All Treatments Have Failed (change My Mind)

[ruffledfeathers]

you literally don't even know the difference between tusji and rch-01 and I'm the idiot here???

LMAO kid stop hiding from the fact that you are uneducated and clueless

also once again you are exposing your lack of scientific understanding and knowledge, as if you actually knew what you were talking about you would know most if not all major finasteride studies were also conducted using similar methods of comparing baselines to the placebo group

but yet you are not in here calling finasteride a medical failure

hmmm i wonder why

Finasteride does exactly what it was designed to for BPH. By suppressing the most potent male hormone in the body. It was a success in the BPH world, but for the hair loss world, I'm not convinced. I don't believe that the long term suppression of the most potent hormone in the male body along with disruption of brain chemicals is an acceptable side effect to any extent in my eyes for a cosmetic condition. You can disagree with that, as I know most people on here will. But that's the beauty of personal choice. But I do not want to go off on a tangent on finasteride here and will not be entertaining any further discussions around it unless it relates to new research. I've tried it personally, it's not for me. I believe it to be dangerous. I'm happy for people who it's helped, but I believe the risk to be understated. And I'll leave it at that.

 

[ruffledfeathers]

if you knew anything about medical sciences and the processes involved in these procedures you would understand that delays are inevitable and that a company is not always going to be fully transparent about their results and processes of a product that has not even reached market yet.....

but once again you are showing that you are just an immature child who wants to whine instead of putting 1+1 together

Which one of us is the immature child. The one with an open mind hoping that I got something wrong and willing to have discussions to change my mindset? Or the guy calling people mentally retarded over internet. I'll let others be the judge. I will concede that I was wrong about RCH-01. I knew that the compound was being developed by different companies, I think in Mexico and Canada as well. For some reason I got my facts mixed up and thought Tsjui was apart of the RCH-01 licensing and tied in with all of that. I was wrong about that. But my fact still stands, that none of the stem cell companies has provided human trial data results yet.

 

[OneDay_NW0]

It's not Tsujis Job to boost the feelings of some depressive Kids. Let those guys do their work and when you see the first side free results in human trials, it will propably go fast until it's available. Stem Cell Treatment is just 95% pure science and 5% human Testing.
As long a company has enough Money and Trust from their Shareholders, there is no need to drop a News every month.

I hate those people who probably haven't read one scientific paper in their Llife, blaming scientists for solving very very complicated Problems not fast enough.

 

[ruffledfeathers]

It's not Tsujis Job to boost the feelings of some depressive Kids. Let those guys do their work and when you see the first side free results in human trials, it will propably go fast until it's available. Stem Cell Treatment is just 95% pure science and 5% human Testing.
As long a company has enough Money and Trust from their Shareholders, there is no need to drop a News every month.

I hate those people who probably haven't read one scientific paper in their Llife, blaming scientists for solving very very complicated Problems not fast enough.

I have done nothing but read journals, papers, and studies for the past year now. And better yet, I can spell "life" correctly. I was hoping someone would post some actual studies or press releases from the companies that I missed. But instead I'm sitting here watching you and @WeStayCooling give each other smooth handjobs while companies that have "breakthrough stem cell research" are hiding their failures behind silence. If you have no actual data that shows progress in human trials, don't post. I've made this thread to read data from companies that I have missed. Not listen to you two baldies lose your composure and take out your anger on a kid who just wants to learn more and be proven wrong.

 

[WeStayCooling]

I have done nothing but read journals, papers, and studies for the past year now. And better yet, I can spell "life" correctly. I was hoping someone would post some actual studies or press releases from the companies that I missed. But instead I'm sitting here watching you and @WeStayCooling give each other smooth handjobs while companies that have "breakthrough stem cell research" are hiding their failures behind silence. If you have no actual data that shows progress in human trials, don't post. I've made this thread to read data from companies that I have missed. Not listen to you two baldies lose your composure and take out your anger on a kid who just wants to learn more and be proven wrong.

there is none yet available to the public

but once again, as i have said repeatedly, if you have really been doing intensive knowledge for a year you would know that by now, once again confirming that you are clueless and made this thread to concern troll

also funny how you call me bald when you've admitted to being a NW3 in another thread, and you're a NW3 at 22.....LOL and you're calling us the bald ones?

sorry you'll be bald before 25 kid

 

[Fgsfds]

Don't forget about J Hewitt. He a real *** nigga who don't fucks around

 

[ruffledfeathers]

there is none yet available to the public

but once again, as i have said repeatedly, if you have really been doing intensive knowledge for a year you would know that by now, once again confirming that you are clueless and made this thread to concern troll

also funny how you call me bald when you've admitted to being a NW3 in another thread, and you're a NW3 at 22.....LOL and you're calling us the bald ones?

sorry you'll be bald before 25 kid

I thought I was a NW2 or NW3, but I overestimated. I posted in reddit and everyone said I was barely losing a NW1. I realized I was being too hard on myself and after looking at pictures from my childhood, it's barely moved. All the males in my family have pretty similar hair all the way through age, roughly what I have now. But I want my slight thinning on the edges to be thickened up. I don't want to lose that.

