Would Cupping + Intense Massage Work To Restore Blood Flow ?

Kistyle

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Cupping seems interesting, may be a good add on with minoxidil and needling.

Cupping increases blood circulation to the area where the cups are placed. This may relieve muscle tension, which can improve overall blood flow and promote cell repair. It may also help form new connective tissues and create new blood vessels in the tissue.
 

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I heard something about this recently but the article specified that you can actually get blood clots from it and other complications that could only get solved through surgery. I guess it's important who does it and how also, but it's different from the other parts of the body were it was done before because of the thickness of the skin and it's differences from other parts of the body. Plus the fact that it's not well documented and not even one study done with results on hair loss, just a couple of indian anecdotal reports. It's clear that blood flow has a saying in all of this baldness thing, it's not a mystery anymore, but how it's not yet well understood. I think it's a more complex thing to reestablish a complex network of blood vessels than just poring toxic chemicals like minoxidil is or doing this vagina pump thing. It could help maybe, but for how long, what are the risks and how much of a reward?

What people need to understand that all of these "theories" with all of these "snake oils" from natural to chemical have been already strongly tested by the scientific community but by the people also, from desperation, curiosity, etc. If something would really be great and accessible it's almost impossible to not know of it, you would see at least one person with great results and proof from the method or theory you are searching for. Unfortunately until this day, the only 2 things that seem to work and are approved and well accepted by the majority, are minoxidil and finasteride, maybe dutasteride even, don't want to get into the transgender estrogen part, even if i find it fascinating and i don't know why the scientific community does not take it more seriously, maybe they could learn something.

But for now, things seem to align with their DHT theory and it's clearly that both, blood flow and DHT and maybe even testosterone, have a saying in male pattern baldness. Why? How? Are there more factors? Nobody knows and the data that we have is the only thing we have, even if a lot of studies are not done correctly, even if pharma can't be trusted and everything they say or sell must be taken with caution and with a grain of salt, it's the only thing we got, and it's still better than anecdotal random internet reports from random strangers, or indians trying to scam or sell their souls for a penny.

Stick with the proven, if they work they work, if not try a transplant, try a wig or go full transgender lol or just accept it and move on. Don't waste your time butchering your scalp and body with things that won't give you at least the wanted benefits, it's not worth the time and the struggle.

Ohh and stop searching youtube for hair loss "cures", you covered most of them in your last posts, i wonder how you did not ask about "balayam" until now :D
 

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I heard something about this recently but the article specified that you can actually get blood clots from it and other complications that could only get solved through surgery. I guess it's important who does it and how also, but it's different from the other parts of the body were it was done before because of the thickness of the skin and it's differences from other parts of the body. Plus the fact that it's not well documented and not even one study done with results on hair loss, just a couple of indian anecdotal reports. It's clear that blood flow has a saying in all of this baldness thing, it's not a mystery anymore, but how it's not yet well understood. I think it's a more complex thing to reestablish a complex network of blood vessels than just poring toxic chemicals like minoxidil is or doing this vagina pump thing. It could help maybe, but for how long, what are the risks and how much of a reward?

What people need to understand that all of these "theories" with all of these "snake oils" from natural to chemical have been already strongly tested by the scientific community but by the people also, from desperation, curiosity, etc. If something would really be great and accessible it's almost impossible to not know of it, you would see at least one person with great results and proof from the method or theory you are searching for. Unfortunately until this day, the only 2 things that seem to work and are approved and well accepted by the majority, are minoxidil and finasteride, maybe dutasteride even, don't want to get into the transgender estrogen part, even if i find it fascinating and i don't know why the scientific community does not take it more seriously, maybe they could learn something.

But for now, things seem to align with their DHT theory and it's clearly that both, blood flow and DHT and maybe even testosterone, have a saying in male pattern baldness. Why? How? Are there more factors? Nobody knows and the data that we have is the only thing we have, even if a lot of studies are not done correctly, even if pharma can't be trusted and everything they say or sell must be taken with caution and with a grain of salt, it's the only thing we got, and it's still better than anecdotal random internet reports from random strangers, or indians trying to scam or sell their souls for a penny.

Stick with the proven, if they work they work, if not try a transplant, try a wig or go full transgender lol or just accept it and move on. Don't waste your time butchering your scalp and body with things that won't give you at least the wanted benefits, it's not worth the time and the struggle.

