5.5 months on finasteride (pics)
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I wonder why you always take your pics, with:
1_ Really WET hair
2_ ULTRA-CLOSE Pictures
3_ A strong light
Why do you never take pictures with dry hair and medium-close pics.
BTW, I also wonder, how the f*** do you guys take those ULTRA close pictures, it looks almost like a microscope.
and how do you know you are shouting on the right place. crazy.
1_ Really WET hair
2_ ULTRA-CLOSE Pictures
3_ A strong light
Why do you never take pictures with dry hair and medium-close pics.
BTW, I also wonder, how the f*** do you guys take those ULTRA close pictures, it looks almost like a microscope.
and how do you know you are shouting on the right place. crazy.
GoodGuy said:
1. my hair isnt wet, that's thickening moose i have in my hiar.
2. why would far away pics be better?
3. should i take pics in the dark? when people see me it's either under lighting or outside. harldly ever in dark.
GoodGuy said:
um a good camera?
GoodGuy said:
what does that mean??
Johnny24601
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Ah, the wonderful Jeffsss saga.
Jeff, I am almost exactly the same age as you with almost exactly the same male pattern baldness. First of all, you are overreacting but I had the same feelings as you (and sometimes still get really depressed) I just did not constantly post my worries on a forum full of guys who have it way worse then me. You may not "think" you are offending anyone but you are. I have a friend who has way less hair then me and make sure that I don't discuss my situation around him because I would sound like a jerk. Consider that.
You have to make the same acceptance as me, keep it relatively short and work the old flat roman look. Not to sound like an h-mo but even throw a little flair in the front by spiking up those hair just enough to add some depth to the style but not too much to allow the scalp to show. Whatever you do, you have to cut out the entire gelled up wet look as the more product you add to your hair the more scalp shines through. I let my hair dry and just use a few sparays of Garnier volume to keep things in place and add some shine.
Shaving your head would work fine but it is not a must.
Initially I felt better once I saw that many other men my age were thinning, but really what has made the bigeest difference is that I just grew up. I realized that allowing hairloss to take over my life was totally crazy. What's the point? Somehow I think I am wasting my time as you do not want to hear this stuff. But I have a newsflash, you are starting to go bald because of genetics that were totally out of your control. This is something you are going to have to accept, in time I think you will grow more comfortable with yourself and your hairloss. I spoke with an uncle of mine who told me that dealing with his balding head was tough in his late twenties but as he hit his early 30's it got a lot easier. Its tough but dwelling on it and hiding from the public is not going to make your life any better.
Ah, the wonderful Jeffsss saga.
Jeff, I am almost exactly the same age as you with almost exactly the same male pattern baldness. First of all, you are overreacting but I had the same feelings as you (and sometimes still get really depressed) I just did not constantly post my worries on a forum full of guys who have it way worse then me. You may not "think" you are offending anyone but you are. I have a friend who has way less hair then me and make sure that I don't discuss my situation around him because I would sound like a jerk. Consider that.
You have to make the same acceptance as me, keep it relatively short and work the old flat roman look. Not to sound like an h-mo but even throw a little flair in the front by spiking up those hair just enough to add some depth to the style but not too much to allow the scalp to show. Whatever you do, you have to cut out the entire gelled up wet look as the more product you add to your hair the more scalp shines through. I let my hair dry and just use a few sparays of Garnier volume to keep things in place and add some shine.
Shaving your head would work fine but it is not a must.
Initially I felt better once I saw that many other men my age were thinning, but really what has made the bigeest difference is that I just grew up. I realized that allowing hairloss to take over my life was totally crazy. What's the point? Somehow I think I am wasting my time as you do not want to hear this stuff. But I have a newsflash, you are starting to go bald because of genetics that were totally out of your control. This is something you are going to have to accept, in time I think you will grow more comfortable with yourself and your hairloss. I spoke with an uncle of mine who told me that dealing with his balding head was tough in his late twenties but as he hit his early 30's it got a lot easier. Its tough but dwelling on it and hiding from the public is not going to make your life any better.
