Bald spot at 19

[s.a.f]

Secondly, if you stay out of the game as far as women are concerned for the entirety of your 20's, you're out of the game for good. Experience counts for a lot with women, and a 35 year old that doesn't know what he's doing in bed is not going to last very long with a woman his age.
Last, if you pin all of your hopes for life on HM, you're going to be disappointed.

True even if a guy looked like Brad Pitt a lack of relationship experience would be really offputting for women. Women care more about that sort of thing than guys do.

 

[ClayShaw]

Secondly, if you stay out of the game as far as women are concerned for the entirety of your 20's, you're out of the game for good. Experience counts for a lot with women, and a 35 year old that doesn't know what he's doing in bed is not going to last very long with a woman his age.
Last, if you pin all of your hopes for life on HM, you're going to be disappointed.

True even if a guy looked like Brad Pitt a lack of relationship experience would be really offputting for women. Women care more about that sort of thing than guys do.

I think unless there are extenuating circumstances (for instance, you spent your 20's in Iraq), being single for that long is a red flag for women. A big red flag. Worse than being in a series of bad relationships. People are loners for a reason, and those reasons are not attractive to women.

 

[Route66]

Erm, I didn't say anything about staying out of any games. Obviously, you should make your present life as good as possible, and that includes relationships. However, you should also build for the future as well. The difference between having hair, and not having it, is sufficiently big, in terms of confidence/happiness, etc., not just in your twenties, but for many years after, that it's worth putting EVERY effort in to getting the best possible hair you can. One of the biggest mistakes many young guys on here make is thinking that hair won't matter to them after their twenties. Trust me, they won't think that when they're 30!

Obviously, men with more severe hair loss are more limited in their options, hair transplant-wise, but, if they're willing to put the effort in, and travel to a top hair transplant surgeon, they may be surprised what can be done. In one way, hair loss is a test of what kind of person you are; the kind who 'settles' for a less than ideal life, or the kind who's willing to go as many extra miles as necessary to have the life that they really want and deserve. If you're a 'settler', fine, but don't expect everyone to be.

Also, and I don't want to pick a fight here, but I'm not convinced you're the most credible advocate of acceptance, given the gloom and doom of some of your other posts. I sincerely hope that you can make the journey from this despair to true acceptance of your hair loss, and complete happiness without hair, but my honest opinion is that that's going to be very, very tough. Probably tougher than getting a good hair transplant would be.

That's my honest opinion, offered in a friendly spirit. If you disagree, fair enough.

 

[ClayShaw]

Erm, I didn't say anything about staying out of any games. Obviously, you should make your present life as good as possible, and that includes relationships. However, you should also build for the future as well. The difference between having hair, and not having it, is sufficiently big, in terms of confidence/happiness, etc., not just in your twenties, but for many years after, that it's worth putting EVERY effort in to getting the best possible hair you can. One of the biggest mistakes many young guys on here make is thinking that hair won't matter to them after their twenties. Trust me, they won't think that when they're 30!

I misunderstood you as far as staying out of the game goes... my bad.
I agree with the difference, and since I'm 27, I don't think that I wouldn't care after 30 at all. This may sound weird, but I've always had really bad skin, and I sort of thought 30 was the magic number, and when I hit that, my skin would clear up, my confidence would be ok, and life would be good. Didn't expect to go bald at all. The amount of premature hairloss in my family is extremely limited, I just got unlucky. Unfortunately, the one or two guys who did lose hair prematurely went NW7 quickly.

Obviously, men with more severe hair loss are more limited in their options, hair transplant-wise, but, if they're willing to put the effort in, and travel to a top hair transplant surgeon, they may be surprised what can be done. In one way, hair loss is a test of what kind of person you are; the kind who 'settles' for a less than ideal life, or the kind who's willing to go as many extra miles as necessary to have the life that they really want and deserve. If you're a 'settler', fine, but don't expect everyone to be.

I'm definitely a "settler"...
If you can post good NW7 before and afters, that would be cool.

