Why can't you all just accept the truth?

[theangryone]

Why are the following facts so hard to accept?

1) Women care about looks as much as men if not more.
2) Women will reject a man they are not physically attracted to no matter how much "confidence" they have.
3) Very noticeable male pattern baldness (NW3 for some, NW4 for others) instantly makes 98 percent of guys ugly.
4) The remaining 2 percent are guys with very very good facial structure, but if you're not getting women, you're not in that 2 percent and that's all there is to it. BTW these guys are attractive in spite of going bald, and they were more attractive before they lost their hair, it's just they went from a 10/10 to a 6/10 or something like that.
5) Balding men who are married are either:
a: are getting used for money, or
b: are guys who got married before they started balding (at least severely), but their wives are no longer attracted to them and probably seldom give it up anymore (at least not to the balding hubby...but the younger pretty boy they have on the side on the other hand...)

If women reject you, it's not your confidence, it's not your approach, it's not your "swagger" it's not the color of your shirt, or your pants or your favorite TV show. It's your LOOKS, as in your physical appearance. And your male pattern baldness severely hurts your looks.

 

[TravisB]

Thank you for sharing your opinion with us.

If women reject you, it's not your confidence, it's not your approach,

I have to strongly disagree with it. Your confidence and approach is actually VERY important, no matter if you are good looking or not. I myself have fucked up many opportunities with girls that were clearly attracted to me, because of my unconfident and "scared" approach. That was when I had full head of hair. And not to sound cocky but I was considered as quite a handsome lad.

 

[Pyro]

You're an idiot in my opinion for generalising women like that. Every woman is different and obviously one will be repulsed by baldness, and another won't be. You obviously don't get out much and see the real world if you really think like that. I know SOOO many real world examples of hot girls with bald guys, and they don't even look that good anyway, even if they had hair. stop spewing the biggest pile of bullshit here to make up for your lack of poontang.

 

[theangryone]

You obviously don't get out much and see the real world if you really think like that.

Actually I get out plenty. The more I got out, the more I realized just how important looks are to women. Anyone who thinks the average bald guy does well with women either doesn't get out much or is delusional. For every bald guy who's doing well with women, there are dozens of bald men who are not even able to get an obese girl. You just pay attention to the small minority of bald men who are successful because that's all you want to see.

 

[antman]

i'm pretty sure we have accepted that truth; why else would we be taking drugs, getting surgery and constantly looking out for new treatments.

 

[Beingbaldsucks]

Those bald guys who look better are usually the tall ones 1.76+, if you below that your doomed, and another thing, if you bald you better be muscaler, so you won't look like a chimo kid

 

[Jeremy K]

That's all b.s.

You have to learn to disregard what women say when it comes to what they want, because they don't know what they want themselves. If what they said were true, they'd all have a "nice guy" on their arm and all of the ##$holes would be trying to do nice deeds for them in order to get into their pants.

It's all about body language and genuine confidence. If you want it, you have to take it, know you can have it, and be indifferent to the outcome knowing that there are more out there.

An ex of mine 7 years ago said she didn't date men with hair longer than her's (mine was mid back length, her's was shoulder length) she HATED my burly, red, Irish beard that doesn't match my brown hair, and she was mortified by how thin I was/am (6 ft. 130 lbs soaking wet) Oh yeah, she was 25 and I was 22.....and I HAD enough charm and charisma to overcome all of that, and before long, I took all of the control and I couldn't keep her away.

Of course, after years of hairloss, that confidence was beaten out of me and even though I'm making progress and my hair is getting better, restoring the confidence hasn't come so easily because of the residual emotional trauma.

You can't fake confidence btw either, they see right through that. It has to be genuine, and developed, and you have to truly love yourself and be at peace with who you are, and realize that you are your own foundation, a relationship is to be built on top of that foundation, but isn't necessary. Building your foundations on a relationship is a house of cards.

 

[uncomfortable man]

I prefer to use the term truism, instead of truth. There are no absolutes, every rule has an exception. That is not to say that there aren't averages in the vain of statistics but I would not know where to begin to collect that kind of data...

But I understand your point and agree for the most part. It's frustrating trying to convince some people on here just how hard it is to go bald but that is something they need to experience themselves before they actually understand where guys like me are coming from. I think many of the posters on here who are not yet bald want to believe that there is no stigma attached to baldness, despite the fact that were concerned enough to join this site never the less. Deep down nobody wants to go bald. All they need to do is ask themselves why they don't want to go bald. Seriously ask yourself that question and be honest with yourself, filtering out all the PC bullshit.

 

[CaptainForehead]

All they need to do is ask themselves why they don't want to go bald. Seriously ask yourself that question and be honest with yourself, filtering out all the PC bullshit.

Being bald is certainly less desirable than full hair.
But so is being under 6feet.
Or not looking like brad pitt.

 

[uncomfortable man]

Deflect deflect.

 

[pidda]

There comes a point where self-acceptance should kick in high gear in order to truly enjoy life again while offsetting those self-esteem issues. Is baldness the problem or is it just the negative perspective on it? Evolution of thought can allow us to cut through illusions we create for ourselves. I don't remember ever wanting to look like a Hollywood movie star as a young child. Now-a-days, envious thoughts can haunt me without realizing it sometimes. I've recently met a complete tipping point where I felt completely vulnerable these thoughts which made me feel completely worthless at times. I've recovered for the most part and I've simply learned a lot about myself during this time. I kind of feel as if I "leveled" up so to speak. I still have a lot to learn on my short time on this planet.

 

[Primo]

Why are the following facts so hard to accept?

