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You could purchase a dropper which measures 0.1ml (equivalent to 5mg Minoxidil) and put it in an empty capsule?
Are people warming up to the idea of Oral Minoxidil as a treatment?
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almost! one should take 1 ml of a 5% minoxidil topical solution and add 19 ml of pure ethanol to get a 2.5 mg minoxidil/ml solution. Do not use water because minoxidil dissolves only poorly in water. I prefer pure ethanol but it's expensive, wodka will do if you don't have ethanol.
If you're using common 60 ml bottles take 3 ml 5% topical and add 57 ml ethanol or wodka. Be sure to use graduated 1 ml droppers like these to accurately measure topical volume and a graduated measuring cylinder like this one to accurately measure the amount of ethanol or wodka which should be added. This method is much more accurate than trying to measure like 0.1 ml which is impossible to do without professional equipment. And you need to be accurate because you don't want to accidentally overdose minoxidil.
Ingest 1 ml per day of the diluted solution to get 2.5 mg minoxidil/day. Adjust accordingly if you want to take 5 mg per day. Please note: anyone unsure about the math involved and actually diluting stuff, do not try this at home. Just stick to putting minoxidil on your head ;-)
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Or buy the tablets or try and get a prescription. Right?
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getting a prescription is the preferred way yes!
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There's no need to dilute 5% minoxidil.. Take the damn dropper, fill it with 1ml of 5% minoxidil and then slowly empty it and count the number of droplets 1ml contains. In my case it's around 40 droplets (it depends on the dropper). So 2 droplets is equal to around 2.5mg. Put 2 droplets under your tongue, wait 5 mins, wash it down with large glass of water. Done. Never had any issues doing it like that and you also don't have to fill your mouth with large amounts of disgusting ethanol and PG.
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this method is highly inaccurate regarding the amount of minoxidil you're getting and I would advise against it.
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Explain why.
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in your case: 40 droplets = 1 ml. quick google search: 20 droplets is 1 ml (screenshot below). too may variables (atmospheric pressure, temperature, viscosity, % ethanol, % water, dropper opening size, etc etc) all influence droplet size. and even if you personally got 40 droplets from 1 ml today, it might be 30 next week bc of these changing variables. meaning: droplet size changes over time. if I were you I would only use your method after calibrating 3 x every time before I'd get a dose.
you're playing with potentially dangerous medicine here so [1] get a prescription, [2] dilute minoxidil topical as I described or [3] stick with putting it on your head.
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Well yes, it obviously depends on the dropper. Different droppers have different droplet sizes and therefor different amount of droplets in 1ml.
And not just that, it also depends on liquid viscosity. You have to calibrate it with the exact liquid you plan on using and not water for example.
Get a good quality precise dropper (not the plastic crap included) and regularly check the number of droplets in 1ml is consistent. I would also wash it after every use so that there's no 'sediment' buildup inside when it dries.
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I finally had my appointment to visit a dermatologist today and he was unwilling to prescribe me oral minoxidil and instead advised I use either finasteride, dutasteride, PRP, and lastly a hair transplant if I ever wanted to go that route.
He did however say he would reach out to my primary doctor/GP to discuss the possibility of my GP prescribing oral minoxidil. So I decided to message my GP with several of the abstracts from studies just now. Hopefully he will see both the message from the dermatologist and my message. And help me get a prescription.
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He did however say he would reach out to my primary doctor/GP to discuss the possibility of my GP prescribing oral minoxidil. So I decided to message my GP with several of the abstracts from studies just now. Hopefully he will see both the message from the dermatologist and my message. And help me get a prescription.
Oral minoxidil treatment for hair loss: A review of efficacy and safety - PubMed
Oral minoxidil was found to be an effective and well-tolerated treatment alternative for healthy patients having difficulty with topical formulations.
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Safety of low-dose oral minoxidil for hair loss: A multicenter study of 1404 patients - PubMed
LDOM has a good safety profile as a treatment for hair loss. Systemic adverse effects were infrequent and only 1.7% of patients discontinued treatment owing to adverse effects.
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Low-dose oral minoxidil as treatment for non-scarring alopecia: a systematic review - PubMed
Oral minoxidil is a safe and successful treatment of androgenic alopecia and AA. In addition to its therapeutic benefits, practical advantages over topical minoxidil stem from improved patient compliance.
