Why is Pfizer still selling liquid Rogaine?

[Guest]

Is it just because the generic manufacturers can't make the foam so they want to keep the market on that? That's my assumption, because if there wasn't any competition, I'd assume that they would just make Foam only. I can't see why anyone would use liquid over the foam except for expense, and I mean Rogaine liquid is actually more expensive than Rogaine foam I believe. It's the generics that are cheaper.

Anyway I hope what someone else said is true, that Rogaine comes out with an extra strength foam, maybe something like 7.5% or 10%. That would truly kick ***.

 

[MSFB]

maybe because some people dont respond well when changing to the foam? or so ive read on here. i guess it will slowly be taken off the shelves though

 

[Sean68]

i havent seen it in boots (the main uk chemist) for a long time now. when i asked they told me theyd stopped making it. she was obviously wrong from what you said but doesnt look like itll be on general sale in the uk anymore the only one ive seen is boot's own 2% stuff.

 

[DoctorHouse]

It would be nice to see Spectral DNC as a FOAM.

 

[hair today gone tomorrow]

Is it just because the generic manufacturers can't make the foam so they want to keep the market on that? That's my assumption, because if there wasn't any competition, I'd assume that they would just make Foam only. I can't see why anyone would use liquid over the foam except for expense, and I mean Rogaine liquid is actually more expensive than Rogaine foam I believe. It's the generics that are cheaper.

Anyway I hope what someone else said is true, that Rogaine comes out with an extra strength foam, maybe something like 7.5% or 10%. That would truly kick ***.

7.5% or even 10% will not make much of a difference...thats like taking 1.5-2mg of finasteride instead of 1mg....it will help a little but nothing substantial.

 

[ShedMaster]

Is it just because the generic manufacturers can't make the foam so they want to keep the market on that? That's my assumption, because if there wasn't any competition, I'd assume that they would just make Foam only. I can't see why anyone would use liquid over the foam except for expense, and I mean Rogaine liquid is actually more expensive than Rogaine foam I believe. It's the generics that are cheaper.

Anyway I hope what someone else said is true, that Rogaine comes out with an extra strength foam, maybe something like 7.5% or 10%. That would truly kick ***.

7.5% or even 10% will not make much of a difference...thats like taking 1.5-2mg of finasteride instead of 1mg....it will help a little but nothing substantial.

ummm.. those two comparisons are completely different.

 

[Guest]

yes i have to agree with shedmaster. 5% did grow more than 2% in studies that bryan posted, so i find it hard to believe that a 10% foam wouldn't be at least moderately more effective than 5%.

 

[hair today gone tomorrow]

Is it just because the generic manufacturers can't make the foam so they want to keep the market on that? That's my assumption, because if there wasn't any competition, I'd assume that they would just make Foam only. I can't see why anyone would use liquid over the foam except for expense, and I mean Rogaine liquid is actually more expensive than Rogaine foam I believe. It's the generics that are cheaper.

Anyway I hope what someone else said is true, that Rogaine comes out with an extra strength foam, maybe something like 7.5% or 10%. That would truly kick ***.

7.5% or even 10% will not make much of a difference...thats like taking 1.5-2mg of finasteride instead of 1mg....it will help a little but nothing substantial.

ummm.. those two comparisons are completely different.

not really...the amount of the drug and your hair counts dont follow a linear scale...its parabolic...there is a point of diminishing returns...10% will not be much more effective than 5%

 

[hair today gone tomorrow]

yes i have to agree with shedmaster. 5% did grow more than 2% in studies that bryan posted, so i find it hard to believe that a 10% foam wouldn't be at least moderately more effective than 5%.

I remember reading a study that bryan posted that showed 5% didnt regrow that much more than 2%....HOWEVER...it took much longer for the 2% to catch up with the 5%...but the OVERALL haircounts werent *that* much higher with 5%

and then another jump from 5% to 7.5% would not increase hairc ounts much.

 

[hair today gone tomorrow]

I found it...check out this link

http://www.geocities.com/bryan50001/quitting-minoxidil.htm

as you can...you get a quick initial burst with the 5% but the 2% slowly start to catch up...after 96 weeks they are VERY close...although the 5% does work slightly better...

now another jump from 5% to 7.5 or 10% is getting to the point of diminishing returns....Id assume that the hair counts between 10% and 5% would not be that great at all.

 

[Guest]

those grafts are super confusing. what are they measuring in the second one, the one on the right? and why the variation in placebo

 

[hair today gone tomorrow]

those grafts are super confusing. what are they measuring in the second one, the one on the right? and why the variation in placebo

Jay...they are from bryans personal site...so if your *that* confused ask him...

read the y axis...one is hair weight and one and the right graph is hair count.

one is placebo and one is *untreated* the untreated and placebo do not vary from one another very much at all...as expected..

but you can see that in the end 2% and 5% are pretty similar....

 

[Guest]

if the second graph is hair count then why did placebo increase in hair count during the last 12 weeks? statistical mismeasurement?

hah i just realized i said graft instead of graph in my prior post. damn. spending too much time in the hair transplant forum i guess

and why would placebo be higher than 5%. it must be a delta change and not hair count difference

 

[hair today gone tomorrow]

if the second graph is hair count then why did placebo increase in hair count during the last 12 weeks? statistical mismeasurement?

hah i just realized i said graft instead of graph in my prior post. d***. spending too much time in the hair transplant forum i guess

yah id say so...i mean your goes thru random sheds...like it can increase for a month and then slow down...or it coulda been a seasonal shed.

but the main point is ....in the LONG run 5% isnt much better than 2%


so 7.5% would not provided much of a benefit over 5%

 

[Guest]

yeah i still want a 10% foam. techprof insists 15% minoxidil gave him better growth than the foam so maybe there's something to it

 

[hair today gone tomorrow]

yeah i still want a 10% foam. techprof insists 15% minoxidil gave him better growth than the foam so maybe there's something to it

lol...ok....youll have physiological edge.

 

[Guest]

yeah i still want a 10% foam. techprof insists 15% minoxidil gave him better growth than the foam so maybe there's something to it

lol...ok....youll have physiological edge.

psychological?

 

[hair today gone tomorrow]

yeah i still want a 10% foam. techprof insists 15% minoxidil gave him better growth than the foam so maybe there's something to it

lol...ok....youll have physiological edge.

psychological?

lmao..yah...dude i am fucked up rite now..lol thanks for that 1