About ready to call Dr Reddy fake

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collegechemistrystudent said:
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if you want peace of mind, stick with GSK avodart and avoid the generics
sure, those counterfeiters are too stupid to even think of faking GSK avodart :roll:

which company has more to lose? which company has more resources and money to try and track down fakes and influence government policy to ban those fakes?

testing drugs is so expensive that not even the main pharmacies do it. an extimated 10% of drugs at walgreens are fake.

I think that's an over-estimation CCS. I checked the WHO website:

1. Most industrialized countries with effective regulatory systems and market control (e.g. USA, most of EU, Australia, Canada, Japan, New Zealand) have a low proportion, i.e. less than 1% of market value
2. Many countries in Africa and parts of Asia and Latin America have areas where more that 30% of the medicines on sale can be counterfeit, while other developing markets have less than 10%; overall, a reasonable range is between 10% and 30%
3. Many of the former Soviet republics have a proportion of counterfeit medicines which is above 20% of market value — this falls into the developing country range
4. Medicines purchased over the Internet from sites that conceal their physical address are counterfeit in over 50% of cases.
 

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hair today gone tomorrow said:
collegechemistrystudent said:
aussieavodart said:
roki said:
aussieavodart said:
if you want peace of mind, stick with GSK avodart and avoid the generics
sure, those counterfeiters are too stupid to even think of faking GSK avodart :roll:

which company has more to lose? which company has more resources and money to try and track down fakes and influence government policy to ban those fakes?

testing drugs is so expensive that not even the main pharmacies do it. an extimated 10% of drugs at walgreens are fake.

where do you get that 10% figure from? I seriously doubt that drugs at a U.S. pharmacy are fake.

an FDA report I read at http://www.fda.gov
 

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When they counterfeit them, do they just use inactive ingredient, or do they put some other drug in there, or do they put a similar chemical in there that would make it hard for FDA to tell the difference?
 

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i wonder if there is someway of tracing these products back to GSK to see if they are real?

like, we could email GSK and ask who they distribute to, then email the distributers and ask who they sell to ie melonipharma/elitenet/whoever else sells GSK stuff
 

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collegechemistrystudent said:
When they counterfeit them, do they just use inactive ingredient, or do they put some other drug in there, or do they put a similar chemical in there that would make it hard for FDA to tell the difference?

The story on the FDA website you linked to suggests that practice differs - they may put inactives in or a different active ingredient. The WHO website gives examples of fakes with toxic ingredients.
 

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I wish GSK avodart was not $90 per month. And $60 for a 6 month prescription adds $10.
 

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collegechemistrystudent said:
I wish GSK avodart was not $90 per month. And $60 for a 6 month prescription adds $10.

You getting disillusioned with Inhouse Dutas then CCS? I thought you reckoned it was kosher stuff from a reliable supplier? Didn't you do an UV spectrometer analysis on it?
 
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Pondle said:
collegechemistrystudent said:
I wish GSK avodart was not $90 per month. And $60 for a 6 month prescription adds $10.

You getting disillusioned with Inhouse Dutas then CCS? I thought you reckoned it was kosher stuff from a reliable supplier? Didn't you do an UV spectrometer analysis on it?

The first time he did it he proclaimed it fake. Then he re-analyzed it and said it was "probably" real. Truth be told, CCS is a college student as you know and he is not qualified to test drugs.
 

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I emailed Inhouse with a range of questions about their Dutas supply, whether their wholesaler is in the public domain etc. I figure that if we can be confident in their supply chain, most concerns will be addressed. They didn't really answer my questions, just sent me this:

HI Jon

Although there are a lot of scam websites out there, we are not one of them! We've been in business for over 10 years now. We have no doubt concerning authenticity of any of the medications we supply.

We purchase either directly from the manufacturer or from our pharmaceutical wholesaler. All medications listed are the authentic brand names unless otherwise stated eg generics and all our medications are shipped using the original packaging with safety seals and registered trademarks. We do not ever repackage the products unless the product is sold in blister strips (but we list this).

