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Hazah! Rejoice
Biojapan 2018 Shiseido Long John Silver
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Hazah! Rejoice
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The guy never asked for a dime. You guys are shitting on him and he's been sick. @Long John Silver owes nobody nothing. Some of these threads are really turning into a bunch of whiney emotional bitchy finasteride banter.
Replicel posted an update today
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/replicel-ceo-provides-updated-outlook-300730699.html
And it's weird. They're very "excited" about a partnership with a chinese company and only mentions Shiseido in this weirdly passive aggressive paragraph:
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/replicel-ceo-provides-updated-outlook-300730699.html
And it's weird. They're very "excited" about a partnership with a chinese company and only mentions Shiseido in this weirdly passive aggressive paragraph:
"Many shareholders have been asking about the status of our relationship with Shiseido. This remains unchanged from the information provided in September 2016. This may or may not change if positive clinical data is announced in the coming weeks from the Japanese clinical study and/or if Shiseido announces an intention to commercially launch the product in Japan. We continue to press for a commercial solution with Shiseido that is mutually beneficial. "
To read between the lines, it sounds like Shiseido has shut them out completely at this point and Replicel has all but written off the possibility of future business dealings with them. This doesn't hint at possible results from the study, but it does seem relations between the two companies continue to be not good.
If I was Shiseido, I would ditch Replicel as soon as I can legally. Replicel broke the business promise for not carrying out phase 2 simultaneously. In fact, looks like Shiseido is like a pawn now, for which, if succeeds, good for Replicel and if fails, Replicel saved a lot of money yet earn 4M for a useless license and could throw away their RCH-01 sh*t into the dust bin already.
All the best for Shiseido.
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The year 1945 has something to say about that champ
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So it seems a clinical update could take 15/18 months? Could be a bad sign
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Stop this bullshit Posts. RepliCel knows nothing about RCH-01 until Shiseido reveals something. The update of RepliCel is useless
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I hope the allies will be excluded from Tsuji and Shiseido treatments. The ultimate revenge for Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
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Nooo that would be a disproportionate revenge
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Thank you for your patience and giving me some time to recover a little. Things got sh*t really fast and the hotel maybe over reacted a little too Bros don't know....
So bros BioJapan was both interesting and disappointing. There is no way around this bros and I also needed time to contemplate it and then post a fair write up (not emotional or furious since I spent a lot of effort and money). BioJapan was not a congress or a conference like many bros were saying. BioJapan was primarily an industry meet up. It happened to have some 'seminars' and 'conferences' but there was no mistaking it bros. It was for businesses to show off, meet up, talk business, get contacts and ultimately print money I guess.
Bros Japan is going to be interesting in the future for sure
This expo showed how far ahead some of these companies were in customizing medicines and already trialling regenerative and genetic medicines. It also showed that there was a lot of interest from the global arena purely for the money to be made. The presenter bros said it was way behind drugs with very small investment and tiny tiny sector for obvious reasons. Overall, pretty exciting for the future and medicine bros just not really relevant to our hair situation which sucked for me. They also told me to stop taking pictures but I still tried Bros!
Skipping to the Shiseido session. It started with the nobel winner 2018 Honjo talking about the expo, center for excellence, the future and his prize. Loads of people seemed to have come just to see him? They left soon as his talk finished bros haha. The next guy Kawamata basically showed off Kobe and how its a biotech city and how so many companies are all in the same area, how its looking to make money, open for business, profits, the support the city provides and their integrator position. Bros he talked a lot and it was one big advertisement for Kobe and his organization.
Finally it was Oga's turn. Sadly, it was nothing about what bros were saying. The presentation was basically selling Shiseido as a brand, their history and their hair lineage relationship. All the content seemed to be from other studies already published. They touched on DSCC but nothing new there really either and covered already. They mentioned a 5% improvement in 6 months took photo. This was essentially the official presentation.
Off the record, for rch it got a bit interesting bros in a weird way. They are not expecting the results very soon. Studies and its analysis will take time and when I kept pushing it seemed like the response might not have been that good? I don't know. Kept pushing what about some release date or something bro and got a 2yr maybe. I got the vibe that it might be somewhat strained and maybe not as effective or they losing interest or its not working out or costing too much? I don't know just seemed weird.
Bros there were tons of companies there. All the big boys were there and loads of Japanese companies. Many had little seminars and presentations about their products and services. I had checked out the place much as I could bros. Saw crispr units, companies selling specialized lab mice haha, imaging machines, all kinds of products for cultures and mediums, drugs and their companies. And then who do I find bros? Fidia haha. Again disappointing as sh*t and you'll see from the pic took later on but pushed ahead bros. Asked about release and essentially got maybe realistically next year though trying this year. Why sudden rush? Mumbled about someone else bringing it so rush but No clear answer. International? nope. Asked about studies? yeah brotzu did them but nothing on hand. Stabilized? guesses so but not sure how long or any changes. Ok thanks bro lol.