Also, and I don't want to pick a fight here, but I'm not convinced you're the most credible advocate of acceptance, given the gloom and doom of some of your other posts. I sincerely hope that you can make the journey from this despair to true acceptance of your hair loss, and complete happiness without hair, but my honest opinion is that that's going to be very, very tough. Probably tougher than getting a good hair transplant would be.

I agree completely with everything said there, and you are in no way picking a fight. Picking a fight is name calling and acting generally immature, and its clear that you're not immature. No offense taken at all. You are far from the first person to tell me I come off as negative, so its not an issue whatsoever.
I think the problem is that I'm not clear enough in what I mean. I labeled PRP a scam in another forum, and thats not what I meant. When I talk about acceptance, I'm talking to other people, not myself. I know guys who have accepted it well, and are doing just fine. Thats not me, unfortunately. This may sound like an excuse, and it probably is, but my family has a long history of depression. Two out of the six people in my dad's family killed themselves. I think that if you start off as a confident person, its much easier to take it in stride than it is if you start off very insecure.
Its going to be tough, and I'll probably never get to true acceptance. What I want to be clear about is that I'm speaking for myself, and that other peoples experiences will be different and hopefully better. For instance, the toughest thing about discovering that I was going bald was the realization that this meant that I was done with women for good. I need to restate that I am speaking only for myself, and that I am in no way saying that no bald men should ever get laid. Far from it. I've never been successful with women, and this is sort of the last straw for me. Any remaining confidence I had is gone.
If I thought there was a possibility of saving thousands of dollars and getting a good hair transplant, and then not having to take propecia for the rest of my life, I'd do it. Unfortunately, I won't be done losing hair until I'm in my 60's, so if I were to get a transplant I'd be committed to propecia, which I am unwilling to take. It sucks, but it is what it is.
I also am unable to shave my head due to various skin conditions, so, I'm sort of stuck being a young balding guy, and everyone knows that shaved heads are cool, balding is not. Another thing is that if I could just shave my head and look decent, I wouldn't worry about it at all. Like I said, my skin reacts very badly to razors. I can't really even shave my face, so shaving my head every few days is not a possibility. I also have pretty bad acne (for my age) and a nasty case of rosacea that results in cystic acne that lasts for months.
I have to work on accepting the fact that I'll never be ok looking. I've never been great looking, but I would say (based on the few women who have shown interest) that when I shave and get lucky and get a day or two with clear skin, and when I had my full head of super thick hair, I was slightly above average. Not handsome, but decent enough to have some flings with very attractive women.
In the end, I am negative. I'm not someone who is able to get his hopes up and be disappointed. I will try to be more specific in mentioning that in the future on these forums. I don't want to give the impression that I think all hope is lost for all balding men. I've never felt that way, and I don't now, because I've seen ample evidence to the contrary. I see all hope as lost for me, and I only speak for myself. I need to be more clear about that.

That's my honest opinion, offered in a friendly spirit. If you disagree, fair enough.

The only thing I disagreed with was something that you hadn't even said. Your post was very polite, and in no way offensive. Its good to be able to disagree with people civilly, and thats one of the things I like about these forums.

 

[Hope4hairRedux]

In one way, hair loss is a test of what kind of person you are; the kind who 'settles' for a less than ideal life, or the kind who's willing to go as many extra miles as necessary to have the life that they really want and deserve. If you're a 'settler', fine, but don't expect everyone to be.

Hair loss is a test, yes, but I think the angle from which you are looking at it is a little off. You seem to be insinuating that the test is about whether we go the 'extra mile' to to have the life we 'deserve' or whether we settle of a 'less than ideal' life.

I really think that this is far from helpful. The real test, for a balding man, is too accept his male pattern baldness, yet still be strong and confident in life.

A man's test isn't about striving for an exterior image all his life. When your my age(20), perhaps a man does put a lot more into his looks, but when your older, the sign of a real man is someone who doesn't value the exterior so much, who isn't anxious about how he looks and isn't vain. Its about inner strength and conviction.

I work by the Nietzsche principle; 'That which does not kill us makes us stronger'. The real test is for us to rise above our trivial anxieties and become stronger than when we were only confident on our outside appearances.

