Wouldn't touch Propecia,Nizoral,Minoxidil for the life of me

[jas021]

Had terrible side effects after coming off these drugs for 6 months now.. Was on it for 7 months as in my previous posts.. (Nearly wrecked my life..) I've seen a sex therapist about libido, erctile dysfunction, I've seen many doctors.. Depression, anxiety, aggression (it wasn't all in my head i reassure you that) I'm not blaming just one drug, but all of them contibute.. I spoke to a senior pharmist who put it very simple..

The problem with these drugs is that you try to change one thing (hairloss) and 15 other things change in your body.. .. ..

Good source to look at is CEO from www.impotenceaustralia.com.au - he's had many cases of propecia related problems, and people who still had side effects after stopping it....

Take these drugs at your own will, but remember you are the only one who knows how your body and mind is feeling, and if you try to get help from the doctors more than not they won't know what to do...


Simple solution get a hair transplant or a strand by strand procedure.... it's not worth it, putting sh*t into your brain, that just changes your hormones, brain pathways, nervous system and many many other.. I'm not a professional, but I've heard many tell me this and that they also wouldn't take the drug... Also the doctors have great relationships with the big med. companies.. As long as there making big profits, they're all happy and prosperous and we have to suffer.. Just my thoughts.. Please don't ruin your life, like i nearly did........

 

[Timi]

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[Fanjeera]

It's also possible that it messes up the DNA. More and more theories are coming up: http://www.propeciahelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3251 ; http://www.propeciahelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3226 ; http://www.propeciahelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3187
This all for sure is permanent, so I would suggest staying away from finasteride also.

 

[treeshrew]

ok, i think everyone understands and accepts that for some VERY SMALL percentage of people these drugs can have negative effects. sorry, but you are in the extremely unlucky few who have a bad experience.

some people have peanut allergies and if they eat peanuts they will literally die. does that mean no one else should eat peanuts?

 

[jas021]

i think you the peanut here mate.. Chemical drugs are a lot different to naturally grown nuts.. sounds like u work for one some med company.. i'd believe that's your motive..

 

[treeshrew]

yes, you caught me. i work for Merck and have been playing you all for fools responding to all different sorts of threads to keep my cover.

you gotta be kidding me buddy?

just get lost - you bring nothing of value to this forum except for your paranoid ramblings.

 

[Boondock]

You're a moron. First of all you assume that because you had bad effects after taking all three of these drugs, they all have negative effects. That's like a doctor claiming that when a soldier washes down his cyanide with orange juice, that in future everyone should avoid cyanide and orange juice. Purely idiocy.

Secondly you've completely dramatized the level and regularity of effects. Yes, some people have libido effects from propecia (although never minoxidil or nizoral), but they are in the minority.

I'm actually in that minority of people who suffer from sides on finasteride - despite varying dosages and giving it a long run. But you don't see me coming on here preaching about how bad it is, because plenty of guys take it for a long time with no troubles, and manage to preserve their hair.

Grow up and stop assuming that your experience is universal for mankind.

 

[KANGA]

I'm actually in that minority of people who suffer from sides on finasteride - despite varying dosages and giving it a long run. But you don't see me coming on here preaching about how bad it is, because plenty of guys take it for a long time with no troubles, and manage to preserve their hair.

I think there's a boatload of people on this board seem to complain about sides from finasteride.

Whether it's 'in their head' is another question, but in my experience here, the 'small' minority isn't so 'small'.

 

[beaner]

I'm actually in that minority of people who suffer from sides on finasteride - despite varying dosages and giving it a long run. But you don't see me coming on here preaching about how bad it is, because plenty of guys take it for a long time with no troubles, and manage to preserve their hair.

I think there's a boatload of people on this board seem to complain about sides from finasteride.

Whether it's 'in their head' is another question, but in my experience here, the 'small' minority isn't so 'small'.

But 2% of actual finasteride users would be tens of thousands of men. You certainly haven't read tens of thousands of stories about side effects---so yes it is a small minority. The popluation of an internet board in no way represents a valid sample of users.

 

[KANGA]

I'm actually in that minority of people who suffer from sides on finasteride - despite varying dosages and giving it a long run. But you don't see me coming on here preaching about how bad it is, because plenty of guys take it for a long time with no troubles, and manage to preserve their hair.

I think there's a boatload of people on this board seem to complain about sides from finasteride.

Whether it's 'in their head' is another question, but in my experience here, the 'small' minority isn't so 'small'.

But 2% of actual finasteride users would be tens of thousands of men. You certainly haven't read tens of thousands of stories about side effects---so yes it is a small minority. The popluation of an internet board in no way represents a valid sample of users.

I'm merely making an observation.

It's obvious that ALL of the people that are using finasteride aren't on these boards. What I'm noticing is that the majority of people on these boards complain about side effects when on finasteride. Me included.

Outside of the boards, the fact very well may be that some men are not being vocal about their side effects on finasteride and choose to live with it.

Now, since we're on the topic of representation: is it appropriate to say that the finasteride trial study of 1,500 men is an accurate representation of the millions of men who are using finasteride?

 

[Boondock]

It doesn't matter to me whether it's 2% or 10%. The fact remains that the majority of people don't experience sides, and that if you do experience them, you can stop.

 

[beaner]

Now, since we're on the topic of representation: is it appropriate to say that the finasteride trial study of 1,500 men is an accurate representation of the millions of men who are using finasteride?

I would say a random sample of 1500 men who have never used finasteride is going to be alot more accurate than a sample of 1500 men taken from an internet message board, many who joined only to complain of side effects.

Will it be 100% accurate? Probably not, but I can't believe it's very far off the mark---and there is zero evidence to say otherwise.

 

[timbo]

Now, since we're on the topic of representation: is it appropriate to say that the finasteride trial study of 1,500 men is an accurate representation of the millions of men who are using finasteride?

Absolutely! In a non-perfect world, 1,500 men from different age groups is pretty accurate. But I think the most important part of the clinical trials were the patients not knowing what the side effects are. I believe there was a study done that concluded that people have a higher incidence of side effects if they have foreknowledge of them. It is always easier to find something if you know what you are looking for.