Balding and a girlfriend

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toocoolforhair said:
It depends on a number of factors. Are you a good looking guy despite your baldness? Do you carry yourself well? Have you got a good job?

I've had a grade 1 buzzcut for a year and a half now (I'm norwood 3) and I can still attract nice girls. The only difference is that when I had hair they threw themselves at me. Now I've got the buzzcut it is a bit more hard work. When I actually get a decent job (I've recently finished university) I think my prospects will be even better.

that's amusing!!!
 

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toocoolforhair said:
Now I've got the buzzcut it is a bit more hard work. When I actually get a decent job (I've recently finished university) I think my prospects will be even better.

When you get a Porche your prospects will be even more better. :punk: :) :agree:
 

rcom440

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A lot of good looking women are stimulated by intellect and charisma not look or $.
I bet if there were 2 guys going for a good looking girl, one guy charismatic and smart, other guy good looking but dull and boring she would go for a charismatic guy. It's a fact. There were actually some studies done about that. I'm not sure if I still have that file on my HD.
 

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It depends on many many things, you wish it was that easy, if it was then you wouldn't see so many 20+ or even 30+ virgin geeks... if we are talking about relatively young girls (around 20-27 and younger ofc) then i bet my jacobs they wont give a f*** about sh*t like personality and charisma, 30+ / ugly chicks, will go with almost anything, ofc there are exceptions here and there....
 

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rcom440 said:
A lot of good looking women are stimulated by intellect and charisma not look or $.
I bet if there were 2 guys going for a good looking girl, one guy charismatic and smart, other guy good looking but dull and boring she would go for a charismatic guy. It's a fact. There were actually some studies done about that. I'm not sure if I still have that file on my HD.
on the contrary, they hate intelligence, hate it, hate it, hate it

someone uk's theorem: is, the chances of someone getting a girl is inversely proportional to the inverse square of the guy's (iq - 90) ^ Norwood
and at 140 and a nw2.5 i am doomed
 

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somone uk said:
rcom440 said:
A lot of good looking women are stimulated by intellect and charisma not look or $.
I bet if there were 2 guys going for a good looking girl, one guy charismatic and smart, other guy good looking but dull and boring she would go for a charismatic guy. It's a fact. There were actually some studies done about that. I'm not sure if I still have that file on my HD.
on the contrary, they hate intelligence, hate it, hate it, hate it

someone uk's theorem: is, the chances of someone getting a girl is inversely proportional to the inverse square of the guy's (iq - 90) ^ Norwood
and at 140 and a nw2.5 i am doomed

Not saying I disagree with you, just very curious about your reasoning behind it.

In regards to the topic, I think baldness is most definitely a turn off to girls. The older you get the more acceptable it is to them, I speculate.

At my stage, if it got much worse people would look at me and say "going bald" or "balding guy" to themselves. For you 30 plus guys it shouldn't be as much of a deterrent to females as it is to the young guys going bald. Think about it this way, a girl who is 19-21 would be embarrassed to be with a bald guy.
 

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Dudemon, you are way too negative about this. Is baldness a negative thing in most women's view? Probably, but women are really not THAT shallow. Sure they probably dislike the baldness, but I believe a good woman will look beyond a man's physical flaw that he can't control. Maybe she likes his mind, his sense of humor, his money, who knows? Maybe I've been watching too many disney movies, but I truly believe that. And how can you say that women in their 40s and beyond don't find balding more acceptable. I mean, a 40 year old woman is no spring chicken herself, she's probably got some crows feet and her *** and breasts are probably in the early stages of sagging. We all get old, ugly and decrepit eventually.
 

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If I was a girl I'd date I NW3-4 but anything on that is just too much baldness. White people look especially hideous bald. Pale white heads with bug eyes that stick out becuase there is no hair to frame the face. Bald guys who are NW5+ have weird bug eyes.

Can't blame a girl for staying away from a bald guy.
 