At least 80% of my research and papers I have read have revolved around finasteride/minoxidil and other current treatments. The only new chemical I researched thoroughly is CB-03-01, because that was the one that seemed most hopeful to me. The other ones I've researched briefly but every avenue I go down, doesn't look good. I don't know very much about the stem cell world, because studies are harder to come by. I just know the companies pursuing this have been silent and pushing back their pipelines constantly and haven't proven anything in humans. A lot of people seemed to be pretty upset with them, and I agree with their reasons.

 

[ruffledfeathers]

Don't forget about J Hewitt. He a real *** nigga who don't fucks around

Seems pretty similar to replicel? I have only read about this guy once on FollicleThought. Any good links your recommend for this guy I can read up on?

 

[WeStayCooling]

I thought I was a NW2 or NW3, but I overestimated. I posted in reddit and everyone said I was barely losing a NW1. I realized I was being too hard on myself and after looking at pictures from my childhood, it's barely moved. All the males in my family have pretty similar hair all the way through age, roughly what I have now. But I want my slight thinning on the edges to be thickened up. I don't want to lose that.

At least 80% of my research and papers I have read have revolved around finasteride/minoxidil and other current treatments. The only new chemical I researched thoroughly is CB-03-01, because that was the one that seemed most hopeful to me. The other ones I've researched briefly but every avenue I go down, doesn't look good. I don't know very much about the stem cell world, because studies are harder to come by. I just know the companies pursuing this have been silent and pushing back their pipelines constantly and haven't proven anything in humans. A lot of people seemed to be pretty upset with them, and I agree with their reasons.

lol I would be the richest man on the planet for every time i have read someone who is balding say they their hairline was like that as a child LOL

the cope is real bruh

and yes people are upset because people in these communities are manchildren that are always upset about balding and depressive because of it
as a nw3 yourself, i'm sure you can understand

already you have made this bogus thread, clearly exposing your neurotic behavior

 

[ruffledfeathers]

lol I would be the richest man on the planet for every time i have read someone who is balding say they their hairline was like that as a child LOL

the cope is real bruh

and yes people are upset because people in these communities are manchildren that are always upset about balding and depressive because of it
as a nw3 yourself, i'm sure you can understand

already you have made this bogus thread, clearly exposing your neurotic behavior

I have a tiny mole right under my hairline that I was able to find a picture when i was 11 and my hairline was right next to that mole, just like it was now. I normally wear my hair pretty long so it was never super obvious. But theirs no question that I have a few miniaturized hairs that I want to save.

 

[WeStayCooling]

I have a tiny mole right under my hairline that I was able to find a picture when i was 11 and my hairline was right next to that mole, just like it was now. I normally wear my hair pretty long so it was never super obvious. But theirs no question that I have a few miniaturized hairs that I want to save.

you are coping so hard right now it's unbelievable LOL

you are already balding at 22 which is extremely aggressive age to start, you are guaranteed to go bald before 30 my dude

unless these treatments coming out work

BUT OH WAIT YOU ALREADY DECLARED THEM A FAILURE

so i guess you're fucked bruh, go shave right this instance

 

[ruffledfeathers]

you are coping so hard right now it's unbelievable LOL

you are already balding at 22 which is extremely aggressive age to start, you are guaranteed to go bald before 30 my dude

unless these treatments coming out work

BUT OH WAIT YOU ALREADY DECLARED THEM A FAILURE

so i guess you're fucked bruh, go shave right this instance

Plenty of people thin slightly and then it stops. I'm starting to seriously question your understanding of balding. If you think that everyone who has slight thinning in their 20s goes bald before their 30s you are clinically insane. And I feel bad for you. Truth is, yes noticing any thinning at this young of age sucks. I am scary and I'm quite sad about it. I didn't expect to see any, although I know it won't get that bad because none of the men on either side of my family have any super noticeable hair loss and my hair hasn't thinned any more since I noticed a year ago. You remind me of playing xbox live when I was 12 and having kids on call of duty telling me to kill myself. I feel very bad for you.