However I will say that, yes, looks are important - if we want to have a good looking partner - than to have a decent chance we generally need to at least be fairly good looking - bald or not - so its up to us to work on other aspects of ourselves to do keep ourselves healthy to keep ourselves as good looking as possible; yet to stay reasonable and balanced.

 

[Route66]

Clay Shaw - You've obviously been dealt a particularly sh*t hand, and, of course, it sucks. It sounds as though your skin problems are bigger than your hair loss problems, to be honest, or, at least, more fundamental. If you could improve your skin situation, then you'd have more hair options. I don't really know anything about skin problems, but, if I was in your shoes, I'd seek out the best possible dermatologist. There must be SOMETHING that can be done to improve your situation, surely! Even if you've already seen dermatologists, see another one. Travel, if necessary. Pay as much as you can afford. Come on man; you can't let your f*****g skin ruin your life!

 

[Route66]

H4HR

I'm afraid you're falling into the trap of thinking that men, but not women, are supposed to endure a certain amount of misery; that this makes us stronger, and more masculine. This is complete and utter bollocks. I'm not bothered about being strong, or masculine - at least, not if someone else gets to define what strength and masculinity mean. What I am bothered about is being happy. Even if enduring baldness makes us more manly (which it doesn't), I'd rather be less manly (though I wouldn't be less manly, anyway), and have awesome hair, simply because it would make me happier.

And my experience is that women are, generally, emotionally stronger than men, anyway (or, at least, just as strong). So why should enduring unhappiness be the exclusive burden of males, exactly?

And, with all due respect, a 20 year-old, even a very intelligent one, is in no position to know whether hair loss is easier to tolerate in your forties. In fact, it probably is, one the whole, but there's a hell of a lot more variables in determining how tolerable hair loss is than age. This is the SINGLE biggest mistake hair loss sufferers of your age make: you simply don't realize what 'accepting' hair loss really means. Well, you realize what it means, but you can't take on board the magnitude of it. It means spending ALL the best years of your life as a bald(ing) man. I'm giving you my honest opinion, as someone who's seen a lot more than you, that being bald(ing) for all that time is something that you should do everything possible to avoid! I don't care if this doesn't make you feel good; it's the truth. I'm being cruel to be kind.

If you'd rather listen to a philosopher, who, incidentally, died with a fantastic head of hair, however, fair enough.

 

[ClayShaw]

H4HR

I'm afraid you're falling into the trap of thinking that men, but not women, are supposed to endure a certain amount of misery; that this makes us stronger, and more masculine. This is complete and utter bollocks. I'm not bothered about being strong, or masculine - at least, not if someone else gets to define what strength and masculinity mean. What I am bothered about is being happy. Even if enduring baldness makes us more manly (which it doesn't), I'd rather be less manly (though I wouldn't be less manly, anyway), and have awesome hair, simply because it would make me happier.

And my experience is that women are, generally, emotionally stronger than men, anyway (or, at least, just as strong). So why should enduring unhappiness be the exclusive burden of males, exactly?

And, with all due respect, a 20 year-old, even a very intelligent one, is in no position to know whether hair loss is easier to tolerate in your forties. In fact, it probably is, one the whole, but there's a hell of a lot more variables in determining how tolerable hair loss is than age. This is the SINGLE biggest mistake hair loss sufferers of your age make: you simply don't realize what 'accepting' hair loss really means. Well, you realize what it means, but you can't take on board the magnitude of it. It means spending ALL the best years of your life as a bald(ing) man. I'm giving you my honest opinion, as someone who's seen a lot more than you, that being bald(ing) for all that time is something that you should do everything possible to avoid! I don't care if this doesn't make you feel good; it's the truth. I'm being cruel to be kind.

If you'd rather listen to a philosopher, who, incidentally, died with a fantastic head of hair, however, fair enough.

Wasn't it nietzsche that got laid once and got syphillis?

 

[Hope4hairRedux]

H4HR

I'm afraid you're falling into the trap of thinking that men, but not women, are supposed to endure a certain amount of misery; that this makes us stronger, and more masculine. This is complete and utter bollocks. I'm not bothered about being strong, or masculine - at least, not if someone else gets to define what strength and masculinity mean. What I am bothered about is being happy. Even if enduring baldness makes us more manly (which it doesn't), I'd rather be less manly (though I wouldn't be less manly, anyway), and have awesome hair, simply because it would make me happier.