Mens Rea

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wow dudemon you've been scarred bad

ive no doubt the dating world is set up to make it harder for balding/bald guys but for you to make it sounds like its game over is simply a sign of your own shortcomings.

sorry to be so brutally honest but its the fact of the matter

first of all i actually know girls who literally prefer a shaved head. others arent bothered. some are bothered but why is that different than us being bothered by say a girl with no boobs or whatever?

its funny actually. most of the older bald guys i know are all either in healthy relationships or are good with women. most of the unsuccesful bathelors i know ironically have no hair loss issues.

so - yes its no doubt harder but far from game over.
 

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qball01 said:
if women really did avoid it like the plague, it would be passed down through genes less and less....

the reason the gene still gets passed down is because bald men CAN still find mates.... fat, ugly, disgusting mates. so all the baldies CAN still pass on their genes, but only with gross fat chicks who have no chance with regular dudes...

then the baldy and fatty have gross, ugly kids and the cycle perpetuates...

.....damn evolution sucks!

p.s. obviously if you have a good body baldness doesn't matter nearly as much. but if you have a below average body, plus baldness... sorry your life sucks.
 

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Where did you get this information from?
 

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dudemon said:
question7 said:
In regards to the topic, I think baldness is most definitely a turn off to girls. The older you get the more acceptable it is to them, I speculate.

First of all, I am 40 years old.

I agree 100% with the first part, but disagree on the second.

I just don't get it. Where do guys come up with this reasoning that older women (particularly in their 30's and beyond) all the sudden say, "hmm, I don't think bald guys are a turn off anymore, and I suddenly find myself attracted to them more and more as I get older"?

That is BS!

It has been my experience women in their teens and 20's who are turned off by bald guys...are still turned off by bald guys when they hit 30, 35, and even 40+ (even 50 year old women dislike bald men). I used to listen to my grandmother and all of her granny friends talk major sh*t about how ugly bald men are. In fact, I "spyed" on them playing bridge one day, and over-heard them talking about how ugly they think bald men's heads are (including my grandfather's).

I have personlly known hot women in their 30's and 40's who still reject bald guys, just the same as when they were 20 years younger. And yes, it WAS because the guy was bald!

question7 said:
Think about it this way, a girl who is 19-21 would be embarrassed to be with a bald guy.

And a 30 or 40 year old chick wouldn't be?... especially a hot one? :dunno:

Again, I beg to differ with you, and I believe you are mistaken. There are some older women willing to tolerate a bald guy, provided that particular guy shaves his head, works out, and "has it all going on" minus a full head of hair.

Other older women are "stuck" in a marriage with children, and sacrifice their own personal desires to be with a more handsome dude with a full head of hair, for the stability of the family unit...all for their children's sake.

But then, what is the divorce rate among "unhappy" women in marriages nowdays? It's pretty damn high, and it's even higher among "empty nesters" who don't have the children to worry about anymore.

I wonder what the % of "empty nest" women who get a divorce from their bald hubby and run off with a younger guy with a full head of hair? I would be willing to bet it is quite a significant number. And I'd also bet that the "hair" was one of the main reasons for them doing so.

I also think that bald men are also one of the motivations for lesbianism. Women just figure "there aren't enough handsome guys anymore (who are available), so why not just have other girls instead?"


Where to begin, 1/3 of all men over 40 (or something like that) have some form of hair loss. It is not weird to see a middle aged man who is at some stage of hair loss. It is fairly rare to see a very young person, 23 and under, who is bald. Of course going bald sucks no matter what age, but when your loosing your hair while your young it can be a bit more painful, I think. First off, your not supposed to be going bald, you have your whole life ahead of you to shape and going bald is not really helping you out.

Also, I think woman over 35 are much more willing to date a bald guy then a young 19/20 year old woman.
 

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question7 said:
dudemon said:
question7 said:
In regards to the topic, I think baldness is most definitely a turn off to girls. The older you get the more acceptable it is to them, I speculate.

