What hopes do we have now?

[IvanXproject]

After the somewhat dissapointing results from Samumed (seems like they have to do phase II over again), I am starting to wonder if we really have any hopes left... What hopes do we really have now? Kerastem?

 

[bbbeeeppp2]

After the somewhat dissapointing results from Samumed (seems like they have to do phase II over again), I am starting to wonder if we really have any hopes left... What hopes do we really have now? Kerastem?

Histogen?

 

[Bad_Wolve]

in the short run i think kerastem is the last chance we hace. cb can give also superior results, but they have to find the right vehicle. this will take long time until it gets on the market. histogens before and ofter pics are the worst i´ve ever seen. different angles and combed over. i really belive that the cure will come out of nowhere, nothing we are waiting in the moment for will it be.

 

[buckthorn]

After the somewhat dissapointing results from Samumed (seems like they have to do phase II over again), I am starting to wonder if we really have any hopes left... What hopes do we really have now? Kerastem?

there's no hope brother.. doesn't anyone get it by now? This is simply a very cruel joke God is playing on us. I mean, there has to be a lesson to learn somewhere in this misery!!

 

[distracted]

Did people actually think Samumed was going to be a cure? Still looking forward to Replicel mostly.

 

[firstpost]

There wont be any cure any time soon. Best hope is to have different treatments targeting different angles - anti-androgen angle(finasteride, cb, etc), WNT angle(sm), pgd2 angle(seti, other), etc.

 

[Swoop]

A miracle, that is your hope.

 

[InBeforeTheCure]

Gene therapy?

 

[Xaser94]

Lol, biology is increasing at a rate faster than moore's law. We should relax, there will be something soon. And it may just come out of no where

 

[g.i joey]

^ you're definitely the first person that said this.

 

[Xaser94]

^ you're definitely the first person that said this.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/matthew...g-moores-law-since-january-2008/#77e33df169cb

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnHD8gvccpI

"Biology is being reduced in cost 5-6 times faster than Moore's Law" Why Bio is the New Digital - Joi Ito keynote

Desmond put up that second link first.

 

[abcdefg]

Did people actually think Samumed was going to be a cure? Still looking forward to Replicel mostly.

I dont know about cure, but higher hopes than the results were? Sure. male pattern baldness is going to be something you need to use 8 different treatments together to get decent results. I think a cure is a long long ways away

 

[Giiizmo]

http://www.forbes.com/sites/matthew...g-moores-law-since-january-2008/#77e33df169cb

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnHD8gvccpI

"Biology is being reduced in cost 5-6 times faster than Moore's Law" Why Bio is the New Digital - Joi Ito keynote

Desmond put up that second link first.

That's cute. Allow me to take a big fat dump on your optimism, or at least, to put things in perspective.

Here's a rhetorical question: can you name me one medical breakthrough of these past few decades that constitutes a change in paradigm? My answer? From someone who dabbled in med school for four years and still has ties with the medical world, I'm willing to bet that you can't come up with a single thing.

Vaccines - 19th century
Morphine - 19th
Organ transplants - late 19th (I'm aware that further improvements allowed for more organ types)
X-ray - early 20th
Antibiotics - early 20th
Insulin therapy - early 20th
Aspirin - early 20th
Antidepressants - mid-20th
Birth control as a pill - mid-20th

And no, I don't count v**** as a paradigm-changer, especially since its discovery was fortuitious, nor statins for hypercholesterolemia, their efficacy being questionable, nor any other "medication" that's designed to counteract diseases that stem from an ailing lifestyle like so-called "metabolic syndrome".

There is still no cure for cancer - chemo and radiations are sometimes worse than the illness itself -, nor for HIV, Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, cystic fibrosis, multiple sclerosis, arthritis, etc.

The news media keep feeding people bullsh-t of so-called miraculous cures, gene therapy and silver bullets that are just a few years away, as they've done for the past 30 years but the truth is there's nothing coming out for decades still. Nevermind growing back a single fvcking follicle. So enough of this blind optimism already.

 

[Ori83]

I've been on these sites for almost a decade now, back then they said in couple of years theyll surly have a cure. even then, old posters like myslef today showed posts date years back that stated clearly "5 years for a cure".
im almost 33 yo now, i can tell you that in the last 15 years at least they keep stating the same bs over and over again. there is no cure, neither there will be, but its intresting to follow on the slow progression.

Now, lets assume they fing a cure today. add 4-6years of trails, add 1-2 years for clinics to adopt the technology,add couple more years for price drops and for some adjustments and improvments in treatment. add a year for you hair to grow fully... we're talking here 7-8 years from now to get an available and effordable treatment... at worse case 10-11 years. (remember...that is *if* they find a cure *today*!)

 

[Notcoolanymore]

Our last hope is in laser technology. If it doesn't work then we're ****ed.

 

[Bad_Wolve]

I've been on these sites for almost a decade now, back then they said in couple of years theyll surly have a cure. even then, old posters like myslef today showed posts date years back that stated clearly "5 years for a cure".
im almost 33 yo now, i can tell you that in the last 15 years at least they keep stating the same bs over and over again. there is no cure, neither there will be, but its intresting to follow on the slow progression.

Now, lets assume they fing a cure today. add 4-6years of trails, add 1-2 years for clinics to adopt the technology,add couple more years for price drops and for some adjustments and improvments in treatment. add a year for you hair to grow fully... we're talking here 7-8 years from now to get an available and effordable treatment... at worse case 10-11 years. (remember...that is *if* they find a cure *today*!)

it is really unbelieveable. we are living in times of the industrialization. it is unbelieveable how the world changed in every areas. but all what the hair loss sufferes got, is about 15 years old and was just an accident. nothing came to market which arised out of the hair loss research. maybe hair loss is a punishment from a former life and god don´t allows to cure it, i have no other explanations left...

 

[macbeth81]

There was more optimism 10 years ago and nothing materialized.

Even if the cure was found tomorrow, I will be over 40 before it can complete FDA approval.

It is clear with RepliCel, even the Japanese with their new regulations still move at the speed of government.

 

[lessloss]

I think that the breakthroughs will need to come from these kinds of forums where people are educated, experimenting, doing testing and investing for years. The industrial medical firms have so many hoops to jump through and limited budgets for products that take years to market and develop.

 

[distracted]

I think that the breakthroughs will need to come from these kinds of forums where people are educated, experimenting, doing testing and investing for years. The industrial medical firms have so many hoops to jump through and limited budgets for products that take years to market and develop.

That's never going to happen. Trust me I wish, but this is a pipe dream.