What Is The Situation With That Miracle Drug Way316606?

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Does anyone know what is the situation with that drug? I know in articles they were saying that it is a cure....
 

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Everyone keep in mind that the big discoveries that come out twice per year are many years away from mass production. I think some think that they will be fast tracked and available within a year or two. Unfortunately that is not the case. Sad
 

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Everyone keep in mind that the big discoveries that come out twice per year are many years away from mass production. I think some think that they will be fast tracked and available within a year or two. Unfortunately that is not the case. Sad

That is good, atleast they are still trying to make it work, I thought that the drug was dropped as a baldness cure.
 

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There is no miracle drug/cure on the way. Lower your expectations for everything you read about. Just pray to the hair gods that we get something that works better than the big 3. Only cure I can think of is gene editing long after we’re all dead and bald in our caskets, and/or cremated.
 

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The period of 2016 - 2018 or so when everyone was so ecstatic and naysayers were shunned should really be studied by psychologists for crowd/herd behavior.

It’s pretty remarkable the difference in people’s attitudes then vs now. A few years ago virtually everyone was convinced that 2020 was really going to do it for virtually everyone - through one or more new treatments. Now even Tsuji is viewed with skepticism.
 

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Some China labs sells WAY , but for some reason nobody try this ... I dont understand because nobody experiment with this , the theory says that it is promising

The period of 2016 - 2018 or so when everyone was so ecstatic and naysayers were shunned should really be studied by psychologists for crowd/herd behavior.

It’s pretty remarkable the difference in people’s attitudes then vs now. A few years ago virtually everyone was convinced that 2020 was really going to do it for virtually everyone - through one or more new treatments. Now even Tsuji is viewed with skepticism.

Sammumed is planned for turkish market in 2020 , hopefully surpass the 2 old and useless drugs of the whole life
 

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Some China labs sells WAY , but for some reason nobody try this ... I dont understand because nobody experiment with this , the theory says that it is promising



Sammumed is planned for turkish market in 2020 , hopefully surpass the 2 old and useless drugs of the whole life

People have tried this. There was even a group buy. I read that it worked, but nothing too groundbreaking for the price.
 

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The period of 2016 - 2018 or so when everyone was so ecstatic and naysayers were shunned should really be studied by psychologists for crowd/herd behavior.

It’s pretty remarkable the difference in people’s attitudes then vs now. A few years ago virtually everyone was convinced that 2020 was really going to do it for virtually everyone - through one or more new treatments. Now even Tsuji is viewed with skepticism.

They will eventually learn to lower their expectations. They haven’t been constantly disappointed enough times. Some people don’t get that they don’t have to lose all hope and stop coming to this forum, all they have to do is calm the hell down (all the way down) with their high *** expectations, calling everything a cure. Everything. Just chill with the “cure is coming”, “this might be the cure folks”, “Welp, the cure is 5 years away, coming to market in Mars my dudes”.
 

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I don’t think it’s too complex psychologically. Just from my perspective, it caused me severe depression and anxiety, and honestly suicidal ideation to think too much about losing my hair, so I latch on to any kind of positive outlook of possible treatments, because if not what am I waking up and slogging through every day for?
 

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I don’t think it’s too complex psychologically. Just from my perspective, it caused me severe depression and anxiety, and honestly suicidal ideation to think too much about losing my hair, so I latch on to any kind of positive outlook of possible treatments, because if not what am I waking up and slogging through every day for?

It has caused you severe *sadness, not depression. Depression is a physical sickness in the brain that you’re born with and it doesn’t matter if you’re rich, poor, have a NW0 or a NW7, if you suffer from depression, you will always be depressed unless you take medication for it to balance out the chemicals in your brain that is causing depression, or fix your thyroid issues. Now if you’re saying that you indeed suffer from medical depression and that the hair loss doesn’t make things any better, I can see that. But you can have a nice loving wife, nice kids, make good money, have a nice home, have nice hair, good looks and still be depressed. It’s a disease, like cancer or vitiligo, or thyroid disease.

Depression is not triggered by hair loss, sadness is triggered by hair loss. If having hair again would make you happy again, then you were never depressed to begin with, you were just sad.

If thinking about a hair loss cure relieves your “depression” a little bit, then sorry, you’re not depressed. Depression is a very serious illness that is still not fully understood by the majority of the public. It is still downplayed and interchanged with sadness. When it is actually a real, physical issue in the brain that needs actual treatment. Real depression doesn’t go away once we solve our first-world problem.
 

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It has caused you severe *sadness, not depression. Depression is a physical sickness in the brain that you’re born with and it doesn’t matter if you’re rich, poor, have a NW0 or a NW7, if you suffer from depression, you will always be depressed unless you take medication for it to balance out the chemicals in your brain that is causing depression, or fix your thyroid issues. Now if you’re saying that you indeed suffer from medical depression and that the hair loss doesn’t make things any better, I can see that. But you can have a nice loving wife, nice kids, make good money, have a nice home, have nice hair, good looks and still be depressed. It’s a disease, like cancer or vitiligo, or thyroid disease.

Depression is not triggered by hair loss, sadness is triggered by hair loss. If having hair again would make you happy again, then you were never depressed to begin with, you were just sad.