And my experience is that women are, generally, emotionally stronger than men, anyway (or, at least, just as strong). So why should enduring unhappiness be the exclusive burden of males, exactly?

And, with all due respect, a 20 year-old, even a very intelligent one, is in no position to know whether hair loss is easier to tolerate in your forties. In fact, it probably is, one the whole, but there's a hell of a lot more variables in determining how tolerable hair loss is than age. This is the SINGLE biggest mistake hair loss sufferers of your age make: you simply don't realize what 'accepting' hair loss really means. Well, you realize what it means, but you can't take on board the magnitude of it. It means spending ALL the best years of your life as a bald(ing) man. I'm giving you my honest opinion, as someone who's seen a lot more than you, that being bald(ing) for all that time is something that you should do everything possible to avoid! I don't care if this doesn't make you feel good; it's the truth. I'm being cruel to be kind.

If you'd rather listen to a philosopher, who, incidentally, died with a fantastic head of hair, however, fair enough.

I wasn't necessarily insinuating that only men have to go through suffering, or that the goal is to be all masculine, but I mean that all of us, go through suffering, girl or boy, woman or man, rich or poor, ugly and beautiful. Every one of us goes through life with our own relative suffering. You seem to be stuck on the external;

'I'd rather be...and have awesome hair, simply because it would make me happier.'

This clearly illustrates your own dilemma. You think that you would be happier with hair, fair enough. But you and I know that at this point in time that's pretty much an impossibility. You can shove all the chemical crap in your hair that you want - even get an hair transplant, but come on none of these are really going to help. Because there are no treatments right now that can truly make a difference, the only thing we can do is accept. Being truly happy means to let go, and to accept life as it comes. Being self centered and vain will never make you happy.

Its only as bad as you want to make it in your mind. Really life is more than being vain and concentrating on your exterior. You may be older than me, but I don't think chronological age necessarily means that you know the score. There seem to be many other site members here who are about your age and many seem to be getting on fine, bald or not. a great zen monk called Kodo Sawaki said 'An easy life is not authentic.' The challenges and problems of life are what makes life life - our ability to handle these and accept and become stronger as a result are what makes us.

You talk about what acceptance really means - but I don't think you really know what it means - if you did then you would probably not be writing from such a cynical and negative place. Acceptance means just being able to look at yourself and say 'I love myself', whether we have terminal cancer, male pattern baldness, or whether we are born with out two limbs. You seem like you have never really got over it. You have to be stronger than what you think you look like, of how you beautiful you think you are, you have to become strong inside.

Comparing yourself with others will never be a condition for happiness. We can be happy with who we are, in the here and now. Just be happy to be alive on this interesting mystical world - obsessing about what you can never get back (until HM becomes a reality) is worthless for now. One day we will be on our death bed and will realize how silly it was that we held ourselves back from enjoying life because of our external appearances, our belief that because we were not nw1s we were somehow imprisoned and disabled - the only real prison and disability that us bald(ing) men live with are our own minds. Its society that feeds us all this sh*t about having to look perfect, and we become conditioned to strive for external perfection. We are all beautiful in our own way. f*** society, and f*** em all.

 

[Route66]

I actually have a lot of respect for you, and your opinions. As I've said, you're very intelligent.

There are flaws in your argument, though.

- A good hair transplant, performed by a top class surgeon, WILL improve your appearance (though there are fewer options if your hair loss is more extensive, obviously). I'm sorry, but this isn't even debatable.

- I agree that excessive preoccupation with appearance is unhealthy. However, it's a question of degree. If someone wanted expensive, and dangerous, surgery to 'correct' a very minor physical flaw (not hair loss), then, of course, I'd argue against it. However, a hair transplant is relatively inexpensive, and poses negligible danger. In addition, the difference that having a great head of hair can make to a person's appearance, and confidence, is so large that it makes addressing this particular problem aggressively a no-brainer.

