Before Hair Loss Did You Feel Empathy/sympathy For Bald People?

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Are we any better than the people with full heads of hair we insult for not liking us?

Sorry. It's getting late and I'm feeling a little ragged right now so these questions popped into my head. I'm trying to find some kind of meaning behind people being popular when they have their hair and ostracized when they're missing hair.





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Its one of those things that I never really considered because I didn't really need to.

I remember thinking Stone Cold Steve Austin was the coolest man on the planet so I guess I had a positive role model. But as for the balding men who still kept their hair showing - I just saw them as old men and nothing more.

Its something you never really consider unless it happens to you.
 

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Nope I made fun of my father for being bald. And he told me he did the same to his father LuL
I always think the people who bald people and end becoming bald are super tragic.

Its a bit like the teen girls who are super vain and mock fat people and then they get older and they too become fat.

Its ironic and its tragic and it gives this senseless world a feeling that there is some cosmic karma at play.
 

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I always think the people who bald people and end becoming bald are super tragic.

Its a bit like the teen girls who are super vain and mock fat people and then they get older and they too become fat.

Its ironic and its tragic and it gives this senseless world a feeling that there is some cosmic karma at play.

At the same time though, who better to become fat or bald? Those who didn't mock anyone? Even more unfair.
 

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I will be a bit philosophical here.
Sorry.

A French philosopher (I would say Montaigne, because he pretty much said everything) wrote that after 21 you are responsible for your own face.

Of course this is an exaggeration but holds a truth: we tend to think people look like what they deserve.

When I see a very short person, I do not mock him/her but I have this impression that it was his/her own body that decided she should not grow, not anyone else (unless of course they are ill).

It's a bit like that Jewish song, "Donna Donna Donna", in which the butcher says to a sad cow on the way to the market: "Who told you a cow to be?"

My father being NW7 at 35 made me so preoccupied that I was not in the position to mock bald people.

However, I am sure that, if I had not been thinning out myself, I would have stupidly thought that bald people had it coming somehow and I would have shown off my mane. That is how idiotic people (me first) can be.
 
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I will be a bit philosophical here.
Sorry.

A French philosopher (I would say Montaigne, because he pretty much said everything) wrote that after 21 you are responsible for your own face.

Of course this is an exaggeration but holds a truth: we tend to think people look like what they deserve.

When I see a very short person, I do not mock him/her but I have this impression that it was his/her own body that decided she should not grow, not anyone else (unless of course they are ill).

It's a bit like that Jewish song, "Donna Donna Donna", in which the butcher says to a sad cow on the way to the market: "Who told you a cow to be?"

My father being NW7 at 35 made me so preoccupied that I was not in the position to mock bald people.

However, I am sure that, if I had not been thinning out myself, I would have stupidly thought that bald people saw it coming somehow and I would have shown off my mane. That is how idiotic people (me first) can be.
Reminds me of the Orwell quote, 'at 50 everyone has the face they deserve'
 

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Reminds me of the Orwell quote, 'at 50 everyone has the face they deserve'
Yeah then it was not Montaigne :D sorry
However it is not true IMHO. If you have protruding ears and a big nose, and are bald, how did you deserve it?
Sure, if you are obese and have a double chin and have a too serious expression, you "deserve" your defects, but we are born with stuff we definitely cannot change.
 

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Yeah then it was not Montaigne :D sorry
However it is not true IMHO. If you have protruding ears and a big nose, and are bald, how did you deserve it?
Sure, if you are obese and have a double chin and have a too serious expression, you "deserve" your defects, but we are born with stuff we definitely cannot change.
Lets not let logic and reason get in the way of a good quote ;)
 

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Used to be pretty confident that the day I laughed at a baldy who was getting increasingly frustrated at his child slapping his bald head in front of everyone was the day my balding started. Later I realised that my balding must have started before that, I was mocking my own defect.
 

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Are we any better than the people with full heads of hair we insult for not liking us?

I certainly was not aware of how devastating it can be, and I did not empathize like I do now.

But I would not have insulted people over it.

I always felt I would go bald, my dad is NW7 since his 20's and I always had a big forehead. But I remember thinking that it's no big deal as it happens to loads of guys and is out of my control. This was when I was blue pilled though.

When I lose my virginity and started trying to play the game, I started to realize the importance of looks and how much hair factors into that. Suddenly I looked at my hairline with a new fear.

Once I had confirmed it was receding I was fully woken to hairlosses impact. I looked at my NW4 (since 17) mate with a new sense of respect and sadness. I truly hadn't ever thought about how much it must suck for him.

So evertime people are ignorant of the devastating affects of hairloss I try and remind myself that I was like that once.
 

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Yeah then it was not Montaigne :D sorry
However it is not true IMHO. If you have protruding ears and a big nose, and are bald, how did you deserve it?
Sure, if you are obese and have a double chin and have a too serious expression, you "deserve" your defects, but we are born with stuff we definitely cannot change.

You must mean Camus but in typical psychoanalytical style he didn't specify an age.

Lincoln could actually be attributed as the origin of the sentiment, though I don't know if it was intended the same way.

Good posts though
 

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However, I am sure that, if I had not been thinning out myself, I would have stupidly thought that bald people saw it coming somehow and I would have shown off my mane. That is how idiotic people (me first) can be.

"Saw" it coming or "had" it coming?
Is there a typo here?
 

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"Saw" it coming or "had" it coming?
Is there a typo here?
Correct, I edited.

Anyways, there is also the "schadenfreude" factor.
We all compete for the same things: appreciation, praise, affection.

When someone looks worse than we do, it is just natural we will think it's better they look bad and we don't...

So I find it perfectly normal that someone looks at us and thinks they dodged a bullet because we are balding and they are not. Mocking is not very distant from this sentiment.
 

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Correct, I edited.

Anyways, there is also the "schadenfreude" factor.
We all compete for the same things: appreciation, praise, affection.

When someone looks worse than we do, it is just natural we will think it's better they look bad and we don't...

So I find it perfectly normal that someone looks at us and thinks they dodged a bullet because we are balding and they are not. Mocking is not very distant from this sentiment.
Because I had bad skin as a teenager and I was teased a little for it I have never been comfortable mocking people for their physical weaknesses. It taught me how bad it felt to feel ugly and that I never wanted anyone else to feel the same way.
 

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Oh yea I was totally unaware. I never mocked it / found it funny but I never thought of the mental trauma it can cause.

I figured I might go bald at 30 someday, but when you are a 15 year old that sounds like a life time away

Little did I know it had probally already started at 15 and it's not a life time away
 

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first time I ever considered it was when I was 17 lining up at the school cafeteria when a grade 9'er... 14 fukking years old being made fun of by his peers because of his emerging bald spot. He definitely had one. Very blonde thin hair and sure enough he was balding. Opened my eyes and goddam I felt for him.
 

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first time I ever considered it was when I was 17 lining up at the school cafeteria when a grade 9'er... 14 fukking years old being made fun of by his peers because of his emerging bald spot. He definitely had one. Very blonde thin hair and sure enough he was balding. Opened my eyes and goddam I felt for him.
You sounded unusually empathetic for a teenager.
This is not a dig at you.
I admire it.
 

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I've always had felt empathy for people who were shunned, mocked and ridiculed for their appearance, since I'm one of them myself. Oppositely, I have absolutely no empathy at all (with a hint of cruel sadism) for good-looking guys, no matter what their problems/issues may be, since it's always been them who made my life a living hell because of how I look.

dante dante dante!!!!!!!!!
 
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