StoptheMadness
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Jeff,
I completely empathise with you, but I have to agree with others here: You must find an alternate hair style. The one you are still trying to pull off is over. Are you just trying to recapture the past and styling your hair as if nothing is happening? I can't quite tell what your hair looks like in the clear light of day, but I strongly suggest trying a styling product that doesn't add shine and or the messy look. i.e. try American Crew Matte. Someone here said to put product in your hair and part from the side. This is great advice. Use the Matte, it thickens existing hairs while leaving no shine, which could help give you a slightly better appearance.
I also want to say that other's who say you are overreacting forget that hairloss and how it effects us all, is relative....If someone is worse off than Jeff, and thinks Jeff should shut it, then that person is discounting the fact that Jeff is staring into what he knows will soon come: worsening balndess (i know that's redundant). That is a shitty feeling.
I completely empathise with you, but I have to agree with others here: You must find an alternate hair style. The one you are still trying to pull off is over. Are you just trying to recapture the past and styling your hair as if nothing is happening? I can't quite tell what your hair looks like in the clear light of day, but I strongly suggest trying a styling product that doesn't add shine and or the messy look. i.e. try American Crew Matte. Someone here said to put product in your hair and part from the side. This is great advice. Use the Matte, it thickens existing hairs while leaving no shine, which could help give you a slightly better appearance.
I also want to say that other's who say you are overreacting forget that hairloss and how it effects us all, is relative....If someone is worse off than Jeff, and thinks Jeff should shut it, then that person is discounting the fact that Jeff is staring into what he knows will soon come: worsening balndess (i know that's redundant). That is a shitty feeling.
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Worsening baldness?
That's some bullshit.
Hair can be maintained.
I really dislike how many people have no hope in these forums. Jeff, I can relate to you. I know what it's like to go from having extremely thick hair in less than a hair, to about a NW1-2 with diffuse thinning. It f*****g sucks.
Man, your hair can be maintained with treatmets. Don't let anyone get you down. Another 5 years, Jeff, we can do it.
That's some bullshit.
Hair can be maintained.
I really dislike how many people have no hope in these forums. Jeff, I can relate to you. I know what it's like to go from having extremely thick hair in less than a hair, to about a NW1-2 with diffuse thinning. It f*****g sucks.
Man, your hair can be maintained with treatmets. Don't let anyone get you down. Another 5 years, Jeff, we can do it.
hairwegoagain
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Very true.
He will eventually realize this too. Hopefully, sooner than later.
I can vouch for this. I had a tough time in my early 20s, but decided that I was doing everything I could...and I carried on. Life was good. Now that I'm in my 30s, life is still good. If every hair on my entire head falls off, I won't like it but I'm not going to check out of life.
Johnny24601 said:
Very true.
Johnny24601 said:
He will eventually realize this too. Hopefully, sooner than later.
Johnny24601 said:
I can vouch for this. I had a tough time in my early 20s, but decided that I was doing everything I could...and I carried on. Life was good. Now that I'm in my 30s, life is still good. If every hair on my entire head falls off, I won't like it but I'm not going to check out of life.
theendoftheend
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I'm starting to understand how Freestyle felt.
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Jeffss,your hair loss is not noticeable to the average eye; you would seriously have to show an up-close pic like the ones you've provided for anyone to believe it. I don't think you're wrong about your hair thinning, but I seriously doubt anyone you meet looks at your hair and thinks of hair loss.
My advice is stick with what you're doing, and like some of the other guys said, just ride it out for a few more years till something much more effecient comes out. It will take a LONG time before your hair loss becomes visible to people that aren't studying your hair from a clear, brightly-lit up-close pic. By then, who knows what will be out?
I personally don't blame you for being paranoid; I was just as paranoid when I first noticed my hair loss, and back then I had a LOT more hair than I do now. If I had any idea how thin my hair would get in a few years' time, I wouldn't have taken what I had (in regards to hair) for granted.
In regards to all the negative comments: most of these guys that are getting pissed off are just targeting you out of frustration and/or jealous. They look at your hair and don't see a guy who is in an early stage of male pattern baldness; they instead see a guy who has been lucky enough to have all his hair through a good portion of his 20's and is currently freaking out over a head of hair they would kill to have had in their 20's.
Nobody you meet in person will notice your hair loss. I don't know how to emphasize this more.
My advice is stick with what you're doing, and like some of the other guys said, just ride it out for a few more years till something much more effecient comes out. It will take a LONG time before your hair loss becomes visible to people that aren't studying your hair from a clear, brightly-lit up-close pic. By then, who knows what will be out?