Every product has a product image included on the website so you will know what to expect on delivery. The only differences that a customer may perceive is that the packaging may be different compared to what they are used to. This is due to where in the world the medication is manufactured; US manufactured products may be packaged in bottles compared to UK packaged product in blister strips and a box. Please be assured that the products are of the highest quality purhased from reputable sources.

The generic Dutas is just as effective as the brand name. Dutas is a very
popular seller due to the effectiveness and cost compared to Avodart.

Sincerely
Lisa
 

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Pondle, I don't know what to think about inhouse after dr Reddy's answer but
me and my brother have taken strong generic painkillers from them. No differences with the brand ones bought in pharmacy (chemist). It is very easy to test: in 1 hour you know.

If your only chance to have Dutasteride is through internet, this might help: There is a test called "specific prostate antigen" or something like that (I am trastating literally from Spanish). It is for people with prostate problems. If you go to your GP, and you can do that check, the results of the analysis should be inequivocal. If you take dutasteride, that antigen should be reduced from 100 - 80 to 20 - 30. (Fictional figures, just to make an idea). Then, you know you are taking the real thing.
 

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I've got to say the d*mn stuff is real since it's actually affecting my sex drive. :-x

Inhousepharmcy, yes.

Just an FYI.
 

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Sean68 said:
i just went in and asked. i bought it from an online uk pharmacy not realising i would need one. i noticed on the invoice that it needed one and
i was nearing the end of my supply so i just had to bite the bullet and do it.

theres two scripts in the uk - private and nhs. with private you have to pay full cost(£40) and nhs is subsidised.

nhs scripts dont apply to 'vanity drugs' propecia being one of them but
as avodart isnt prescribed for hairloss yet its not classed as one so you can get it on the nhs. that must be why it was so cheap.

hey Sean68, how easy was it to get a Avodart prescription from your GP? what did you tell them? Some GP Ive heard can real arseholes about the subject of hairloss... Was it a male GP or female? Ive always found female GP's to be the more friendly and understanding to issues...
 

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The female GP I initially saw was a total a**hole. Don't judge me, I'm here for a goddamn service, all I'm asking for is a flipping private prescription, I'm not making any call upon the NHS and I need a mere 2 mins of your overpaid time! Jeez. Sorry, rant over.

Anyways, if you can get a private prescription, the prices here don't look too bad, comparing Avodart to Propecia. But personally I would just buy from Merlonipharma, they are 100% legit... generics from Inhouse Pharmacy seem absolutely fine too.
 

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I think you should test your hormone level of dht. Take only your dutasteride and you will see, if your dht level is reduced.

best regards
demo99
 
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Pondle said:
The female GP I initially saw was a total a**hole. Don't judge me, I'm here for a G**d*** service, all I'm asking for is a flipping private prescription, I'm not making any call upon the NHS and I need a mere 2 mins of your overpaid time! Jeez. Sorry, rant over.

Anyways, if you can get a private prescription, the prices here don't look too bad, comparing Avodart to Propecia. But personally I would just buy from Merlonipharma, they are 100% legit... generics from Inhouse Pharmacy seem absolutely fine too.


I think when it comes to male pattern baldness one shouldn´t expect too much sympathy from some stupid c***. Best is to look for a dermatologist who is bald as well.
 

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StallionX said:
been using dr reddy from united pharmacy's.. do you guys feel that is sufficiently "real"?

when i was using it i certaintly didnt feel it was as effective as when i was taking avodart. And when i doubled the dailt dose of dr reddy dutasteride to 1.0mg a day to try boost the effects i got sick. Badly sick.

But thats just my experience, others say that have got good results from said pharmacy and said product.
 

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I have experienced good results with Dr. Reddy's dutasteride. However, it would be nice to be able to use real Avodart. Financially, its not feasible right now though. I have also been through some pretty scary times too. As told by many people here, persistence is key. Right now, its all good.
 
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