Why peppermint is probably effective for hirsutism.

michael barry

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Food Chem Toxicol. 2008 Dec;46(12):3563-70. Epub 2008 Aug 31.

Spearmint induced hypothalamic oxidative stress and testicular anti-androgenicity in male rats - altered levels of gene expression, enzymes and hormones.
Kumar V, Kural MR, Pereira BM, Roy P.

Department of Biotechnology, Indian Institute of Technology Roorkee, Roorkee 247 667, Uttarakhand, India.

Mentha spicata Labiatae, commonly known as spearmint, can be used for various kinds of illnesses in herbal medicines and food industries. One of the prominent functions of this plant extract is its anti-androgenic activity. The present study investigated the probable correlation between oxidative stress in hypothalamic region and anti-androgenic action of this plant's aqueous extract on rats. Decreased activities of enzymes like superoxide dismutase, catalase, glutathione peroxidase and glutathione reductase in hypothalamus of treated rats indicated spearmint induced oxidative stress. Further RT-PCR and immunoblot analysis demonstrated the decreased expression of some of the steroidogenic enzymes, cytochrome P450scc, cytochrome P450C17, 3beta-Hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase (3beta-HSD), 17beta-Hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase (17beta-HSD) and other related proteins like, steroidogenic acute regulatory protein, androgen receptor and scavenger receptor class B-1. Further, in vitro enzyme assays demonstrated depressed activities of testicular 3beta-HSD and 17beta-HSD enzymes. Histopathology indicated a decreased sperm density in cauda epididymis and degeneration of ductus deference. Our study suggested that spearmint probably induced oxidative stress in hypothalamus resulting in decreased synthesis of LH and FSH which in turn down-regulated the production of testicular testosterone through the disruption of a number of intermediate cascades.

PMID: 18804513 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]




If mentha piperta (present in spearmint and especially peppermint) inhibits 17-beta HSD and 3 beta HSD, you can see why it induces such an anti-androgenic state. Both of those enzymes are upstream of alpha-five reductase. Inhibiting either should leave very little alpha-five reductase. The steroidogenesis chart can be seen here, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Test_ ... 7BHSD3.jpg

Basically 3 beta-HSD is necessary to turn DHEA into androstenidione, and 17 beta HSD is necessary (along with NADPH, which isn't on this chart) to create alpha-five reductase. 17-beta HSD and NADPH are co-factors in alpha-five reductase creation. Knock out either of the 2, and you wont have much alpha five reductase. If you knock out 3 beta HSD, you wont even have much androstenidione to be locally converted into stronger androgens. The stuff even decreased the expression of the androgen receptor. Apparently mentha piperta inhibits two enzymes upstream of alpha-five reductase.




But there is bad news....................Decreased activities of enzymes like superoxide dismutase, catalase, glutathione peroxidase and glutathione reductase in hypothalamus of treated rats indicated spearmint induced oxidative stress

So much bad news, let me count the ways. Catalese is what keeps hydrogen peroxide levels down in the skin, and hydrogen peroxide has been shown to be why melanocytes get inactive and your hair turns grey. I read an article about a year back in which scientists asserted that a lack of catalese WAS why our hair turns grey with age.
Superoxide dismutases are very helpful against ROS. They really help to delay ageing and inflammation.
Glutathione is the anti-oxidant that your own body makes. You never hear about it, but its probably the most important anti-oxidant in your body. In short, although peppermint is very anti-androgenic (good grief, multiple pathways involved. No wonder it so lessened my beard hair those years ago on one side of my chin vs. the untreated side), but it probably would speed ageing of the dermis wherever it was applied.




I think the "search" for a cheap "home-made" antiandrogen would have to revert back to topical green tea, and some of the other natural anti-androgens that have been bandied about on the forums for a while. I dont know that I'd put mint in my hair now unless it was with a very good copper peptide product.


Ive been using the same stuff.......finas, nizoral, and tinkering with topical green tea extract of my own making. My hair looks good.........suprisingly dark.




Hope all you guys are doing well. Haven't been on here in forever.
 

chore boy

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Interesting post, MB.

Several months ago, I was using Dr. Bronner's Peppermint castile soap and adding some more peppermint oil to it. There's no doubt that it arrested sebum secretion... scalp was bone dry for several hours afterwards. I'm not a huge fan of castile soap, which coupled with the uncertainty of peppermint being good or bad for hair, was enough for me to abandon it.

The stuff made my bathroom smell like I kidnapped a bunch of Santa's helpers... definitely not something (like TTO) that I could see myself adhering to in the presence of other people (GF, roommates, etc)

MB,

What do you think about liposomal genestein?
 

michael barry

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MB,

What do you think about liposomal genestein?