 

[WeStayCooling]

Plenty of people thin slightly and then it stops. I'm starting to seriously question your understanding of balding. If you think that everyone who has slight thinning in their 20s goes bald before their 30s you are clinically insane. And I feel bad for you. Truth is, yes noticing any thinning at this young of age sucks. I am scary and I'm quite sad about it. I didn't expect to see any, although I know it won't get that bad because none of the men on either side of my family have any super noticeable hair loss and my hair hasn't thinned any more since I noticed a year ago. You remind me of playing xbox live when I was 12 and having kids on call of duty telling me to kill myself. I feel very bad for you.

you admitted to being a Norwood 3 already, and if you haven't noticed further thinning as you have stated, why have you also made a thread inquiring about buying CB online?

would someone who isn't thinning more really be willing to be an unreleased drug from a sketchy chinese website at exorbitant prices?

of course they wouldn't

you are coping buddy

and if you knew anything about hairloss you would know that you could have 0 loss in your family and still go completely bald

my advice to you is to stop being a hysterical little kid making low quality threads such as this and do your own research on these treatments that will be coming up

you're obviously going to need them

 

[ruffledfeathers]

you admitted to being a Norwood 3 already, and if you haven't noticed further thinning as you have stated, why have you also made a thread inquiring about buying CB online?

would someone who isn't thinning more really be willing to be an unreleased drug from a sketchy chinese website at exorbitant prices?

of course they wouldn't

you are coping buddy

and if you knew anything about hairloss you would know that you could have 0 loss in your family and still go completely bald

my advice to you is to stop being a hysterical little kid making low quality threads such as this and do your own research on these treatments that will be coming up

you're obviously going to need them

I'm done entertaining you. I'm actually laughing as a type this. You are incredibly sad and disillusion. Your countless personal attacks I see as a cry for help. I don't know who hurt you or why you have so much anger and aggression inside you, but I really hope things do get better for you. And whatever problems you have outside of your hairloss get better and you can live a happier life. Best of luck to you. I won't be responding to you anymore, it's clear you have nothing to offer. I know you have many more names left to call me and that will some how validate your shitty mindset that has clearly consumed you as a person, so I'll be the bigger person and let you have the last word here.

If anyone else has anything to actually offer, I would love to have a discussion.

 

[hairloss_user]

$100K - $300K for RCH-01? Yeah, I must have missed some very important news. Or maybe not lol.

 

[ruffledfeathers]

$100K - $300K for RCH-01? Yeah, I must have missed some very important news. Or maybe not lol.

https://www.hairlosscure2020.com/dr-tsujis-hair-loss-cure-in-2020-will-be-costly/
Here is the video where Tsuji give the price in Japeneese currency.

 

[Ollie]

RCH-01 was licensed to Shiseido due to the lack of red tape in Japan and the lack of funding for Replicel. The price ages ago was quoted to be roughly 1k USD - i believe it was actually quoted on the japanese twiiter account for one of the companies.. Cant remember. Anyway.. the safety trial results were released last year and showed the best responder was 22% above baseline after 2 years. Not great considering most were back at baseline.

Hopefully the efficacy trials are nothing like the safety ones. I will say however that stem cell based treatments are amazing ...for injuries. Androgenetic Alopecia is a progressive disease. Whilst stem cells will have great potential at revitalising damaged follicles, dont expect much from regrowth if you dont even have maintenance as you'll basically be just fighting the damage.

 

[hairloss_user]

https://www.hairlosscure2020.com/dr-tsujis-hair-loss-cure-in-2020-will-be-costly/
Here is the video where Tsuji give the price in Japeneese currency.

That is Tsuji. It's a different treatment and company.

 

[Vinc2097]

Not bald yet. Barely hanging on to my NW1. I am just interested in how I can prevent any loss as I age. I've followed the science for a while and been lurking on forums for around a year now. Not mentally retarded, just disappointed and skeptical and frustrated that all the companies I have had faith in have delayed their results and skew the presentation of their data so it's hard to decipher how bad their results really were. Take CB-03-01 for example. Incredible results in 6 months comparing growth to baseline. Then in 12 months, the growth cut in half and instead they skewed their results by comparing growth in the drug group to recession in the placebo group. So it looks better. If they would have compared the data like they did at 6 months, by comparing growth in the drug group to baseline of the drug group, it would have shown it as a clear failure from an efficacy standpoint. But they skewed it, making comparing 6 month data and 12 month data to be impossible. I'm tired of practices like this. The deliberate misrepresentation and all the delays in updates are why I have the opinion of all current drugs in the pipeline have failed in one way or another. I want to be hopeful, we all do.

Post a picture of your hair now so we can take you seriously. ''hanging on to norwood 1'', LMAO. You are hair loss gotta be so minimal, how old are you ?

 

[WeStayCooling]

That is Tsuji. It's a different treatment and company.

i've only told him this about 5 times now you think he would understand by now