I personally don't blame you for being paranoid; I was just as paranoid when I first noticed my hair loss, and back then I had a LOT more hair than I do now. If I had any idea how thin my hair would get in a few years' time, I wouldn't have taken what I had (in regards to hair) for granted.
In regards to all the negative comments: most of these guys that are getting pissed off are just targeting you out of frustration and/or jealous. They look at your hair and don't see a guy who is in an early stage of male pattern baldness; they instead see a guy who has been lucky enough to have all his hair through a good portion of his 20's and is currently freaking out over a head of hair they would kill to have had in their 20's.
Nobody you meet in person will notice your hair loss. I don't know how to emphasize this more.
Sir_LagaLot
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Jeffs, you've been on finasteride for 5.5 months. that isnt even half the time you'd need to make a fair judgement of whether treatment is helping you or not. dont base your situation on people here who've had results within 3-4 months. everybody is different.
i have a friend who was on finasteride for 13 months, was in total denial about it not working for him the entire time, and guess what, his shedding stopped during the 13th month to ZILCH hair in the shower..and his hairs started thickening up. his father was bald, his grandfather was bald, both his elder brothers were bald. he has hair and hes turning 28 this summer.
your hair looks fine, but i know what you mean cause i have the exact same level of hairloss... i have almost the same hairline, and the same thinning right behind the hairline was i cant make obvious through pictures so i dont take any. plus my sides have thinned and my back is thinning too.
my theory is, damage is a whole lot easier than repair. if you've been shedding hair for lets say, 6 months, then give finasteride AT LEAST twice the time period to help...
as for itching, my itching actually DEcreased when i stopped nizoral. its not gone totally, but its probably half as much now. be consistent with the finasteride and be a little more confident. 5.5 months is absolutely nOthing. you've got another 6.5 months to go.
best of luck.
i have a friend who was on finasteride for 13 months, was in total denial about it not working for him the entire time, and guess what, his shedding stopped during the 13th month to ZILCH hair in the shower..and his hairs started thickening up. his father was bald, his grandfather was bald, both his elder brothers were bald. he has hair and hes turning 28 this summer.
your hair looks fine, but i know what you mean cause i have the exact same level of hairloss... i have almost the same hairline, and the same thinning right behind the hairline was i cant make obvious through pictures so i dont take any. plus my sides have thinned and my back is thinning too.
my theory is, damage is a whole lot easier than repair. if you've been shedding hair for lets say, 6 months, then give finasteride AT LEAST twice the time period to help...
as for itching, my itching actually DEcreased when i stopped nizoral. its not gone totally, but its probably half as much now. be consistent with the finasteride and be a little more confident. 5.5 months is absolutely nOthing. you've got another 6.5 months to go.
best of luck.
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jeffsss said:
1_ Well, I thought you were not using any of those products anymore, as you stated here http://www.hairlosstalk.com/discussions ... hp?t=24253 yes, i know you are saying this a tickening mouse, but it makes the hair look wet anyways.
2_ Because people dont put their eyes close to your head to see under a strong light if you are balding or not. Nobody does that.
3_ No, but you are always considering an extreme situation that will probably never happen.
Even King Kong's hair will look like "thinning hair" under that situation.
Sir_LagaLot said:
thanks man..
Im just getting so frusterated.. i lose serious hair every day as you can see from my post in the "impact" section.. I litterally lose like 30-40 in the shower daily.
I'm going to stop nizoral i think.. while people say it's effective.. i never had an itch until starting it.. it's not FDA approved for hair loss etc..
I'm glad someone understands my pics.. i know only few do.. it's hard to tell in pics b/c your right.. i do still have a hair line.. but it sucks.. and it's thin everywehre.
thanks for your input man. I'm thinning on the sides as well.. dont know what to make of it?!!?