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Efficacy and Safety of Oral Minoxidil 5 mg Once Daily in the Treatment of Male Patients with Androgenetic Alopecia: An Open-Label and Global Photographic Assessment - PubMed
Oral minoxidil 5 mg once daily effectively increased hair growth in our male patients with Androgenetic Alopecia and had a good safety profile in healthy subjects. However, oral minoxidil should be used carefully with men who have severe hypertension and increased risk for cardiovascular events.
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Review of oral minoxidil as treatment of hair disorders: in search of the perfect dose - PubMed
Topical minoxidil has been used for many years as treatment for different hair disorders. Even though it is an effective therapy, many patients show poor compliance due to the cosmesis, cost and side-effects. During the last few years, low-dose oral minoxidil has proven to be an alternative for...
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Did he say why he wouldn't prescribe it?I finally had my appointment to visit a dermatologist today and he was unwilling to prescribe me oral minoxidil and instead advised I use either finasteride, dutasteride, PRP, and lastly a hair transplant if I ever wanted to go that route.
He did however say he would reach out to my primary doctor/GP to discuss the possibility of my GP prescribing oral minoxidil. So I decided to message my GP with several of the abstracts from studies just now. Hopefully he will see both the message from the dermatologist and my message. And help me get a prescription.
Oral minoxidil treatment for hair loss: A review of efficacy and safety - PubMed
Oral minoxidil was found to be an effective and well-tolerated treatment alternative for healthy patients having difficulty with topical formulations.
Safety of low-dose oral minoxidil for hair loss: A multicenter study of 1404 patients - PubMed
LDOM has a good safety profile as a treatment for hair loss. Systemic adverse effects were infrequent and only 1.7% of patients discontinued treatment owing to adverse effects.
Low-dose oral minoxidil as treatment for non-scarring alopecia: a systematic review - PubMed
Oral minoxidil is a safe and successful treatment of androgenic alopecia and AA. In addition to its therapeutic benefits, practical advantages over topical minoxidil stem from improved patient compliance.
Efficacy and Safety of Oral Minoxidil 5 mg Once Daily in the Treatment of Male Patients with Androgenetic Alopecia: An Open-Label and Global Photographic Assessment - PubMed
Oral minoxidil 5 mg once daily effectively increased hair growth in our male patients with Androgenetic Alopecia and had a good safety profile in healthy subjects. However, oral minoxidil should be used carefully with men who have severe hypertension and increased risk for cardiovascular events.
Review of oral minoxidil as treatment of hair disorders: in search of the perfect dose - PubMed
Topical minoxidil has been used for many years as treatment for different hair disorders. Even though it is an effective therapy, many patients show poor compliance due to the cosmesis, cost and side-effects. During the last few years, low-dose oral minoxidil has proven to be an alternative for...
Weird that he wouldn't prescribe it himself but yet is happy for you to take it via the GP. Sounds like he is only caring about his own responsibility.
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While he was friendly that is also how it came across to me.
He even made a comment about how he could be asked "Doctor, why did you prescribe this patient oral minoxidil/hypertension drug even though you're a dermatologist?"
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The dermatologist and my primary doctor discussed the matter and I'll be starting 2.5mg Oral Minoxidil this week.
I figured it should either be 1.25mg or 2.5mg but I'll get a 4 months supply and hopefully it will work out for me.
I figured it should either be 1.25mg or 2.5mg but I'll get a 4 months supply and hopefully it will work out for me.
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I got the prescription from my primary today.
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Update:
Too early to see any growth I'd imagine but I have noticed a bit more dandruff and a bit of itchiness at about 3 weeks in. No edema or swelling, no dizziness or headaches or fatigue, and no heart issues.
I believe the itchiness and dandruff could be similar to the shedding process many experience because the scalp is going through a new growth stage.
Too early to see any growth I'd imagine but I have noticed a bit more dandruff and a bit of itchiness at about 3 weeks in. No edema or swelling, no dizziness or headaches or fatigue, and no heart issues.
I believe the itchiness and dandruff could be similar to the shedding process many experience because the scalp is going through a new growth stage.
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I'm pretty certain you don't drink the Kirkland solution! It contains delivery ingredients for skin absorption etc.