Been on minoxidil and Finesteride for 5 years

[Dazman]

Hi everyone,

Been following all your discussions for the past month so thought it was time I reared my thinning head !

I started on minoxidil at 19 when I noticed I was thinning and added finesteride the following year, initially the results I saw when adding Finesteride were very good.

Over the years my treatments have helped me maintain a reasonable amount of hair although I see a slight deterioration each year and am now 24.

I have got to the stage now where the side effects have meant that I have had to drop Finesterdie so I am reviewing my options which lead me onto this site.

I have been in contact with Dr Lee who has suggested Xandrox15% in the evening with Xandrox 5% in the morning.

I really want to know from you guys whether any of you are on this treatment or have any experiences with these type of treatments.

By the way I know it is devastating when you realise your hair is falling out, especially when you are in your teens. For me it kind of did me a favour. Because I didnt have the confidence to go out partying like most 20 year olds I threw myself into my sport Triathlon and have ended up representing my Country, I am sure I wouldnt have had the determination to do this had I not had a problem with my hair as I felt I had something to prove.

I now realise it is not all doom and gloom and I have retained a decent, not perfect amount of hair and have a good out look for the future.

Keep you chin up guys !

Reponses would be appreciated.

 

[VoRteX]

I would go with Xandrox5% and spironolactone at first. This will give you growth stimulation and DHT suppression.

The 12% is very potent but you could try this as well. Dr. Lee recommends its use only on limited areas because of its potency.

Thanks for giving us a 5 year update! What kind of sides are prompting you to quit finasteride?

Congrats on being an athletic competitor. You must be in great shape!

Keep us posted.

 

[Redbone]

I hate to say this but minoxidil and Fina are the two best going.
Using Xandrox is taking a step down. From my experience, minoxidil in any form just slows and regrows, It does not stop hair from falling only DHT inhibitors do that. HairLossTalk.com just posted something about Xandrox saying 50% of the people like it and 50% think it is to harsh.

I use Dr. Lewenbergs stuff and although very expensive it works. Most people don't like it here because they think it is a rip off and at $50/60ml bottle it is. Also you must follow the direction exactly. I was on it for five months before I figured out how to use it correctly. I would also definately suggest a DHT inhibitor like Revivogen or spironolactone 2% liquid. I stay on Lewenburgs stuff because it is very convenient to use and once you are done re-growing all your hair or the hair that is going to come back you go on a maintenance phase which costs about $30/month.

 

[Lizzad]

Regular minoxidil 5% is fine, you don't need xandrox. Kirkland is as good as any 5% formula. Perhaps some spironolactone 2% in the mix aswell...

 

[Dazman]

>>>Thanks for giving us a 5 year update! What kind of sides are prompting you to quit finasteride?

The main side effect which caused me to stop I am told is quite rare, was the water retention and weight gain, if it wasnt for my sport it wouldnt bother me, I do think also that I have experienced some loss in my sex drive because since ive been off it ive been like a dog with 2 dicks !

The side effects for me only really crept in two years ago, they stayed constant and didnt really get any worse and since I have stopped they have completely gone within 1 month

 

[Dazman]

>>>I use Dr. Lewenbergs stuff and although very expensive it works. Most people don't like it here because they think it is a rip off and at $50/60ml bottle it is. Also you must follow the direction exactly. I was on it for five months before I figured out how to use it correctly. I would also definately suggest a DHT inhibitor like Revivogen or spironolactone 2% liquid. I stay on Lewenburgs stuff because it is very convenient to use and once you are done re-growing all your hair or the hair that is going to come back you go on a maintenance phase which costs about $30/month

What is Dr Lewenbergs stuff is that Minoxidil based ?

 

[VoRteX]

i dont see how lewenbergs sh*t is any good

how the f*** can it work when you are supposed to spray in on you HAIR and not your scalp?

 

[Dazman]

i dont see how lewenbergs sh*t is any good

how the f*** can it work when you are supposed to spray in on you HAIR and not your scalp?

This is the problem, its a bloody lottery there are so many treatments out there ive noticed since reading this forum that I never knew existed most of which probably dont work,

In my opinion Dr Lees products seem to be widely publicised and well thought of, I may be wrong though but thats the impression I am getting and a risk I have to take.

 

[Redbone]

It works because it seeps down into your scalp- I can tell you that it has worked for me. Others can say what they want about pricing and such but it is effective. It contains 2% minoxidil with Retin A.

The only problem I have is that that it is very expensive about $160 per month when trying to regrow. And Lewenberg does everything he can to make you use more so he can sell more to you.

Bottom line for me is it works and is one hell of allot more convenient than topical minoxidil or xandrox or creams etc... I grew back almost half my hair so far about 4mo and am going strong. All I can say is it works for me- you need to find what works for you, don't let anyone tell you different. He does offer amoney back guarantee.