Sir_LagaLot
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yeah i know, i'm always bitching about itching. the thing is , like in your case, my itch got worse when i started using nizoral and i started getting the 'bruised' feeling more... i was rotating it with selsun blue w/ azelaic acid for a while and it didnt make things better.. so i stopped it altogether and though i still get the bruised feeling its alot better than beforee.. and i itch alot less. maybe nizoral isnt for everybody and it IS pretty harsh...
ok do this.. since you're pretty much in the same boat as me..
i've tried it and its worked WONDERS for me.. i mix a tablespoon of coconut oil + 1 tbspn of almond oil + 1 tbspn of olive oil.
apply the mixture to your scalp and massage in v. gently making sure it covers every bit of it. then leave it in for at least 2-3 hours, wash out with a mild johnsons baby shampoo for instance...
your scalp will feel reALLy healthy, and it might even help with the amount youre shedding. its incredable for inflamation.. the itch'll go away and the bruised feeling. and if you do it at least 2-3 times a week you should be able to tell a big difference. ps.. the oil also coats your hair and even after washing out w/ shampoo it'll seem thicker/healthier..cheap but effective for sure.
as for shedding 30-40 hair a day, tell me about it. this is my 8th month on finasteride, and i'm losing 40-60 hair everyday.. to tell you the truth..the last 3-4 days i've lost just 5 hair or so ..but i'm not gonna jinx it just yet... i also have been wearing a cap ALL the time when i'm awake to get a good estimate of how much i'm losing.. so its definitely decreased the last 3-4 days.. so stick to the finasteride for now... like i said before.. 5 months is absolutely nothing... i think probably 3/10 people get great results on finasteride within the first 3-6 months. it seems the other 7/10 get em later.
stick to the finasteride.. shampoo e.d with a mild shampoo...throw in something like t/gel but very seldom to counteract itching/dandruff if you have any. and use the oil i told you about as an extra. take a multi-vit with all this such as centrum or if you want, throw in some msm, it'll help your hair grow alot faster, and if theres any regrowth to be seen anytime soon it'll grow out alot faster too..
keep your fingers crossed...
like another user said, your hairloss is pretty much undetectable to the untrained eye.
ok do this.. since you're pretty much in the same boat as me..
i've tried it and its worked WONDERS for me.. i mix a tablespoon of coconut oil + 1 tbspn of almond oil + 1 tbspn of olive oil.
apply the mixture to your scalp and massage in v. gently making sure it covers every bit of it. then leave it in for at least 2-3 hours, wash out with a mild johnsons baby shampoo for instance...
your scalp will feel reALLy healthy, and it might even help with the amount youre shedding. its incredable for inflamation.. the itch'll go away and the bruised feeling. and if you do it at least 2-3 times a week you should be able to tell a big difference. ps.. the oil also coats your hair and even after washing out w/ shampoo it'll seem thicker/healthier..cheap but effective for sure.
as for shedding 30-40 hair a day, tell me about it. this is my 8th month on finasteride, and i'm losing 40-60 hair everyday.. to tell you the truth..the last 3-4 days i've lost just 5 hair or so ..but i'm not gonna jinx it just yet... i also have been wearing a cap ALL the time when i'm awake to get a good estimate of how much i'm losing.. so its definitely decreased the last 3-4 days.. so stick to the finasteride for now... like i said before.. 5 months is absolutely nothing... i think probably 3/10 people get great results on finasteride within the first 3-6 months. it seems the other 7/10 get em later.
stick to the finasteride.. shampoo e.d with a mild shampoo...throw in something like t/gel but very seldom to counteract itching/dandruff if you have any. and use the oil i told you about as an extra. take a multi-vit with all this such as centrum or if you want, throw in some msm, it'll help your hair grow alot faster, and if theres any regrowth to be seen anytime soon it'll grow out alot faster too..
keep your fingers crossed...
like another user said, your hairloss is pretty much undetectable to the untrained eye.
hellohello
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Jeff i think your in the same situation as me, still losing a lot of hairs even on treatments.
I have developed an itch which is strange as I never had it before treatments, i think it could be the NIzoral too... I'm gonna lay off it for a while.
Lets keep each other posted on if it helps stop the itch at all as I rekon its making things worse.
I have developed an itch which is strange as I never had it before treatments, i think it could be the NIzoral too... I'm gonna lay off it for a while.
Lets keep each other posted on if it helps stop the itch at all as I rekon its making things worse.
theendoftheend
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There's a good chance the 'itch' we all have felt at one point or another is psychosomatic.
Since thinking less about hair loss in the last 6 months my itch has gone away.
Since thinking less about hair loss in the last 6 months my itch has gone away.