Ohh and stop searching youtube for hair loss "cures", you covered most of them in your last posts, i wonder how you did not ask about "balayam" until now :D
You really think someone tried using the vagina pump on his head for a couple minutes every day for 3 months ?
 

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You really think someone tried using the vagina pump on his head for a couple minutes every day for 3 months ?

Haha, i don't know that's for sure but it would not surprise me, we are 8 billion in the world, your not the only one who is balding and not the only one who would do desperate things to stop or reverse it, so... But i was referring to the cupping technique that i was reading about some articles a couple of weeks ago.. They tried it yes on the head also but i did not see nothing in terms of results from it, i actually saw and believe more in the botox study, it has before and after pictures, a theory behind it, i would trust that one more that's for sure...
 

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Haha, i don't know that's for sure but it would not surprise me, we are 8 billion in the world, your not the only one who is balding and not the only one who would do desperate things to stop or reverse it, so... But i was referring to the cupping technique that i was reading about some articles a couple of weeks ago.. They tried it yes on the head also but i did not see nothing in terms of results from it, i actually saw and believe more in the botox study, it has before and after pictures, a theory behind it, i would trust that one more that's for sure...
What do u think about the growband thing?
I'm trying to wrap a band around my for head as tight as I can and leave it for 10 mins my scalp becomes super red from the blood flow and when I take it off it feels so relaxed
 

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What do u think about the growband thing?
I'm trying to wrap a band around my for head as tight as I can and leave it for 10 mins my scalp becomes super red from the blood flow and when I take it off it feels so relaxed

I only saw one sold by that site that has a lot of theories regarding hair loss and it costs around 300 or 400$ something like that. I think it's just another scam trying to sell something to the desperate men like us who would buy it. I mean as i said, it's way more complex to rejuvenate a blood flow network than just sticking needles in your head or using growbands, balayam and other shits that this idiots sell. If finasteride, dutasteride, minoxidil and maybe dermaroller let's say does not work, only transgender drugs and transplants will, not guaranteed also but it's the best we got. And that's kind of it, at least until they really come with something f*****g new and revolutionary thing, like some sort of RU or a more potent CB or something..

I really think that this blood flow problem could be slowed down or at least diminished only by strong massages done daily. If you have a good ket shampoo some light derma from now and then and some minoxidil if you like it and can handle it, it's the best you got. I won't get into the controversial oral minoxidil topic because it was banned from the market with a reason, but yet still, people are taking it, because indeed, it's far superior to the topical one, logical thing considering it enters the blood stream directly, but not worth the risks in my opinion...

Btw, that patent from Follica or what is it's name that you posted on another thread was the most interesting thing i have read lately about hairloss. Very in dept, very knowledgeable and informative and with clear explanations to the whole thing, at least what we know by now. I really have faith that they will do something different.
 
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what about using vacuum pump

I think you could be on to something here..

Did you ever see that video someone posted theres a clinic that uses suction pumps in conjunction with microneedling, I think it may have been indian or turkish
 

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2020 and still people thinking male pattern baldness is blood flow related :\
 

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2020 and still people thinking male pattern baldness is blood flow related :\

It is related to the blood flow, but not like these desperate people think after reading 10 articles. It's a cascade of events that disrupts the blood flow network in the balding scalp and it's not that easy reversible , you can delay it with treatment it seems but always catches up and continues. Imagine actually thinking that you, a pleb from the hair loss forum who takes chemicals from china and many other shits that these desperate people are taking and doing, imagine thinking that you actually know more than the whole scientific community that is dedicated in trying to find out what the real problem is, with billions of dollars invested around the world for this. And all of this, by buying generic proscar and cutting it in 5 pieces because it's expensive lmao
 

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It is related to the blood flow, but not like these desperate people think after reading 10 articles. It's a cascade of events that disrupts the blood flow network in the balding scalp and it's not that easy reversible , you can delay it with treatment it seems but always catches up and continues. Imagine actually thinking that you, a pleb from the hair loss forum who takes chemicals from china and many other shits that these desperate people are taking and doing, imagine thinking that you actually know more than the whole scientific community that is dedicated in trying to find out what the real problem is, with billions of dollars invested around the world for this. And all of this, by buying generic proscar and cutting it in 5 pieces because it's expensive lmao
can u tell me tldr of follica patent ?
 

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can u tell me tldr of follica patent ?

I wasted enough time this couple of days writing on this forum, maybe later i have a real life also unfortunately. Or you could actually read it doh and maybe learn something new from it.
 
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