Being Petty (seven Random Words Requirement)

[CaptainForehead]

It's the standard advice and it's incorrect.

The metabolic theory of obesity is simply a lot more effective at actually helping people than the caloric theory.

It's known from studies that if you crash men's caloric consumption to 1,500 calories a day and make them exercise the most likely outcome is initial weight loss, followed by metabolic adaptation, followed by weight gain to an even higher weight than where the men started. By and large, the overwhelming majority of subjects in "calories in, calories out" weight loss studies don't achieve long-term weight loss.

It's much better to focus on hormones and metabolic effects:what you're eating and when you're eating it, rather than only how much you're eating.

I'd like to look at these studies, I'm sure they have holes in them.

In my opinion, movement is quite effective. By movement, I don't mean cardio three times a week. I mean movement in your daily life. Living in Europe, this is what I've experienced.
To go to work: I walk
To get lunch: I walk
To get groceries: I walk
To go to the gym: I walk

The calories expended in walking by themselves are not that much, but being in constant movement has a bit of an appetite suppressing effect. If I'm stationary, I can overeat and feel fine. If I have to move, I feel a bit sick.

Also, if you're reducing calories, you have to shift towards nutrient rich foods just because you're not eating as much and still need to get nutrients in.

Growing up, and till recently when I would visit my brother, I would get sh*t for eating lots of vegetables. "People don't eat so much vegetables!"
"I just bought vegetables a couple days ago, you've gone through it all??!"
"People will find you weird if you eat so much vegetables!"

I'm not getting sh*t for my dietary habits now.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

I'd like to look at these studies, I'm sure they have holes in them.

In my opinion, movement is quite effective. By movement, I don't mean cardio three times a week. I mean movement in your daily life. Living in Europe, this is what I've experienced.
To go to work: I walk
To get lunch: I walk
To get groceries: I walk
To go to the gym: I walk

The calories expended in walking by themselves are not that much, but being in constant movement has a bit of an appetite suppressing effect. If I'm stationary, I can overeat and feel fine. If I have to move, I feel a bit sick.

Also, if you're reducing calories, you have to shift towards nutrient rich foods just because you're not eating as much and still need to get nutrients in.

Growing up, and till recently when I would visit my brother, I would get sh*t for eating lots of vegetables. "People don't eat so much vegetables!"
"I just bought vegetables a couple days ago, you've gone through it all??!"
"People will find you weird if you eat so much vegetables!"

I'm not getting sh*t for my dietary habits now.

An ok place to get started is to read Good Calories, Bad Calories by Gary Taubes. It helped break the nutritional consensus of the early 2000s, that saturated fat and cholesterol were the devil.

For more recent information, check the aetiology of obesity on YouTube by Jason Fung, part 1.

Both of them list their references.

If you check one or both you can let me know about it and we can discuss it in greater detail.

Vegetables are wonderful. If anybody gives you sh*t for eating vegetables consider just saying nothing and lifting your shirt.

 

[JohnsonDDG]

An ok place to get started is to read Good Calories, Bad Calories by Gary Taubes. It helped break the nutritional consensus of the early 2000s, that saturated fat and cholesterol were the devil.

For more recent information, check the aetiology of obesity on YouTube by Jason Fung, part 1.

Both of them list their references.

If you check one or both you can let me know about it and we can discuss it in greater detail.

Vegetables are wonderful. If anybody gives you sh*t for eating vegetables consider just saying nothing and lifting your shirt.

What is the secret to your weight loss david?

Do you have a set calorie intake?

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

What is the secret to your weight loss david?

Do you have a set calorie intake?

Expensive goji berry extract supplements, positive attitude, and drinking lots of water.

 

[Afro_Vacancy]

What is the secret to your weight loss david?

Do you have a set calorie intake?

It's different for everybody. If I could go back in time and give some advice to my younger self, it would be the following:
High intensity exercise is best, good sleep, avoiding snacks, later breakfast and earlier dinner are helpful, focus on higher fat foods, avoid artificial sweeteners, sugar, simple grains.

I recently added a fan to my room, and blackout curtains, to improve my sleep. I hope to be more consistent about using them every night. That's going to be one change. The other change will be to start working out again, I'm recovered from surgery, I'll try and go a couple times next week.

 

[Saurabhaj]

Some might feel off topic:Apologize to them.

Here is one model named Bhumika Pednekar who was initially slim,
but for her debut movie,she achieved huge weight gain to look plum.
Later after movie completion,she went back to her normal figure.
http://www.bollywoodshaadis.com/articles/bhumi-pednekar-weight-loss-journey-4033

 

[whatevr]

This is a bit off topic but I'd like to discuss how Americans drink coffee. I find it ridiculous. Can non-Americans like @WhitePolarBear abd @Dante92 discuss?

1) Americans typically think that coffee "needs" sugar, I see people pour multiple sugar sachets in coffee. What for? The default should be zero sugar. I know some low carb people, and for them the hardest part is (seriously) not having the sugar in coffee.

I virtually never add sugar (or stevia) to my coffee.

2) Milk. I sometimes take milk in coffee and sometimes not.

At work we have coffee for Monday morning discussions. There are three options for milk: skim milk, reduced fat 2% milk, and a low-fat cream Americans call "half and half". There is no option for full fat milk or real cream. This is typical and often seen in restaurants and coffee shops as well.

Oh, haha, I'm European and I put 3 tsp of white sugar in my coffee (pure black coffee, no milk). I don't care, it's just too awful tasting without, and it's something I look forward to every morning. Doesn't stop me from losing weight or being healthy so whatever.

I also never drink coffee before eating, or if I do, I usually have breakfast like 5 minutes after. I find that it tends to provoke an adrenaline response when drunk without food, and makes me feel bad (perhaps blood sugar crash). When taken with food I only get all the positives without any negatives.

Then again, I come from a Ray Peat background, and still dabble in some of it occasionally, so, perhaps that puts into context why I don't hate on sugar.

I scorn wheat more than white sugar. Truth. But that is simply because I had some issues in the past which were very aggravated by wheat products but sugar and fruit did me no harm in any way, shape or form. Since then I believe wheat contains some really nasty stuff and is best avoided. Denise Minger's dissection of the China Study which found a correlation between wheat and heart disease, take it for what you will, doesn't really help me like the damn stuff any more.