality,a superior complex too everyone else.The worrying thing is,he doesn't realise. lol
 
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