Before Hair Loss Did You Feel Empathy/sympathy For Bald People?

[Guzam]

I will be a bit philosophical here.
Sorry.

A French philosopher (I would say Montaigne, because he pretty much said everything) wrote that after 21 you are responsible for your own face.

Of course this is an exaggeration but holds a truth: we tend to think people look like what they deserve.

When I see a very short person, I do not mock him/her but I have this impression that it was his/her own body that decided she should not grow, not anyone else (unless of course they are ill).

It's a bit like that Jewish song, "Donna Donna Donna", in which the butcher says to a sad cow on the way to the market: "Who told you a cow to be?"

My father being NW7 at 35 made me so preoccupied that I was not in the position to mock bald people.

However, I am sure that, if I had not been thinning out myself, I would have stupidly thought that bald people had it coming somehow and I would have shown off my mane. That is how idiotic people (me first) can be.

This is 100% what bluepilled fullheads and women think about hair loss.

Thus a legacy way older than Montaigne. In fact, this kind of thinking dates back to Ancient Greece.

In Homer times there was a widely accepted concept which is extensively used in the Iliad: the kalokagathia. It means that what is beautiful outside is beautiful inside. In other words what is beautiful (read youthful) is good and deserves good because of its goodness. Achilles was kalos (beautiful outside) kai agathos (beautiful inside). He was the definition of Hero. He wouldn't have been Hero if he weren't handsome. Outer youth meant inner value. This meant that what wasn't kalos was kakos (ugly, not youthful) which automatically meant it was echthros (ugly inside).

This kind of concept still lives with us. When we see the beautiful we think 'good' and it takes a huge amount of rationality to ascribe inner ugliness to what is beautiful outside. It's almost like the Greek said: beauty, outer and inner, is given by the Gods as a gift. At the same time, what is ugly outside can't possibly be good inside. Remember this is unrelated to old age, which is the age of wisdom and a old man can't be ugly, just old and wise.

That's why when a fullhead sees a young bald man, he thinks he somehow deserves it, because he did bad things and is bad, not good. I heard fullheads tell me that balding is caused by lack of shampoo or hygiene. I heard fullheads tell me that balding is caused by my stress or some kind of depression. Normal young people think that ugliness is somehow deserved, because what is kakos (ugly) has to be echthros (ugly inside).

 

[SmoothSailing]

When we see the beautiful we think 'good'

Tell that to @Dante92 .

f*****g good-looking pricks

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

Only a guy I knew who had a slick horeshoe at age 19, I felt really bad for him.

In general no, I didn't care.

 

[SmoothSailing]

Yeah, right. If you had been through what I have been through, you probably wouldn't joke about it.

Only messing, I can't imagine. Although someday I might be there if treatment fails me.

 

[Roberto_72]

This is 100% what bluepilled fullheads and women think about hair loss.

Thus a legacy way older than Montaigne. In fact, this kind of thinking dates back to Ancient Greece.

In Homer times there was a widely accepted concept which is extensively used in the Iliad: the kalokagathia. It means that what is beautiful outside is beautiful inside. In other words what is beautiful (read youthful) is good and deserves good because of its goodness. Achilles was kalos (beautiful outside) kai agathos (beautiful inside). He was the definition of Hero. He wouldn't have been Hero if he weren't handsome. Outer youth meant inner value. This meant that what wasn't kalos was kakos (ugly, not youthful) which automatically meant it was echthros (ugly inside).

This kind of concept still lives with us. When we see the beautiful we think 'good' and it takes a huge amount of rationality to ascribe inner ugliness to what is beautiful outside. It's almost like the Greek said: beauty, outer and inner, is given by the Gods as a gift. At the same time, what is ugly outside can't possibly be good inside. Remember this is unrelated to old age, which is the age of wisdom and a old man can't be ugly, just old and wise.

That's why when a fullhead sees a young bald man, he thinks he somehow deserves it, because he did bad things and is bad, not good. I heard fullheads tell me that balding is caused by lack of shampoo or hygiene. I heard fullheads tell me that balding is caused by my stress or some kind of depression. Normal young people think that ugliness is somehow deserved, because what is kakos (ugly) has to be echthros (ugly inside).

I have a feeling that the beauty inside \ beauty outside dichotomy can be mainly a product of Enlightenment. Philosophers started questioning what they believed to be "superstitions" and I guess that the new rational thought could not stand the idea that a person's destiny was mostly predetermined and was not forged by the societal constructs they criticized.

