Are We "privileged" To Be Of The First Generation With Treatments/hair Transplants/ False Hope Cures

[GornMyson]

Still hairloss could be considered something related to the "private" sphere. Today you are always bald, or a "hat prisoner".
Also Consider that there are still categories of people who cannot benefit from modern treatments:
- diffuse thinners (no hair transplant)
- women (no fina)
- people with ED (no fina)

Hey I'm just trying to find a prospective cope before I fade to black. How do you think hairless was looked at during medieval times ?

 

[Roberto_72]

Hey I'm trying to find a prospective cope before I fade to black. How do you think hairless was looked at during medieval times ?

Haha
I knew you would say that
I am not trying to antagonize you. I am just playing the devil's advocate.
I do think we live in more fortunate times for balding men. IF you are lucky too. My father is NW8 and I am only NW3 thanks to transplants and finasteride. Just one generation later!

But let us not forget some of us get NO advantage from hair transplant or fina.

Hair loss was always ridiculed, in all times. Even in Ancient Rome.

 

[Roberto_72]

Gosh read this (wiki)

In Ancient Rome it was desirable for men to have a full head of hair. This would be a problem for Julius Caesar. Being bald was considered a deformity at the time, so Caesar went to great pains to hiding his thinning hair. And because of it he used to comb his thin locks forward over the crown of his head. Caesar had epilepsy and a large bald spot. Suetonius wrote: "His baldness was something that greatly bothered him." Caesar was allowed by the Senate to wear a Laurel crown with which he was able to mask his receding hairline.


PS: emperorcel

 

[JohnsonDDG]

50s
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After the 50s
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Glad he's dead

Shot by bald rights activists (BRA's)

 

[infinitepain]

Let's see:

1) Rampant social media where good looking guys get unlimited sex with crazy hot girls while you rot
2) Girls are looking better than ever and start looking hot and have pornstar skills by age 15 and you are missing all the fun due faulty genetics
3) The pinnacle of treatments is a 1997 tranny drug that gets rid of 70% of the most potent male hormone with nothing new and tangible to be released anytime soon
4) Never endlessly posting on internet forums while Chad doesn't know what an internet forum is. Spend weekends inside while Chad pump and dumps 7+/10 prime pussy with his NW0 high DHT big c***/naturally low bodyfat body

No, we are as fucked as it gets.

 

[Notcoolanymore]

or at least some false hope of a miracle cure.

Snake oils have been around for decades, maybe even longer.

 

[g.i joey]

The last thing any of us are is "privileged"

 

[hairblues]

Please take into consideration that society was less focused on looks back then. In fact, most people were married before they were even 20, long before many of them would have noticed any hair loss.

You don't think women were focused on looks? or men focused on womans looks?

IF anything that was all women had to offer society--well and family money perhaps if wealthy i guess.

 

[JohnsonDDG]

You don't think women were focused on looks? or men focused on womans looks?

IF anything that was all women had to offer society--well and family money perhaps if wealthy i guess.

Yes, that answer was definitely relating to men.

The only thing I know about courting in the 1800s is from Jane Austen novels and if she was accurate then family titles, wealth, and land were very often factors which made a woman a 'catch'.

 

[SmoothSailing]

For men looks have become much more important.

Environmental stresses have been decreased to almost nil in western countries, almost no one is in danger of going hungry, not having a place to live, not having security, not having access to medicine, not having some basic luxuries, or not having a good environment to raise kids.

Because of this, your ability to provide environmental benefits is much less important than your genetic profile. They were both always important, but in the past you could compensate for bad looks, more so than today, with intelligence, perseverance, good skills, status, wealth. As these things were much more important for a woman in order to successfully raise kids/have a good life.

Nowadays most women can look after food, shelter, basic luxuries and a good environment to raise kids themselves. Police provide security, government provides healthcare. So these are less important when choosing a mate.

There are also many other reasons which have been outlined already in this thread.

 

[yetti]

Trust me I know I don't feel privileged in the slightest but we sometimes talk like we are the only generation to go through this. I can't imagine it was anymore fun to go bald 300 years ago. So the fact that even if finasteride only gave us just a 5% chance of keeping are hair that's pretty crazy. All my bald ancestors never stood a chance.

this is something i often think about, but in regard to glasses/ contacts. how lucky we are to be alive now rather than from just a few hundred years ago till the beginning of time. can you imagine stumbling around with horribly blurry vision, all the time? now THAT would suck.