- Also, I believe your arguments are too mechanical. You sound like Mr. Spock - lol. For example:

[quote="Hope4hairRedux] One day we will be on our death bed and will realize how silly it was that we held ourselves back from enjoying life because of our external appearances, our belief that because we were not nw1s we were somehow imprisoned and disabled - the only real prison and disability that us bald(ing) men live with are our own minds.[/quote]

You see, that sounds great, but you can apply that kind of cold logic to all sorts of things; such as:

quote="Hope4hairRedux] One day we will be on our death bed and will realize how silly it was that we held ourselves back from enjoying life because of our external appearances, our belief that because we wore old rags we were somehow imprisoned and disabled - the only real prison and disability that us scruffy men live with are our own minds.[/quote]

What, essentially, is the difference between getting a hair transplant, and buying new clothes, though, except that one is much more hassle/expensive? In principal, it's the same; you're investing in cosmetic enhancement. It doesn't change what's inside, though, does it? So we might as well all walk around in rags, right?

Also, I could quite easily quote all sorts of dead people to support pretty much any argument, however extreme!

Nothing tastes better than simple happiness, however, and the recipe for a happy life isn't a dish of cold logic, seasoned with Chinese proverbs; common sense yes, but common sense that's also guided by how we feel. If we know, deep down, that something is troubling us, and it's not irrational to feel that way (and being pissed off with hair loss is most certainly not irrational), then it's not unreasonable to put that right, even if you could make all sorts of, Vulcan-like, logical arguments against doing so.

I do believe my age does give me SOME additional insight (I haven't been in solitary confinement since I was 20), and what I'm, basically, saying is do what makes you happy. If you can't accept hair loss, then don't, pure and simple (unless the world's best hair transplant surgeon has personally told you your hair is a lost cause). The bottom line is: WHATEVER you do, don't not get a hair transplant because you think getting one is an act of weakness, unmanliness, narcissism, etc. (it's not; even if it is a bit vain, who gives a f***?), or because you've been told that hair loss isn't serious enough to go to such lengths (it is to you; and it's your life). Also, if hair loss is making you very unhappy at 20, don't assume that you won't care about it at 30, or even 40. Maybe you won't, as much, anyway; but it's foolish to assume that. No-one can know how they'll feel about ANYTHING in 20 years time! Besides, if you are a suitable candidate for a hair transplant (and most men here are, when they reach a certain age), what the f*** have you got to lose, really? Sod all, in comparison to what you have to gain!

 

[Hope4hairRedux]

I see what your saying.. Of course we want to be happy and our appearance plays a big part in that. No one wants to wake up and be ugly.

But I dont think hair transplants are the answer. I mean come on, lets get seroius. hair transplants just looks messy; like a half done job. Who really wants to add a few hairs on their head that look like pubes, along with scar-lines ?

If hair transplant was that good and worthwhile every man with male pattern baldness would be getting them. But they're not. I reckon you (route66) might even be a some hair transplant surgeon coming on here and trying to promote your trade. Why else would someone your age seroiusly advocate hair transplant, anyone with a bit of common sense knows that hair transplants are just a joke.

I think if a woman was told to pick between two guys who she couldnt see, one who is bald, but feels good about just being him, and looks and feels good bald, or one who as had 3-4 hair transplants over the last 5 years, who wont accept what has to be accepted, someone who is holding on pathetically to a few hairs? The woman would go for a bald guy of course.

I will say that I have troubles with my male pattern baldness - I'm only human, and its natural to have insecurities, but I dont take them so seroiusly that I would consider doing anything as ridiculous as hair transplant. My point is that with all options considered going with the flow is the only way right now (unless HM becomes a reality anytime soon!).

Yes. I do feel like without it I would be more attractive and confident and so on.. I dread to think of being some 40-something white pasty guy with a horseshoe and no sexual attraction. I am actually pretty vain to be honest. I want to look good, and theres nothing wrong in pursuing that. But right now, with all options considered im just going to go with what feels right - with what I feel will make me most happy. For now that means just going along with it. We consider male pattern baldness to be much worse that others actually do, or care for that matter.