Think of the "good savage" idea by Rousseau. "Everyone is born a good person, society makes you a bad person." Any neurologist would find this idea incompatible with what we now know about how characters are formed (I am referring of course to the role of DNA).

 

[kj6723]

I've certainly been guilty of treating people unjustly for various reasons in the past, although no specific instance comes to mind of me mocking someone for hair loss. It's possible I did and just don't remember.

I do remember specific instances of people being mocked for their hair loss and not thinking much of it...thinking it was all in good fun

I never had a thought of hair loss impacting me. The men on my mom's side of the family, including my grandfather, being fullheads. Never thought much of my dad's side and their receded hairlines

Fast forward to NW2.5 with thinning forelock....OH f***. Next thing I knew I was being mocked in public, including in front of females, for being the "thinning guy".....borderline tramatic experience, and this was with hairloss fairly mild compared to many on these boards

 

[Rudiger]

I've certainly been guilty of treating people unjustly for various reasons in the past, although no specific instance comes to mind of me mocking someone for hair loss. It's possible I did and just don't remember.

I do remember specific instances of people being mocked for their hair loss and not thinking much of it...thinking it was all in good fun

I never had a thought of hair loss impacting me. The men on my mom's side of the family, including my grandfather, being fullheads. Never thought much of my dad's side and their receded hairlines

Fast forward to NW2.5 with thinning forelock....OH f***. Next thing I knew I was being mocked in public, including in front of females, for being the "thinning guy".....borderline tramatic experience, and this was with hairloss fairly mild compared to many on these boards

Just been wondering about your Avatar the last few days, does GSP's buzzing kinda annoy you a little bit? He's mid 30's with barely NW1.5 and immaculate density, and shaves the damn thing.

I dunno, I thought that may have been the reason you chose it.

 

[kj6723]

Just been wondering about your Avatar the last few days, does GSP's buzzing kinda annoy you a little bit? He's mid 30's with barely NW1.5 and immaculate density, and shaves the damn thing.

I dunno, I thought that may have been the reason you chose it.

I've just been excited that he's coming out of retirement

But yes, one does have to wonder why he's been a serial buzzer of a sub NW2 lol

 

[Rudiger]

I've just been excited that he's coming out of retirement

Me too! Great champ, and an even better person, I can't see him sticking to Welterweight but who knows, that division isn't strong enough for him right now, he'll blaze through them within a year. I wouldn't blame him for wanting to make some serious money, and it's either up to Bisping, or down to McGregor (SERIOUS money) if his body can still perform how he wants at 155.

With regards to the buzzing, possibly he has sh*t hair, some people just have sh*t hair, like fuzzy, can't do anything with it, just sits up like a bird nest. Looks great buzzed though, sharp aesthetics.

 

[Baldingat188]

I've certainly been guilty of treating people unjustly for various reasons in the past, although no specific instance comes to mind of me mocking someone for hair loss. It's possible I did and just don't remember.

I do remember specific instances of people being mocked for their hair loss and not thinking much of it...thinking it was all in good fun

I never had a thought of hair loss impacting me. The men on my mom's side of the family, including my grandfather, being fullheads. Never thought much of my dad's side and their receded hairlines

Fast forward to NW2.5 with thinning forelock....OH f***. Next thing I knew I was being mocked in public, including in front of females, for being the "thinning guy".....borderline tramatic experience, and this was with hairloss fairly mild compared to many on these boards

Wow that sounds terrible experience . I'm kinda in a similar spot right now - diffuse thinning nw2 and I can't decide if I feel comfortable going out without a hat , I don't want to be mocked

 

[JohnsonDDG]

Me too! Great champ, and an even better person, I can't see him sticking to Welterweight but who knows, that division isn't strong enough for him right now, he'll blaze through them within a year. I wouldn't blame him for wanting to make some serious money, and it's either up to Bisping, or down to McGregor (SERIOUS money) if his body can still perform how he wants at 155.

With regards to the buzzing, possibly he has sh*t hair, some people just have sh*t hair, like fuzzy, can't do anything with it, just sits up like a bird nest. Looks great buzzed though, sharp aesthetics.

Dude has awesome hair:

 

[Rudiger]

Dude has awesome hair:

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Haha I saw that one when searching for him with hair, but things can change as you get older.

I'm a bad judge of age, he could be as old as 14 or 15 there? In that case he probably does still have those potential locks. Mind boggling.