 

[SmoothSailing]

this is something i often think about, but in regard to glasses/ contacts. how lucky we are to be alive now rather than from just a few hundred years ago till the beginning of time. can you imagine stumbling around with horribly blurry vision, all the time? now THAT would suck.

Reading and being indoors so often causes strain on your eyes, because of this people often develop bad eyesight in their youth. In the past, when we were more so focusing on distant objects, our eyes wouldn't have been strained so much. Thus poor eyesight would be less common and less severe. Otherwise it would likely have been eliminated by evolution.

http://www.freedom-vision.co.uk/news/what-causes-bad-eyesight/

 

[JohnsonDDG]

Looks have become of the utmost importance, and they are now even more important than real talents and qualities. I know all too well the feeling of being surpassed in almost every field by less talented people only because of their good looks and seeing them treated like demi-gods, praised and easily forgiven.

The thing with looks is most people deteriorate in their 30s and are invisible in their 40s.

So if your own strong point is your looks then you will be pretty miserable in middle age.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

The thing with looks is most people deteriorate in their 30s and are invisible in their 40s.

So if your own strong point is your looks then you will be pretty miserable in middle age.

Disagree. There is value in being better looking than your peers.

 

[yetti]

Reading and being indoors so often causes strain on your eyes, because of this people often develop bad eyesight in their youth. In the past, when we were more so focusing on distant objects, our eyes wouldn't have been strained so much. Thus poor eyesight would be less common and less severe. Otherwise it would likely have been eliminated by evolution.

http://www.freedom-vision.co.uk/news/what-causes-bad-eyesight/

true and i have read that too, but most definitely some people had terrible vision eons ago, as now. it no more need be eliminated by evolution than the billion other health problems that persist.

 

[Notcoolanymore]

how lucky we are to be alive now rather than from just a few hundred years ago till the beginning of time. can you imagine stumbling around with horribly blurry vision, all the time?

True, but it was probably much easier for bad looking men to get laid.

 

[kj6723]

The thing with looks is most people deteriorate in their 30s and are invisible in their 40s.

So if your own strong point is your looks then you will be pretty miserable in middle age.

Disagree. There is value in being better looking than your peers.

I've reunited with high school friends over the last year at a couple weddings. We're in our late 20's now, and people are already starting to look rough...dad bods + moderate levels of balding

These encounters give me all the motivation I need to continue heavily monitoring my aesthetics

 

[Roberto_72]

Oh, I love that. I love watching miserable people getting their comeuppance. But at least they lived their youth and experiences in god-mode. Many of us did not even had a choice.

True that. Having had a good, careless youth is invaluable.

Besides, if you read "the erotic capital" theory, you will see that the people who were good looking in their youth RETAIN their confidence even when they are old and lose their good looks.

The same theory has it that even high class prostitutes have great self confidence when they leave the profession once they do not look good anymore. Apparently, having being well paid for years only for their looks (well, and prowess I would add) makes them confident and self assured forever.

 

[JohnsonDDG]

I've reunited with high school friends over the last year at a couple weddings. We're in our late 20's now, and people are already starting to look rough...dad bods + moderate levels of balding

These encounters give me all the motivation I need to continue heavily monitoring my aesthetics

Yeah, this is what I mean. Looks fade and you better how have something else about you or else after 40 you are nothing.

At least some of the guys on here who will be bald at 40 are smart as f*** and very knowledgeable on a whole host of issues.

I know who I'd rather be friends with.

 

[infinitepain]

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Yeah, this is what I mean. Looks fade and you better how have something else about you or else after 40 you are nothing.

At least some of the guys on here who will be bald at 40 are smart as f*** and very knowledgeable on a whole host of issues.

I know who I'd rather be friends with.

Looks matter always if you still have a libido and want to f*** good looking women. Good looking men with hair and good bodies at 40 do better than us sub8 balding mongs.

The only point in having a better job at that point is to f*** more hookers, that's all.

The pain of not being a good looking Chad during HS and early college before everyone is killed by boring adult obligations and aging is something that will never go away no matter what you do.