If thinking about a hair loss cure relieves your “depression” a little bit, then sorry, you’re not depressed. Depression is a very serious illness that is still not fully understood by the majority of the public. It is still downplayed and interchanged with sadness. When it is actually a real, physical issue in the brain that needs actual treatment. Real depression doesn’t go away once we solve our first-world problem.

It is not implausible that hair loss can lead to depression since "learned helplessness" is one of the leading cognitive behavioral theories of depression. Since one often cannot effect any change vis-a-vis one's hair situation, it can become internalized and lead to faulty cognitive processes which cascade out of control. I do agree however that, even if the preceding were the case, gaining one's hair back would not necessarily cause the depression to subside, since once the thought processes are internalized and the neurotransmitter and other physiological changes have occurred it's exceedingly difficult to reverse.
 

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It is not implausible that hair loss can lead to depression since "learned helplessness" is one of the leading cognitive behavioral theories of depression. Since one often cannot effect any change vis-a-vis one's hair situation, it can become internalized and lead to faulty cognitive processes which cascade out of control. I do agree however that, even if the preceding were the case, gaining one's hair back would not necessarily cause the depression to subside, since once the thought processes are internalized and the neurotransmitter and other physiological changes have occurred it's exceedingly difficult to reverse.

People throw around depression like it’s nothing. It’s a serious illness that is hereditary and eliminating your “problems” will not make depression go away. The way depression is thrown around is the equivalent of someone who has the flu and they go around saying they have cancer.

There’s nothing wrong with saying that hair loss makes you really sad and hurt, and having hair again would make you happy. It’s wrong to say that hair loss gave you a physical, hereditary brain disease and that growing your hair back would cure this disease.

Having hair to begin with wouldn’t have prevented the “depressed” person from finding some other reason to be depressed about. Depression doesn’t need a reason. The majority don’t understand this yet. You don’t need a reason to be depressed.
 

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People throw around depression like it’s nothing. It’s a serious illness that is hereditary and eliminating your “problems” will not make depression go away. The way depression is thrown around is the equivalent of someone who has the flu and they go around saying they have cancer.

There’s nothing wrong with saying that hair loss makes you really sad and hurt, and having hair again would make you happy. It’s wrong to say that hair loss gave you a physical, hereditary brain disease and that growing your hair back would cure this disease.

Having hair to begin with wouldn’t have prevented the “depressed” person from finding some other reason to be depressed about. Depression doesn’t need a reason. The majority don’t understand this yet. You don’t need a reason to be depressed.

I've had clinical depression in the past, read about and thought about it for years in a futile attempt to analyze my way out of it, and am extremely well-versed in psychology and neuroscience. What I said is entirely possible. I'm not saying it IS the case, but it certainly is possible that hair loss could lead to legitimate depression via the mechanism I cited. As noted, gaining one's hair back (or, in general, remediating whatever the precipitating factor was) would not necessarily get rid of the depression. Depression usually has a trigger, but is not reducible to or proportionate with that trigger. The most correct thing you said above is that a person who is genetically or behavorially prone to depression would likely end up finding a different "reason" as a trigger. That is likely true as far as it goes. And of course there are extreme cases of physiological neurotransmitter impairment where CBT does not hold sway at all.
 

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It has caused you severe *sadness, not depression. Depression is a physical sickness in the brain that you’re born with and it doesn’t matter if you’re rich, poor, have a NW0 or a NW7, if you suffer from depression, you will always be depressed unless you take medication for it to balance out the chemicals in your brain that is causing depression, or fix your thyroid issues. Now if you’re saying that you indeed suffer from medical depression and that the hair loss doesn’t make things any better, I can see that. But you can have a nice loving wife, nice kids, make good money, have a nice home, have nice hair, good looks and still be depressed. It’s a disease, like cancer or vitiligo, or thyroid disease.

Depression is not triggered by hair loss, sadness is triggered by hair loss. If having hair again would make you happy again, then you were never depressed to begin with, you were just sad.

If thinking about a hair loss cure relieves your “depression” a little bit, then sorry, you’re not depressed. Depression is a very serious illness that is still not fully understood by the majority of the public. It is still downplayed and interchanged with sadness. When it is actually a real, physical issue in the brain that needs actual treatment. Real depression doesn’t go away once we solve our first-world problem.

Um, this is mostly bullshit. The chemical imbalance theory is just that, a theory. I'm very aware if clinical depression thank you, and have seen multiple therapists. I actually find it pretty offensive for you to say "i'm just sad. You've not experienced any sort of depression if you truly beleive that. Don't try to tel me how I feel and how my mental health is. There is no consensus on the causes of depression. Feel free to check the science behind it if you like. The success of SSRI's fairly low.
 

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People throw around depression like it’s nothing. It’s a serious illness that is hereditary and eliminating your “problems” will not make depression go away. The way depression is thrown around is the equivalent of someone who has the flu and they go around saying they have cancer.

There’s nothing wrong with saying that hair loss makes you really sad and hurt, and having hair again would make you happy. It’s wrong to say that hair loss gave you a physical, hereditary brain disease and that growing your hair back would cure this disease.

Having hair to begin with wouldn’t have prevented the “depressed” person from finding some other reason to be depressed about. Depression doesn’t need a reason. The majority don’t understand this yet. You don’t need a reason to be depressed.

Also I've attempted suicide in the past, so don't tell me that I wasn't depressed. And it is absolutely not hereditary, there is zero evidence for this.
 
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