Bars really aren't the best place to meet decent women who you would like to have a relationship with anyway imo. And having sex in a bus stop, what is wrong with these people?
so what is the ideal place to meet women? and what makes you think those women that you meet in the ideal places aren't going to bars and clubs at night? it really doesn't matter where you meet them.
if you want a long term relationship you get the jist of the person fairly quickly after talking to them for a bit.
When i was younger bars were usually just full of drunken sl*ts, and these women these chads picked up come across as being pretty slutty, the chads come across as being slutty too. What person over the age of 14 starts rating womens body parts? Anyway, i don't know where the first port of call to pick up a nice girl is but a bar would be at the bottom of my list.
Maybe it was just the bars i was going to lol
Ya minoxidil can make some people look like a reptile, large pores, blotchy skin. It’s sad pharma companies can’t take what works out of it and dump the collagen degrading agents.Lol. He might do 2bh. From what I know of him though, I'm 99% sure he's clean. Given he has hairloss I often wonder whether the damage is down to Minoxidil. minoxidil caused permanent, really pretty severe damage to my skin and I'm sure it's done the same to many others. One of these days I'll sneak up to him and whisper the magic words into his ear: "minoxidil or finasteride?"
you'd be surprised up to what age both women and men rate other people looks and body parts. hint: basically always.
Exactly. I don't understand how people can be unaware of this, to be honest. Literally go to a bar or keep your ears open on the tube and you'll hear it. Things girls talk about: (1) guys and whether "cute"/"hot" or not, (2) what their boyfriends or Mr X and Y were like in bed. I've heard these conversations so many times. How can you not know this? Lolyou'd be surprised up to what age both women and men rate other people looks and body parts. hint: basically always.
Juvenile? Perhaps. Does it still go on with both men AND women? Most definitely.I don't have any problem with rating someones looks from 1 to 10, but rating their body parts, making bets on who can bang or score with the hottest chick in the bar etc seems very juvenile to me.
Are you referring to my post here or what are you talking about?
Otherwise, I agree with your post.
Yeah, I feel you about the state of the forum. For whatever reason, the place doesn't have the buzz it once had. I mourn it's loss terribly. But perhaps these things go in cycles. We just have to home it will pick up again, and that new posters will come in to fill the old.This forum is already borderline dead and you guys want to drive away the NW2's? Loool.
To be honest, not even a cure for hairloss would fix my life now. I was one of the unlucky ones who got permanent sides from Minoxidil - like proper, serious, cardiac-related side effects as well as all the standard, skin based issues. Aesthetically and health-wise, a cure for hairloss wouldn't really matter to me. I hope for a cure purely for the sake of all the future bald kids, so that they may never have to suffer losing their hair. It really knocked me for six when I lost it so young and then sides from hair drugs only compounded things. If my hairloss had never happened, I would have been Chad. These days, the summit of my goals is a good career and a quick and pleasant death. That would do for me.Or hope we get an amazing cure and we can delete the whole site, never see each other again and live healthy, hairy lives.
You can reach NW4+ even when you started fast with all available treatments. There is just no treatment with 100% remaining for everybodyI'm so tired of this NW4+ gatekeeping by people who were too ignorant or lazy to counteract early enough.
Balding is balding.
I guess I would be scared about bad results after a long night dancing. Starting to talk with a girl as NW0.5 and later laying in her bed as NW4 (searching for 4000 grafts in her pillow) must look like a horror movie for a woman. Not because NW4 is the worst thing of the world, but because of the look-difference.Sounds like you should become Toppik chad.
Yes, this is what a friend of mine said also. He doesn't have any qualifications other than reading (a lot) about this stuff and observations, but he says that up until your late 40s you can coast on your genes. Smoking, drinking etc. All have effects but they're subtle and other than slightly dark eyes and the odd, small extra wrinkle, you won't notice them. Then, in your late 40s/50s it suddenly hits you and you look like you've been hit by a train. In severe cases, you'll even die. A bad lifestyle can take 10s of years off your life, but I agree that it doesn't effect youth. Other than being fat that is. Visible fat is not only unhealthy, it wrecks your aesthetics and prevent you from getting laid.
Good post but I disagree strongly with the notion that it doesn't matter what you do in your youth.
I'm about to turn 32 next week and I got carded in May buying alcohol (a present, mind you). I never smoked at all and didn't drink a lot (maybe 2-3 beers once in a quarter). Of course, it helps having a good head of hair, the right style, and the way you dress and so on but I also paid attention to what I did, ate and trained moderately but consistently throughout my life. No one ever guesses that I am above 30 or even close to that range.
Some of my friends who smoke got hit by a train HARD when they turned 30. You do notice the wrinkles and dark eyes! I always had an eye for stuff like that but since I became a Norwood spotter it hit me even harder. It's even worse for women. The wall is real. It's different for everybody but it is real. A lot of them got kids in the last few years. It's game over anyway then and while some do maintain their image a bit, most of them just age horribly within the span of just a few years. There's this girl I knew from 12 years ago and I checked up on her facebook the other day and she got a kid and has hormonal hairloss or whatever. She was always this beautiful alt type girl with bangs and so one. Now it's over. And for some of the men, alcohol is even worse than tobacco.
So by all means enjoy your life but don't pretend that this only matters or starts "when life is over." 30 is the new 20 and most people start out their lives then for real. You can still date really hot people and live a great life in your 30s, arguably an even better one because you're finally good at sex, have the means to travel and time (if you got no kids that is) and a disposable income will guarantee a cozy life with a bit of fun. Reality is: Most people look like absolute sh*t by the time they're 35, maybe even 30.
At which point in my post did I say that I lived a monk's life exactly?
I mean we obviously have a different set of a values but the it's actually quite amusing to see your psyche at work here. Most guys like you are so shortsighted, it honestly makes me pity you.
Again: Baseless and unnecessary gatekeeping and antagonizing because of a perception of me that you somehow have.
I will humor your proposition though for a moment: I would do something about it. Try treatments.
If they don't work or have an acceptable level of cosmetic results, shave my head and try to see if I can accept it and live with the burden.
If I couldn't, I would try out a hair system. They look good on most people, great even if you cover the hairline with a suiting style. A bit of a hassle, definitely, but I'd trythem out and use them if they made me happy.
If that doesn't turn out to be my way, I would look into transplants. I have done that already quite a lot because, you see, I am not shortsighted. Diffused NW5 at 28 is bad. I am sympathetic to anyone who has to deal with this terrible disease and especially under these circumstances. Transplants wouldn't really be a good option in that case imho but if it really, truly bothered me that much, I would just get a good hairline band done and at least have my face framed nicely and deal with toppik until cloning is possible.
You see, this is an escalating strategy. But I am also proactive at least. Just like I am now by taking finasteride. But do you know what I wouldn't do? Go on an online forum where fellow male pattern baldness sufferers look for camaraderie and tell people their opinions are wrong because their level of hairloss isn't as bad as mine.