If you go up to a girl you have never met, with your male pattern baldness, bald or balding, and you start chatting to her, then there you go, your in with a chance.

f*** being a victim, f*** getting an hair transplant! I mean after getting an hair transplant could you really take yourself seriously?! To actually think that you spent thousands to get a few hairs implanted in your head, even though it looks obvoius and ridiculous. Haha. I'm going to enjoy my life bald or not thankyou very much. Im going to enjoy it and do all the things I want to do, and I'm going to go for all the woman I want, whether I fail or succeed, I would rather be happy in my own skin, then undergo nasty artificial treatments like hair transplant that are only temp jobs anyway.

''What a shame to have been born a human being and to spend your whole life worrying. You should reach the point where you can be happy to have been born a human.'' - Kodo Sawaki

And just for the record - I dont condone finding a supposed 'cure' for baldness, and HM looks like the most promising sign yet. But hair transplants, come on, its like polishing a sh*t. I could easily wait 10 years for HM to come - by that time I would be 30. I could even wait 20. Even in 30 years, when I am 50, I would still opt for HM if it didnt actually come for that long, but for now, with all options considered I'm going to enjoy being me. And perhaps that means that sooner or later I'm gonna be a sexy bald mofo!

 

[s.a.f]

If hair transplant was that good and worthwhile every man with male pattern baldness would be getting them. But they're not. I reckon you (route66) might even be a some hair transplant surgeon coming on here and trying to promote your trade. Why else would someone your age seroiusly advocate hair transplant, anyone with a bit of common sense knows that hair transplants are just a joke.

I think if a woman was told to pick between two guys who she couldnt see, one who is bald, but feels good about just being him, and looks and feels good bald, or one who as had 3-4 hair transplants over the last 5 years, who wont accept what has to be accepted, someone who is holding on pathetically to a few hairs? The woman would go for a bald guy of course.
f*ck being a victim, f*ck getting an hair transplant! I mean after getting an hair transplant could you really take yourself seriously?! To actually think that you spent thousands to get a few hairs implanted in your head, even though it looks obvoius and ridiculous.
And just for the record - I dont condone finding a supposed 'cure' for baldness, and HM looks like the most promising sign yet. But hair transplants, come on, its like polishing a sh*t.
I would still opt for HM if it didnt actually come for that long,

You obviously have'nt seen the difference, Go to the Hassan and Wong website and you'll see guys who've had their looks completly transformed even NW6's. Some of them look about 15 yrs younger.
And its easy to spot a hair transplant when you know its one. But Joe public just sees hair or no hair.
And as for HM, HM is the same as a hair transplant except you would have unlimited donor supply, but the appearance would still be the same because the surgeon has the same limitations of artistic follicle placement.
The reason most guys dont get a hair transplant is the same reason only about 15% of guys with M.P.B try any treatments - most just accept it and most either dont have the time and money to bother with it or simply dont even know whats available.

 

[Hope4hairRedux]

To be honest if people wanna f*** around with hair transplants thats their problem.

As for saying HM and hair transplant is practically the same is total bullshit serously.

HM is far less work; less time consuming, less surgery required - its a injections into the scalp.. not pricking hairs one by one into the scalp..

 

[Route66]

You're talking sh*t now mate. Before trying to talk authoritatively about hair transplant's, please find out something about them first.

We all want to enjoy life, but the reason why we're all on this forum (except kerzyguy) is because hair loss is spoiling our enjoyment of life somewhat. Deciding to ignore your hair loss, and carry on as if you had a full head of hair, is much easier said than done. In fact, I doubt anyone can really, unless they didn't care that much about their hair loss in the first place!

I'm sorry if this sounds patronizing, but your last couple of posts are very immature. I don't claim to know everything - I don't - but sometimes it's wise to consider whether somebody much older, who's offering you his candid advice, might just have a point (particularly, in your case, if that older person has done some research on hair transplant's, which you, obviously, haven't). I certainly wouldn't disregard the advice of someone my parent's age. In fact, I don't.

