21, Hey I’m Daniel and I’m just concerned

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I might start minoxidil capsules after I get a result from the derma this coming Monday, is topical better for less side effects? I got a prescription for tablets I just don’t know how bad the side effects will affect my fitness journey
Yes, topical have a less chance of sides. However, the oral version produces better results.

1mg of oral minoxidil is already a low dose. I don’t think you’ll experience much sides anyways. It might not be much more effective than topical though. Usually guys take between 2.5-10mg of oral.

Minoxidil is more effective when applied topically twice daily because it increases the overall dose. Though once a day is usually enough to produce some results. I wouldn’t trust taking that every other day topically. Orally you can take a higher dose relative to the follicles, and so once a day will give you good results. It is so powerful that I think you could take it orally every other day, as its half life is similar to that of finasteride and some use that every other day. However with such a low dose of 1mg of oral minoxidil (a female dose) I wouldn’t recommend that being enough every other day and I would guess you will be fine taking that daily unless you happen to be oddly sensitive.
 

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These are the only other supplements I take
Interesting well I would avoid anything that contains creatine if you are prone it will speed up the process, has been proven to increase DHT supplement companies try to brush this under the rug because of how much money creatine is worth in the industry. Also BCAAs not too sure thats a great idea either.
 

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Interesting well I would avoid anything that contains creatine if you are prone it will speed up the process, has been proven to increase DHT supplement companies try to brush this under the rug because of how much money creatine is worth in the industry. Also BCAAs not too sure thats a great idea either.
Yeah iv'e stopped them as a precaution and have started taking these instead. Which are all essential for hair growth and helps naturally block DHT (if that is my issue)

3 Vitamin B Capsules (Morning)
2 Saw Palmetto Capsule (Lunch Time)
1 Scoop of Collagen in 250ml water (Night Time)

I'll let you guys know if this magically works for my minor recession/thinning or whatever the diagnosis is...
 
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Notice how much funnier when Janey, sticks the um in, for timing and effect? This comedy thing is not hard at all for Janey. She always has a scanner on like a robot of possible answers, f*** you a**h** and this:
 

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Hey, I’m Daniel recently I have been stressing over my hairline/thinning for the past couple of months and I’m pretty obsessive over it checking everyday and taking photos and videos constantly I’m just wondering if I can get your guys opinions ps. I have always had thick long hair

i started gym January 2021 and only noticed it about late june/early July 2021

been to a dermatologist who was useless and barely looked at my head and just Prescribed me minoxidil 1mg (which i refuse to take until i have a proper answer to my problem) and it was like he was careless about his job wasn't paying attention to me at all, he said it may be stress.....

Changed my diet completely this year and have a healthy balanced diet with no deficiencies I have had blood tests.
Though I have been through major physical stress from gym and mental stress from personal matters also i am in Australia which is on lockdown from covid and this has also been stressing me out as i can no longer do a lot of normal routine things anymore.

Is this male pattern baldness, Mature Hairline or Telogen effluvium, I am not loosing excessive hair just have a dry scalp and hair looks thinning all over i believe check video below.

I take natural supplements as well which are

3 Fish oil Capsule (Morning)
1 Mens Multivitamin Capsule (Morning)
3 Vitamin B Capsules (Morning)
2 Saw Palmetto Capsule (Lunch Time)
1 Scoop of Collagen in 250ml water (Night Time)
2 Melatonin Capsules (Before bed)

I don't know if this is linked to anything but im just giving all the information i know, the problem also is i don't have any close up photos from when i was younger to compare my hairline because i obviously was not worried and this insecure

You are receeding, the thinning at the hairline is the give away
 

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You are receeding, the thinning at the hairline is the give away
I’m still hoping it’s Telogen Effluvium or something ahhh I think my hair is thinning all over my head
 

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Anyway I’m going to have a break from this forum until I get a proper diagnosis because it’s just creating more stress atm for me hahha I’ll let you guys know what happens. I appreciate your guys opinions and it feels kind of good that I’m not the only one going through this weird phase, it’s funny how no one thought it would affect us as kids getting old is toughhhh
 
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The genetics of baldness seem to be expressed in all Europeans/Semites. I doubt that much useful information can be gleaned at all by looking at parents. Siblings might work better if one has older siblings. The further up the chain you go, there are probably always going to be genes related to baldness that might be expressed in descendants. Looking at relatives who are all bald without exception is probably predictive but for people of mixed races, it might not be at all. It doesn't appear that we know enough about the genes involved and how they are expressed. Probably much, much more predictive is level of body hair and beard hair growth. Baldness is far less common in racial groups that either don't grow beards or that struggle to do so. Androgynous hair is typical if not universal among all groups closely related to native Siberians, meaning the Inuit and Eskimos, most people in the Pacific and most Asians and all Native Americans referred to previously as "Indians". Baldness tends to be an issue only for people with substantial gene intermixing between whites/Semites and others, especially non African blacks.

It might be that looking at sisters with hair loss is more predictive than anything else, along with brothers. Neither of my parents have any form of hair loss. My brother has very mild hair loss but my sister has arguably the worst hair in our nuclear family. People always talk about uncles but aunts and grandmothers might be predictive as well. Presumably very few people ask this question if father, uncles and grandfathers are all bald so that's why we seldom hear of Telogen Effluvium being asserted by guys with rampant hair loss in the entire extended family. I know a family with seven sons and all of them are bald. The sister has thin hair but no baldness. If the father is completely bald, many males grow up resigned to this but it's often not true. George Harrison for example had two totally cue ball brothers while he arguably had the best long hair in rock and roll since 1966 and Rubber Soul. Lennon to me, always looked on the cusp of being bald but he never actually was balding. McCartney's current hair status is unknown but Ringo has very similar hair to Sting's, both of which never progressed past the temple areas.

Strangely enough, just thinking that one has hair loss might be extremely predictive as to whether one is balding vel non. The younger a person is when seeing or thinking that he or she is balding might be incredibly predictive. Given that physicians seem to be notoriously, if not laughably wrong in terms of diagnosing male pattern baldness as Telogen Effluvium, that any sort of hair loss at all indicates male pattern baldness.



  • There are racial differences, however, in the incidence of male pattern baldness. The highest rates are found among Caucasians, followed by Afro-Caribbeans. Chinese and Japanese men have the lowest rates. For some unknown reason, this form of hair loss is does not occur among Native Americans.
How do we know that George Harrison or any of the other Beatles didn't wear or get plugs? They are gazillionaires and can certainly get the best and most undetectable methods.
 

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If you go to a doctor they will humor you, because as far as male pattern baldness is concerned you like another concerned male in this weeks top posts are in top 1% of males for hair, not hairloss.
But you are correct you see a degrading of hairs in your scalp. That’s the Trillion dollar question.. how to thicken, unminiaturize, elongate male scalp hairs?
we know follicles need blood flow/nutrients, we know DHT miniaturizes hairs, & we also know the general approach doesn’t work… so what to do?
Keep studying…Also have your hair styled by a professional. I pay over $100 to get hair cut, styled, & sometimes highlighted.
I could never do what stylist does. If you can get a style you like, style it & forget about male pattern baldness for a few hours..
 
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