1) Women care about looks as much as men if not more.
2) Women will reject a man they are not physically attracted to no matter how much "confidence" they have.
3) Very noticeable male pattern baldness (NW3 for some, NW4 for others) instantly makes 98 percent of guys ugly.
4) The remaining 2 percent are guys with very very good facial structure, but if you're not getting women, you're not in that 2 percent and that's all there is to it. BTW these guys are attractive in spite of going bald, and they were more attractive before they lost their hair, it's just they went from a 10/10 to a 6/10 or something like that.
5) Balding men who are married are either:
a: are getting used for money, or
b: are guys who got married before they started balding (at least severely), but their wives are no longer attracted to them and probably seldom give it up anymore (at least not to the balding hubby...but the younger pretty boy they have on the side on the other hand...)

If women reject you, it's not your confidence, it's not your approach, it's not your "swagger" it's not the color of your shirt, or your pants or your favorite TV show. It's your LOOKS, as in your physical appearance. And your male pattern baldness severely hurts your looks.

The angry one??... The delusional one more like! :woot: :jackit: :uglylol: :box: :bigun2:

 

[Thinneritgoes!]

Holy hell guys. I can't believe this kind of convo still goes on.
Look around you. You will see guys with ALL degrees of hairloss in relationships, married, families, etc etc etc etc etc. You are just so miserable with yourself you only see the other miserable guys (not saying I'm not miserable about my loss. But I can see the real world).

Another point is the job aspect. I am in a very hip, highly profitable industry and most of the men in high power at my company are... wait for it... BALD OR BALDING.

And just to help the situation I will throw in a personal story to "substantiate" my claim. My friend is pretty much bald on top and has been for a few years. He's been shaving it... but he met a girl a couple years back and they started dating. And guess what? They are now married and expecting a child. Oh and he is no super pretty boy either.

Okay rant over

 

[Jockson]

Ya, one tiny little problem with this "truth". Are you saying 98% of balding guys who aren't rich are alone? Because that, you know, isn't true. Points 1 and 2 are correct, but why would you expect it to be any different? I know I wouldn't want to be someone I'm not physically attracted to to any degree.

 

[uncomfortable man]

But so is being under 6feet.
Or not looking like brad pitt.

Neither of these have the same visual impact or negative reputation as loosing your hair. You need to recognize that there are different degrees of unattractiveness, some of which are much more common, hence normal. Would you lump together someone with bumpy blue skin and a bright red cleft lip with someone with a mere gap in their teeth?

 

[Jockson]

Baldness/thinning hair is very common though. Surely common enough to be considered "normal"?

 

[BrightonBaldy]

are those saying the OP is talking bullsh1t trying to be ironic


the fact is you are all here.. registered.. logged in.. contributing.. ON A FORUM CALLED HAIRLOSSTALK.

your being all the above negates any logic or respect the points in your post have.


there will be bald men out there in the world who genuinely dont give a sh1t about hair, either because they have bigger problems, they look good bald, they know theres no cure or whatever reason they have, they wont be visiting this site anytime soon. the posters who are on a mission to prove themselves as being ambivalent to it all are not those people at all.

i bet on all weight loss sites theres a group of people who claim being a fat b@stard doesnt bother them in the slightest and the other fat b@stards problems exist in their heads. as there will be on short peoples sites, those with acne, those with disabilities.... the truth is that anybody who googles these things, then goes through the process of registering and joining in, is in denial about their own situation.

i dont mean in denial about the situation of ALL bald men, i mean each individual posters own situation, if youre here then its on your mind and if its on your mind then everything you say about it not being an issue is BS.

if you want to prove me wrong then log out and go listen to some music, watch a movie, go for a drink, have a wank, do whatever it is you want to do. infact imagine the very first thing you would do today if you suddenly had all of your hair back, whatever the very first thing youd do happens to be, go and do that. dont reply with more delusions to set yourself apart from the website that YOU decided to sign up to.

 

[uncomfortable man]

Baldness/thinning hair is very common though. Surely common enough to be considered "normal"?

I have to concede that there are more rare (freakish) conditions out there that make male pattern baldness look like cake. But statistically, bald men are still a minority. The majority of men (hell, people) are not bald, hence being bald is not as normal. If the majority of people (not just men), like 80% of everyone was bald THEN bald would be normal but it's not. And not being brad pitt is nowhere in the same league and should not be clumped together with being bald, in other words.


Oh, and everything Brighton said was just brilliant! :bravo:

 

[Primo]

there will be bald men out there in the world who genuinely dont give a sh1t about hair, either because they have bigger problems, they look good bald, they know theres no cure

....... dont reply with more delusions to set yourself apart from the website that YOU decided to sign up to.

No, I'm sorry the angry one's OP about NW3s and 4s is delusional, just as delusional as any of the posts you will find on the slybaldguys forum and so are you Brighton if you agree with it.

It's f*****g laughable and pathetic, saying all NW3s and NW4s (never mind Nw5/6s) are instantly seen as ugly freaks by all women :shakehead:

I hardly ever visit this site anymore because like you say, there is absolutely no cure and I've got bigger things to worry about, ya know like, getting a job, a good career and enjoying a healthy social life :whistle: ... but when I do occassionally skim this forum for a laugh and see a delusional thread like this, as a NW3, of course I'm going to rip the piss out of the bitter loser who posted it... Why not?

He needs to get a f*****g grip... like you say there are MUCH BIGGER PROBLEMS in life than hairloss, and maybe the OP should go about addressing these problems instead of wasting his time bitterly blaming his all his failures in life on hairloss. Total copout!

 

[uncomfortable man]

The sh*t hits the fan after nw4, which is why I don't agree with OP's thesis on NW3s. Try being an nw5 Angryone...