It would be interesting to see how anti-androgenic it would be on sebum secretions. Ive found something (below) that would indicate it possibly could be effective. I remember seeing that topical soy reduced sebum secretions by about 65%, but that was a while back. Im really interested in the phase 2 trial that supposedly was to start in late 2009 with Androscience (the curcumin based mousse). Perhaps that will end up being a 'home-run' topical anti-androgen for male pattern baldness with no side effects. Hope so anyway.





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Biochem Biophys Res Commun. 1995 Oct 24;215(3):1137-44.

Dietary estrogenic isoflavones are potent inhibitors of beta-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase of P. testosteronii.
Keung WM.

Center for Biochemical and Biophysical Sciences and Medicine, Harvard Medical School, Boston, MA 02115, USA.

The isoflavones daidzein, genistein, biochanin A and formononetin selectively inhibit the gamma-isozymes of mammalian alcohol dehydrogenase (ADH). Since gamma-ADH is the only ADH isoform that catalyzes 3 beta-hydroxysteroid oxidation, it was conjectured that these isoflavones might also inhibit other enzymes involved in 3 beta-hydroxysteroid metabolism. P. testosteronii beta-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase (beta-HSD) was used to evaluate this hypothesis. Indeed, all isoflavones that inhibit gamma-ADH were found to be potent inhibitors of beta-HSD. Both the 3 beta- and 17 beta-HSD activities of the enzyme are inhibited. Kinetic analyses with pregnenolone (3-beta-OH) and testosterone (17-beta-OH) as substrates reveal that daidzein and genistein inhibit beta-HSD competitively with respect to the sterol substrates. Their Ki values are very similar and range from 0.013 to 0.02 microM. These results suggest that isoflavones may exert some of their biological effects by modulating activities of enzymes that metabolize steroids critical to hormonal and/or neuronal functions.

PMID: 7488041 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
 

jh

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Michael Barry,

How did your results testing sebum levels before and after applying a topical pan out?
 

vauxall

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michael barry said:
Decreased activities of enzymes like superoxide dismutase, catalase, glutathione peroxidase and glutathione reductase in hypothalamus of treated rats indicated spearmint induced oxidative stress

I don't understand the point of your post. Why the hell would you want to reduce your lifespan?
 

waynakyo

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I see that some of you, and notably Michael, have done some reading and experimenting on sebum production.

I wonder if you guys have any advice for someone like me who wants to reduce sebum on skin and reduce facial hair; is this possibly done in a safe way ? I was even thinking of applying fluridil on my skin too since M. seems to have found that it decreased sebum, right?

It's a hell of a problem for me. 3 years back my face skin was smooth and now it's quite bumpy (noticeable under some lights) and HAIRY (even under my eyes, above the eyebrows....). Some of it can be due to minoxidil but I am sure not all. My brother doesn't have significant baldness and he has some facial hair too (although less oily). What is it about sebum and DHT levels and age by the way ? why do people with better hair also have smoother younger skin / less under-eye circles, less acne, ... ?

After all the research is there a good safe way to decrease these problems ?

Thanks
 

DHTHater

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Interesting find. The oxidative stress part wasn't very encouraging, especially when I thought I might add chewing spearmint gum to my daily regimen. But interesting none the less.

I don't know that a topical spearmint application could be compared to oral/dietary spearmint with regard to oxidation. The effects of oxidation would no doubt be different.

Good find.
 

waynakyo

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DHTHater said:
I don't know that a topical spearmint application could be compared to oral/dietary spearmint with regard to oxidation. The effects of oxidation would no doubt be different.

What I don't understand is that if the effect is systematic (of local application) then its effect should show not only locally (where it was applied) but everywhere (i.e. you apply it on your right cheek and you will get also reduction in sebum/hairiness on your left cheek too) ..

wish someone could reply to my earlier post too.
 

adriabold

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I never knew peppermint is effective for hirsuitism. Le me give a try to this next week. By the way how long will it be effective and how well? How much time does it take to show the effect?
 

adriabold

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Please keep writing on hirsuitism and its effect I am a very big victim of it. Do write your experiences with different remedies. If possible try to advise me some natural remedies. Thank you all so much.
 

Norwood-null-by-2021

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Just because the antioxidant enzymes have been lowered does not necessarily mean that peppermint is pro-oxidative. On the contrary: the body has lowered them BECAUSE the oxidative stress has been lowered by peppermint. That is also logical. Also:
 
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