Pics:
https://imgur.com/a/Lpm6ySl
https://imgur.com/a/DCkQvbV
Correct order is last to first
I have the audio of the session if anyone wants it.
I hope that helps somewhat Bros! For what it's worth I
really tried my best for us Bros and was super excited to bring us a cure! Not lose a lot of money and get sick in the process.
So bros BioJapan was both interesting and disappointing. There is no way around this bros and I also needed time to contemplate it and then post a fair write up (not emotional or furious since I spent a lot of effort and money). BioJapan was not a congress or a conference like many bros were saying. BioJapan was primarily an industry meet up. It happened to have some 'seminars' and 'conferences' but there was no mistaking it bros. It was for businesses to show off, meet up, talk business, get contacts and ultimately print money I guess.
Bros Japan is going to be interesting in the future for sure
This expo showed how far ahead some of these companies were in customizing medicines and already trialling regenerative and genetic medicines. It also showed that there was a lot of interest from the global arena purely for the money to be made. The presenter bros said it was way behind drugs with very small investment and tiny tiny sector for obvious reasons. Overall, pretty exciting for the future and medicine bros just not really relevant to our hair situation which sucked for me. They also told me to stop taking pictures but I still tried Bros!
Skipping to the Shiseido session. It started with the nobel winner 2018 Honjo talking about the expo, center for excellence, the future and his prize. Loads of people seemed to have come just to see him? They left soon as his talk finished bros haha. The next guy Kawamata basically showed off Kobe and how its a biotech city and how so many companies are all in the same area, how its looking to make money, open for business, profits, the support the city provides and their integrator position. Bros he talked a lot and it was one big advertisement for Kobe and his organization.
Finally it was Oga's turn. Sadly, it was nothing about what bros were saying. The presentation was basically selling Shiseido as a brand, their history and their hair lineage relationship. All the content seemed to be from other studies already published. They touched on DSCC but nothing new there really either and covered already. They mentioned a 5% improvement in 6 months took photo. This was essentially the official presentation.
Off the record, for rch it got a bit interesting bros in a weird way. They are not expecting the results very soon. Studies and its analysis will take time and when I kept pushing it seemed like the response might not have been that good? I don't know. Kept pushing what about some release date or something bro and got a 2yr maybe. I got the vibe that it might be somewhat strained and maybe not as effective or they losing interest or its not working out or costing too much? I don't know just seemed weird.
Bros there were tons of companies there. All the big boys were there and loads of Japanese companies. Many had little seminars and presentations about their products and services. I had checked out the place much as I could bros. Saw crispr units, companies selling specialized lab mice haha, imaging machines, all kinds of products for cultures and mediums, drugs and their companies. And then who do I find bros? Fidia haha. Again disappointing as sh*t and you'll see from the pic took later on but pushed ahead bros. Asked about release and essentially got maybe realistically next year though trying this year. Why sudden rush? Mumbled about someone else bringing it so rush but No clear answer. International? nope. Asked about studies? yeah brotzu did them but nothing on hand. Stabilized? guesses so but not sure how long or any changes. Ok thanks bro lol.
Pics:
https://imgur.com/a/Lpm6ySl
https://imgur.com/a/DCkQvbV
Correct order is last to first
I have the audio of the session if anyone wants it.
I hope that helps somewhat Bros! For what it's worth I
really tried my best for us Bros and was super excited to bring us a cure! Not lose a lot of money and get sick in the process.
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Shiseido pulled a brotzu, in short
inmyhead
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I don't understand fidia's answer. They were doing studies. Even their offical page claimed that they were conducting studies. And you got answer that they didn't do any studies? It's strange
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Maybe the guy who was there was not prepared
Thank you very much for your time and effort. Can you share the recording of Mr. Oga's talk ? Maybe Mr. @Fuji Maru Kagurazaka would get some valueable info out of it.
Are you sure they mentioned 5% improvement in 6 months ? It's really weird since Replicel got 10%. I dont feel good
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Thank you very much for your time and effort. Can you share the recording of Mr. Oga's talk ? Maybe Mr. @Fuji Maru Kagurazaka would get some valueable info out of it.
Are you sure they mentioned 5% improvement in 6 months ? It's really weird since Replicel got 10%. I dont feel good
5 peecent is actually a lot. It's enough to say that it effectively stopped the progression - the minimal increase won't improve one's looks but it proves efficacy
Replicel was able to get 10% after 6 month, iirc. I expected more than that cause Shiseido is improving it. Yes, maintenance is gold but will they commercialize with very little regrowth ? that is why I am worried.