And, if you insist on trading quotes, how about this one, from a man who achieved far more than Kodo Sawaki and all the other so-called 'wise men' you might care to mention put together:

Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or petty

Sir Winston Churchill

 

[Hope4hairRedux]

Route66 I see what your saying. Perhaps hair transplants are a viable option for some people, but what I'm saying is that I seroiusly feel happier when I am just at peace with myself, and accepting what I am. I just dont feel that true happiness lies in vanity and good looks. So although I dont want to lose my hair, I just feel that getting an hair transplant is a step to far - I would rather just go with the natural process of my body. Isn't that the greatest path through life? To be able to go on a journey and just to be able to accept and observe whats happening, instead of becoming bogged down with self centered emotions?

I dont see trying to treat hairloss as that much different from the skin care market and the nip tuck options. People just want to look young and beautiful all the time. I just think its kind of a sad reflection of our modern western world, that theres so much pressure to meet the standard of beauty. We live in such an image-conscoius society and thats reflected in the way that no one wants to accept themselves as they are - they wont accept the natural aging process. We are as bueatiful as we are, and we suffer when we compare ourselves to others the whole time. We need to just get to that point where minor things like male pattern baldness dont hinder us.

Yes, I agree that if it wasn't such a big deal for us then we wouldnt be on this site. But think about how many guys go bald, really its probably a tiny percentage that stick around on these sites - most just get on with it. I myself use this site to just vent inner feelings and anxieties that I wouldnt neccasarely want to burden on others -especiallly given the self centered nature of them. So my point is that I use this site in a productive way, its just a place for me to come when I feel down about it, and I feel that it helps me a lot to move on with life.

If you feel like hair transplants are worthwhile then fine, theres nothing wrong with pursuing a desire to keep our hair. But I just really dont feel that it bugs me enough to get one. My main issue with hair transplants is that even if you find a good doctor, after a few years your hairs only going to keep on falling out, its tempory stuff, its messy and it leaves scars. Thats just my take on it. I'd rather work on my mind, and become a stronger and more confident person then bow down and have an hair transplant. Thats the point I keep coming back to - real confidence comes from within, not from the external. Thats why that when we start going bald we then start to lose confidence, as we based our confidence on how we looked, this is simple. So we want to aim to become stronger individuals, more truly confident. I think that is a better path then having mulitiple hair transplants and spending loads of money on quack pills and chemical lotions to rub in ones hair, its really quite funny when you look back at it.

''Even funnier than watching the monkeys at the zoo is observing these humans on the loose. '' - Kodo Sawaki

 

[Route66]

Well that's a bit more sensible, but you're still trapped in the silly notion that having a hair transplant is an act of weakness, etc. It really isn't. It's simply investing your hard earned money in looking better, and being happier. There's really no need to analyze it any deeper than that. Do you think women are weaker because they wear make-up, etc.? Of course not! And please don't give me the outdated argument that only women should invest significant time in their appearance! There are times when a man has to show that he's strong, but walking around with sh*t hear isn't one of them. sh*t hair doesn't make a man more masculine; only more miserable!

You're too young to have a hair transplant now, anyway, but if you're still unhappy about your hair when you reach your mid-twenties (and my guess is you will be), then, assuming your hair loss has stabilized, I say go for it. Do your research, and get a hair transplant. It really would be very sad if you spent the second half of your twenties, and the whole of your thirties and forties, with sh*t hair just because you were ignorant about how good a hair transplant can be (and they'll be even better then), and because you have silly, misplaced, notions about strength and masculinity.

Anyway, that's all your getting from me on this thread. I can't add much more to what I've said, except to wish you well.

 

[heyitsthatguy]

Setting aside this un-educated squabble about hair transplant and hm and whatnot (im assuming theres no hair transplant surgeons or doctors roaming this thread).
It sucks losing hair this young doesn't it dude. You look at your friends hair and your just like why me? And for me my mums side is perfect and dads losing his hair but sh*t hes 55 and an NW3 so hes about average. So where this comes from who knows. Anyways man sounds like its pretty bad but people have been known to exaggerate...you got any pics up? Don't know if your on meds but your young so who knows you could respond well
If you do end up going bald though its not the end of the world as long as you have a positive attitude you'll still pull chicks I saw a few bald guys hooking up at a uni bar last week so its not impossible. Good luck!

 

[stevo99]

caster oil

have you guys tried caster oil?

 

[shookwun]

grave digging 6 year old threads.