Welp... Starting month 8

Stingray

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And STILL nothing really to say. Crown is pretty much where it's been since I started. But my temples are shooting back again to where they were 7 months ago. Had some really good thickening...to the point where it was unnoticeable.... but then bam, all the results were gone and noticeable thinning has once again occurred in the frontal area. I had the most unbelieveably intense shed I could possibly have imagined between the months of july and the end of september. Must have lost a good 50% of the frontal density. The good part is I can still hide my thinning, but not too well.

I'd attest the thinning to me having to stop propecia due to lack of money, but that was only 3 weeks ago... I've got 60 tabs of fincar on order from generic whatchamacallit online...but their pay system dicked me and never passed on my information...yet they still took my money. So I'm expecting it within the month. And when I get to sending in my exam with Dr. Lee.. I'ma start minoxidil 12% and 5% Azelaic acid lotion on the front to see how it works. Although one good thing I've found... Saw palmetto works wonders for me. Was overdosing on the sh*t... like 1280mg a day... stopped my shedding in 3 weeks. But keep in mind, this is just me. I'm probably also going to try 2.5mg finasteride a day to see if that helps bring my DHT levels down to a respectable level.

Needless to say, I'm kinda doubting the effectiveness of the stuff I've been spending my life savings on. Any additional pointers would be really nice. I'd like to feel good about myself one last time before I just say "f*** it" and let it all go.

Hasta-
 

Diddy

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hey i'm in the same boat as you kinda, my temple (just the one really) keeps getting crappier, but i dunno man, i still got hope. In my case everything has just kinda stopped. My hair seems to be growing really slow lately (like i cut my hair 5 weeks ago, and usually i'm due for a haircut, but it looks like i got it cut more like 2 weeks ago).Maybe its just a calm before the storm (either good storm or....)
I've read posts from lots of guys who didn't see much till the 11th-12th months. Also watch the saw man, saw can cause some major side effects for a natural remedy, including of course Gyno.Plus i dunno if theres any documented benefit to taking more then 320mg daily.
 

Stingray

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Well, I've been taking saw for the past 7 months with no problem. I'm willing to use my body as a guinnea pig for a while also. I'm not worried about side effects... I want to test my limits anyways.

Only one noticeable thing with the saw palmetto. I'm noticing the mood swings. Some days I can be in the best of moods...other days I'd be a little b**ch. But it is helping somewhat. I'll find a good level eventually.

I'm not quitting untill I see no results after a year and a half. I'm in no rush to give up.
 

Lizzad

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I stopped finasteride a couple of weeks ago & i seem to be having a minor shed right now. We were led to believe that once stopping fina, ones male pattern baldness progresses as natural & there isn't the shed one would expect from quitting minoxidil.

I got my order of minoxidil & topical 2% spironolactone this morning, ordered on Thursday last week, so that ain't bad for air mail. Why not give it a try in a month or two if things don't improve.

$15 per 60ml bottle from wholesalehairproducts, can't beat that! I'll be starting in at the end of this month.
 

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Stingray said:
And STILL nothing really to say. Crown is pretty much where it's been since I started. But my temples are shooting back again to where they were 7 months ago. Had some really good thickening...to the point where it was unnoticeable.... but then bam, all the results were gone and noticeable thinning has once again occurred in the frontal area. I had the most unbelieveably intense shed I could possibly have imagined between the months of july and the end of september. Must have lost a good 50% of the frontal density. The good part is I can still hide my thinning, but not too well.

I'd attest the thinning to me having to stop propecia due to lack of money, but that was only 3 weeks ago... I've got 60 tabs of fincar on order from generic whatchamacallit online...but their pay system dicked me and never passed on my information...yet they still took my money. So I'm expecting it within the month. And when I get to sending in my exam with Dr. Lee.. I'ma start minoxidil 12% and 5% Azelaic acid lotion on the front to see how it works. Although one good thing I've found... Saw palmetto works wonders for me. Was overdosing on the sh*t... like 1280mg a day... stopped my shedding in 3 weeks. But keep in mind, this is just me. I'm probably also going to try 2.5mg finasteride a day to see if that helps bring my DHT levels down to a respectable level.

Needless to say, I'm kinda doubting the effectiveness of the stuff I've been spending my life savings on. Any additional pointers would be really nice. I'd like to feel good about myself one last time before I just say "f*** it" and let it all go.

Hasta-

Saw P seems to work for me too. After I stopped for 2 weeks I noticed more shedding, maybe not a direct relation but it was interesting to see happen. My dose is 640mg a day.
 