Also, I think woman over 35 are much more willing to date a bald guy then a young 19/20 year old woman.

lol, so what about all the ages in between?

Do you guys also not take into consideration the fact that much of this depends on WHO THE PARTICULAR BALD MAN IN QUESTION is? How he looks, acts, feels about himself...whether or not he knows how to sexually communicate with a woman, etc. None of these things seem to matter to some of you.

One bald guy could suck with women and another bald guy who looks even worse than the first one could be very successful with women for other reasons....the same rule applies for guys WITH hair as well.
 

question7

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Obviously females aren't going around picking mates solely on their hairline. No one ever said that so I don't see what your trying to say. Being bald or not is just another aspect in the large pool of traits females are inspecting when choosing a mate.

"lol, what about the ages in between"

It was the point I was trying to make, not the exact figures on how exactly what age and what level of hair loss corresponds to which female perception about hair loss. The over all point was "the older you are the more socially acceptable it is the be bald".
 

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question7 said:
Obviously females aren't going around picking mates solely on their hairline.
I know one girl that does exactly that, she told me more then once that hair is one of the most important things she looks in a mate
 

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dudemon said:
I've known lots of 30/40 something women that also do just that. I could never be more than a "friend" to them, because I am bald. But in a heartbeat, they would date a lazy bum with no job, no career, no life, no money, and no car as long as he was handsome had a full head of hair.

sorry but this is BS. body trumps hair. if you are ripped/cut then hair doesn't matter. dudemon, i'm guessing your body doesn't make up for the lack of hair? unfortunately, that's mostly genetics too. like i said, evolution sucks.
 

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Bla bla bla... average is dumb.

My life got better the day I stopped to give a damn about my hair. All the time I spent worrying about each and every one of them and how I could look better by styling it a different way...

Finally I lost most of it and I buzz it since I'm 24 (2 years too late, I'm 28 now).

I looked good. I look better because now I have that "I don't give a f***" glow. My friend look at me at point it out regularly and we laugh about it because I've always been more than a blondie (and I guess they'll go through hairloss (if it hit them) easily because I have haven't been such a pussy about it).

Some people are using baldness as a device to justify their insatisfaction...

Have fun.
 

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dudemon said:
Smooth said:
question7 said:
Obviously females aren't going around picking mates solely on their hairline.
I know one girl that does exactly that, she told me more then once that hair is one of the most important things she looks in a mate

I've known lots of 30/40 something women that also do just that. I could never be more than a "friend" to them, because I am bald. But in a heartbeat, they would date a lazy bum with no job, no career, no life, no money, and no car as long as he was handsome had a full head of hair.

You've got to be kidding. Do you know anything about the principles of natural selection? A woman is not going to look past a man being a bum with no money, job or car as long as he was good looking with a full head of hair. Maybe you would like to think that. Just because you know a few woman who say this (anecdotal evidence) doesn't mean anything. Hair loss sucks, but it doesn't completely remove you from the gene pool, especially when your over 40.

Maybe you would like to believe these things to make yourself feel better about bathing in your hair loss misery. Hair loss sucks, but to say a woman will look at hair before what the man is able to offer in terms of security is BS.
 

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question7 said:
Just because you know a few woman who say this (anecdotal evidence) doesn't mean anything. Hair loss sucks, but it doesn't completely remove you from the gene pool, especially when your over 40.
ofc it doesn't, its a question of concessions ....everyone can hook-up with somone, but what if your not attracted to that person? i believe that most people settle for less then what they really want or wish for themselves in terms of job/car/house WIFE!! and even friends, yet some of us refuse to settle when picking a partner *for life* (!!)... id rather have no one (and hook up here and there or pay for a hot prostitute ) then settle for someone that im not attracted to, but thats just one man's caprice. :whistle:
 

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I know this girl who's really into me and she's an 8/10 on looks and has a very nice body. I hung out with her a few times......and wanted to shoot myself.

It works the same with guys; hair or no hair.
 
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