I thought about taking lees stuff and it is well thought of and publicized. But I have things that are working for me now maybe his stuff will benefit you. The whole hairloss treatment thing right now is a crap shoot, I guess thats why they call it a battle-sometimes your up sometimes your "going down."

 

[Dazman]

It works because it seeps down into your scalp- I can tell you that it has worked for me. Others can say what they want about pricing and such but it is effective. It contains 2% minoxidil with Retin A.

The only problem I have is that that it is very expensive about $160 per month when trying to regrow. And Lewenberg does everything he can to make you use more so he can sell more to you.

Bottom line for me is it works and is one hell of allot more convenient than topical minoxidil or xandrox or creams etc... I grew back almost half my hair so far about 4mo and am going strong. All I can say is it works for me- you need to find what works for you, don't let anyone tell you different. He does offer amoney back guarantee.

I thought about taking lees stuff and it is well thought of and publicized. But I have things that are working for me now maybe his stuff will benefit you. The whole hairloss treatment thing right now is a crap shoot, I guess thats why they call it a battle-sometimes your up sometimes your "going down."

Thats good, I hope it continues to work for you, by the way I noticed on your profile that some of your treatments have been started this year, how long have you had a hair loss problem ?, as I have found that a lot of treatments give you inital results but then deteriorate.

 

[richlocks]

Dazman,

Where did you see most of the water retention and weight gain? Was it in the face and gut? How long after quitting the drug did it take to get back to normal?

 

[Dazman]

Dazman,

Where did you see most of the water retention and weight gain? Was it in the face and gut? How long after quitting the drug did it take to get back to normal?

Didnt notice any in the face it was mainly the gut and partly over my chest, I was feeling bloated a lot of the time, after about 2-4 weeks after I came off it it went away. I have my body fat measured regularly and it was evident there was a change after I came off it.

 

[Guest]

The 15% Xandrox he is talking about is new and nothing like the 12% cream. It is a liquid and is supposed to absorb better, and the people using it says it is extremely mild with no inflamation. They are also saying they have regrown additional hair, and Dr. Lee says his test group that was formerly using the 12% grew additional hair when switching to the new 15% formulation.

For whatever it's worth.

 

[Redbone]

I have been on my products for about 7 months and have not noticed any adverse effects. My hair still seems to be improving in some areas and worse in others. I will be getting Fina persrcip from my derm in about a month.

15% Xandrox is mucho expensive at nearly $100

 

[Guest]

It's $88. 1 ml/day is $22/month. More realistically a single application might be 1.5 mls though.

 

[Redbone]

Sounds promising but you still have to come up with $88. I have spent so much on hair sh*t I am in the shitter. I can't afford to buy anymore stuff.

 

[richlocks]

It works because it seeps down into your scalp- I can tell you that it has worked for me. Others can say what they want about pricing and such but it is effective. It contains 2% minoxidil with Retin A.

The only problem I have is that that it is very expensive about $160 per month when trying to regrow. And Lewenberg does everything he can to make you use more so he can sell more to you.

Dude Lewenberg is a crook.. He charges 160 a month for 2% minoxidil and retin A mixed? Go and get your own topical minoxidil/retinA concotion compounded at a pharmacy for 25 bucks a month or so.. come on man.

 

[Redbone]

Myabe he is and maybe he isnt, he offers a money back guarantee on his products and they say they work in 90% of his patients.

Who the f*** knows, I know one thing though it is as easy to use as fina, no crap to rub into your scalp, smelly odors and the such. If you havent tried it rich you have no reason to comment on it. I have and have had good growth. It is not just a matter of mixing the two he uses other things as well. Either way it is not worth $50 for 60ml unless it makes your hair like it did when you were f*****g 12.

And another thing I am tired of people talking sh*t about this stuff if they don't have anything to back it up with. I have posted several times on the treatments page and no one has responded. So unless you have something constructive to say shut up. There is no negative feedback on the whole net about this stuff- if you think you know so much Rich bring me the evidance. Besides what do you use Nioxin?

 

[Guest]

Using Xandrox is taking a step down. From my experience, minoxidil in any form just slows and regrows, It does not stop hair from falling only DHT inhibitors do that.

Not true. Look at the ingrediants in Xandrox, it has DHT blockers. It has azelaic and retin acid and blocks almost if not all the dht where applied. But your right, you probley should continue 2 use finasteride with it.

 

[Guest]

Also where do you get Xandrox 15%? Where can I also get info and read about it?

Thats wierd cause I talked 2 Dr Lee and he said that 12% is fine and didnt even mention the 15%.