Stingray

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It's strange. 2 weeks after initially starting saw palmetto 7 months ago, my hairloss totally stopped. I mean 6 hairs in the shower...1 on the pillow MAYBE. I ran out of it back in late june... and that's when the shedding started again. 2 months later, and still shedding like a dog, I remembered that I was taking saw palmetto, so I decided to buy some more. Sho' nuff...3 weeks later shedding subsided again. Even WITHOUT propecia.

I believe that the saw palmetto is helping with the shedding, but not with the thinning. I'll need something stronger for that. spironolactone here I come =\
 

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Damn sting, I remember reading that you were doing so good not too long ago. I bet it was the propecia whe you stopped. If I stop even for a day I notice a serious reversal effect. Hang in there bud, I think within a couple of years something good will come out for us very genetic balders, I know Cali is a shitty place to be while thinning, but i think your young like me and we can make a comeback someday. Today I went to the mall and felt like I was 46 instead of 26, have faith tho brotha.... :)
 

Stingray

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Faith is not a commodity I have much left of. Every single hair on the top of my scalp has thinned noticeably. I guess I just didn't notice it much. I'm one of those "going bald overnight" sort of guys. The stuff is staving it off, but barely. Just slowed it down to almost horribly fast. I'm doubling up on everything right now. Double dose of Saw Palmetto, double dose of minoxidil, and when I get it...a double dose of finasteride. If that doesn't help... then I'm royally fucked :)

But whatever.
 
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Stingray said:
Faith is not a commodity I have much left of. Every single hair on the top of my scalp has thinned noticeably. I guess I just didn't notice it much. I'm one of those "going bald overnight" sort of guys. The stuff is staving it off, but barely. Just slowed it down to almost horribly fast. I'm doubling up on everything right now. Double dose of Saw Palmetto, double dose of minoxidil, and when I get it...a double dose of finasteride. If that doesn't help... then I'm royally fucked :)

But whatever.

Sting, using Folligen at all?
 

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Stingray said:
Faith is not a commodity I have much left of. Every single hair on the top of my scalp has thinned noticeably. I guess I just didn't notice it much. I'm one of those "going bald overnight" sort of guys. The stuff is staving it off, but barely. Just slowed it down to almost horribly fast. I'm doubling up on everything right now. Double dose of Saw Palmetto, double dose of minoxidil, and when I get it...a double dose of finasteride. If that doesn't help... then I'm royally fucked :)

But whatever.

There's always dutasteride. And since you're testing your limits, might as well give it a shot. It's worked wonders for some people who didn't respond well to finny-finasteride.

D.
 

Stingray

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Not yet Bruce... I just might throw that in though. I'll give it a few more months to see how things turn around first though. I got some hope last night after the double-dose of minoxidil. I'm putting 1mL on the temples, and 1mL on the crown. I KNOW I was advocating only 1mL for the entire scalp, but after 8 months of trial and, unfortunately, no success, it's time to bring in the heavy artillary. Anyways..after the megadose of minoxidil I got something I haven't got in almost 8 months... minoxidil irritation! That's a sign that it's penetrating the scalp. Although I noticed I was breathing a little heavier than normal. I'll just see if it passes.

And rummy, I'd start dutasteride, but I honestly just can't afford it. I'm buying generic forms of everything right now... hell, I'm almost buying generic saw palmetto. Plus I'm REALLY not too keen on using a chemical for something other than what it's designed for.

I'll keep ya'all posted.
 
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Stingray said:
Not yet Bruce... I just might throw that in though. I'll give it a few more months to see how things turn around first though. I got some hope last night after the double-dose of minoxidil. I'm putting 1mL on the temples, and 1mL on the crown. I KNOW I was advocating only 1mL for the entire scalp, but after 8 months of trial and, unfortunately, no success, it's time to bring in the heavy artillary. Anyways..after the megadose of minoxidil I got something I haven't got in almost 8 months... minoxidil irritation! That's a sign that it's penetrating the scalp. Although I noticed I was breathing a little heavier than normal. I'll just see if it passes.

And rummy, I'd start dutasteride, but I honestly just can't afford it. I'm buying generic forms of everything right now... hell, I'm almost buying generic saw palmetto. Plus I'm REALLY not too keen on using a chemical for something other than what it's designed for.

I'll keep ya'all posted.

Good luck!

I am a re-convert to folligen lately. I had been having what was for me a bit of a shed (about 15 hairs in the sink each day).

I started using folligen again and within days I am back to about 3-5 hairs. Also, my hair looks and feels so much better.

Anway, go for it guy!

:rockon:
 

Lizzad

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Double dose of Saw Palmetto, double dose of minoxidil, and when I get it...a double dose of finasteride. If that doesn't help... then I'm royally fucked

All hail King Sting :rockon:
 
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