 

[biddybomb]

MMA needs people like GSP and Mcgregor. As a casual fan of the sport I don't think I am far off in saying that for the longest time the wider perception of combat sports (other than boxing I suppose given how popular it was/is) were that they were filled with thugs and criminals and you didn't necessary have to be an athlete to be part of it. You just had to be a thug. I understand now how wrong this is but you need athletic and commanding figures like GSP and Mcgregor to sell the sport, both of which are blessed with very nice frames and cut a striking figure.

I guess this is why they thrust Sage Thundercock in there at such a young age.

 

[Rudiger]

MMA needs people like GSP and Mcgregor. As a casual fan of the sport I don't think I am far off in saying that for the longest time the wider perception of combat sports (other than boxing I suppose given how popular it was/is) were that they were filled with thugs and criminals and you didn't necessary have to be an athlete to be part of it. You just had to be a thug. I understand now how wrong this is but you need athletic and commanding figures like GSP and Mcgregor to sell the sport, both of which are blessed with very nice frames and cut a striking figure.

I guess this is why they thrust Sage Thundercock in there at such a young age.

Jeff Novitzky has been instrumental in actually enforcing their drug laws, and this has changed the whole culture of UFC even among the fighters themselves. You are right about them formally being thugs, it's not a throwaway thing to say, and before they'd easily turn a blind eye to some roided up thug if he brought the sales in, they'd only intervene if he got too good and the drama was spoilt (Jon Jones). The likes of a Palhares will never be seen again in the UFC, this wouldn't have happened without Novitzky and the trickle down effect.

As for Sage, good fighter and deserves what he gets, I even like Elias despite the jealousy that he's now sponsored by a shampoo company.

What a punchable face. If only it wouldn't punch the sh*t out of you back.

Ohhh that's better. And I'm sure it's just the picture but I like how it looks like NW8 recession at the temples.

Cry some blood b**ch, shampoo queen...

 

[kj6723]

Me too! Great champ, and an even better person, I can't see him sticking to Welterweight but who knows, that division isn't strong enough for him right now, he'll blaze through them within a year. I wouldn't blame him for wanting to make some serious money, and it's either up to Bisping, or down to McGregor (SERIOUS money) if his body can still perform how he wants at 155.

With regards to the buzzing, possibly he has sh*t hair, some people just have sh*t hair, like fuzzy, can't do anything with it, just sits up like a bird nest. Looks great buzzed though, sharp aesthetics.

GSP is an absolute animal. I hope he still has it. I'm a little worried with him being the other side of 35 now that he'll have slowed a step, but he's always been a really, really smart fighter so he hopefully he knows exactly what he's capable. He's already been a longtime title holder, so I have an inkling, given the thoughtful dude he is, that he's got some sort of grand plan to further cement his greatness.....possibly become the UFC's first 3 weight champ?

The McGregor fight would be HUGE. Just think about how epic that would be. And GSP says he can make 155, so who knows

He's also as aesthetic as they come. no homo lol

 

[Rudiger]

GSP is an absolute animal. I hope he still has it. I'm a little worried with him being the other side of 35 now that he'll have slowed a step, but he's always been a really, really smart fighter so he hopefully he knows exactly what he's capable. He's already been a longtime title holder, so I have an inkling, given the thoughtful dude he is, that he's got some sort of grand plan to further cement his greatness.....possibly become the UFC's first 3 weight champ?

The McGregor fight would be HUGE. Just think about how epic that would be. And GSP says he can make 155, so who knows

He's also as aesthetic as they come. no homo lol

Yeah I'd totally bang him and marry him in a civil ceremony if necessary in the country of our choice and adopt kids with him and live happily until death.

No homo tho bro.

 

[kj6723]

Yeah I'd totally bang him and marry him in a civil ceremony if necessary in the country of our choice and adopt kids with him and live happily until death.

No homo tho bro.

And that explosive athleticism

 

[kj6723]

GSP and Mcgregor to sell the sport, both of which are blessed with very nice frames and cut a striking figure.

Fun fact about GSP, he only lifts for looks

 

[kj6723]

Just found a vid of him with his hair slightly grown out

 

[Rudiger]

Fun fact about GSP, he only lifts for looks

Holy f***, I was joking before about marrying him.

No but seriously that's genius, and makes a lot of sense. I went to a UFC event not long ago and one of the prelims was a guy with a very big gut, it was pure flab, and I was watching it with a few guys who've boxed/kickboxed/muaythai etc and are involved in the industry, and they insisted it didn't matter at all, if he has that energy and uses it efficiently then he is just as effective as being cut and ripped.

I still didn't believe it completely, I still thought that surely cutting weight would mean a longer endurance, but watching GSP explain it validates the reasoning more so.

Gotta love his honesty.