Biojapan 2018 Shiseido Long John Silver

[Vinc2097]

Thanks bro! Now it's clear bros, the 5% improvement is not the phase 2 result. He was probably referring to phase 1...

good news ?

 

[br1]

I don't get it. Was he talking about the RCH01 tech?

If so, why 5% if phase 1 observed much more?

 

[soull]

and the result of this study is inconclusive at the moment as it’s still in the middle of the trial. [/SIZE]

Toward the end:
- Geographical location of Shiseido’s medical lab and a brief explanation on the specialized area and Kobe
- Question: How to make this treatment affordable for baling people wishing to improve their quality of life with this treatment when their health insurance does not cover it?
Answer: The trial is still underway and Shiseido doesn’t have any specific plans for it yet, but hopefully they could find more university hospitals etc that would like to collaborate down the road.


That about sums it up.

minimum 2 years ... I guess

 

[soull]

But why??? We assumed that the study needs only 2 years?!

If my translator does not fail, I read that they are in the middle, right?

 

[Joxy]

“ However, the recent study led by Dr. McElwee shows that it’s not dermal papilla cells, but DSC cells around the dermal papilla cells could actually activate the scalp tissues. The DSC cells could differentiate into the dermal papilla cells thus they would help grow hair longer and dermal papilla cells bigger, too. “

This is actually the best part. New scientific paper and methodology will bring much better results.

 

[alibaba92]

I don't get it. Was he talking about the RCH01 tech?

If so, why 5% if phase 1 observed much more?

I think 5% is phase 1 result. Phase 2 is still on-going, so no results yet ?

 

[alibaba92]

So the 5% increase is the one from phase I.
Thanks for the translation.

Make sense. So, we all assumed that the trials has been finished while the fact that they are not. 5% is the target set by Replicel

@Trichosan, looking for your wife 's help to double confirm @Long John Silver 's translation.
@Long John Silver, thks bro for your every effort, you are really pro.

 

[Pepe with hair]

Make sense. So, we all assumed that the trials has been finished while the fact that they are not. 5% is the target set by Replicel

@Trichosan, looking for your wife 's help to double confirm @Long John Silver 's translation.
@Long John Silver, thks bro for your every effort, you are really pro.

I'm confused, Lee Buckler said the trial was over.

 

[alibaba92]

I'm confused, Lee Buckler said the trial was over.

Dont you get it ? Take LeeBuckler / Replicel words with a grain of salt. They are just like us, knowing nothing.

 

[Pepe with hair]

Nevertheless it is interesting that Shiseido pays attention on the study of McElwee and obviously changed their trial which I think wasn’t part of the agreement between Replicel and Shiseido. In the agreement it was said that Shiseido has to use exactly the same technology like Replicel used in Phase I

Mmmh let just wait until the next conference late November. All this sh*t strats to get confusing. From what the translation says they are defenetly not ready, even not considering for a realese in 2019... WTF Shiseido you were part of the chosen ones.

 

[alibaba92]

Mmmh let just wait until the next conference late November. All this sh*t strats to get confusing. From what the translation says they are defenetly not ready, even not considering for a realese in 2019... WTF Shiseido you were part of the chosen ones.

They agreed to co-develop and share data, not to commercialize by 2018 by any means.

 

[Francesco17]

Maybe something went wrong... Say one or few of the human trial subjects tested positive for cancer - you need to investigate and find out whether it was correlated with the treatment. If that was the case, their best strategy would be to let it all slip into oblivion.

When trials are underway, alas, there's no guarantee they will go well

 

[H]

Mmmh let just wait until the next conference late November. All this sh*t strats to get confusing. From what the translation says they are defenetly not ready, even not considering for a realese in 2019... WTF Shiseido you were part of the chosen ones.

Who's going to the conference to retrieve the info?

 

[Francesco17]

Why do we want to have someone at the conference. Any significant development will be announced publicly

 

[alibaba92]

They are hoping to open the market for clinical use in 2018“ I know this was not a direct statement of Shiseido but the TV station must have spoken with a member of Shiseido who gives them the 2018 release date.
In addition to that Lee Buckler and Rolf Hoffmann confirmed that Shiseido plans to be on the market in 2018 if the data is right.
Now I am only very disappointed about this behavior...

OK

 

[H]

Why do we want to have someone at the conference. Any significant development will be announced publicly

I mean if someone was planning on going I'm not going to b**ch.

 

[Long John Silver]

Bros got a response for the November thing. They've basically said it's all in Japanese and no other languages at all and to their members. The English email they didn't even bother responding to.

 

[Hate da Bt]

Bro thanks for contacting JHRS2018 !! Bro do you can imagine to go to this Event nevertheless? I mean you could record the speech of Jiro Kishimoto/Ryoji Tsuboi and Takashi Tsuji again.
Aterwards I will ask my japanese friend to get this translated for us. Bro I know it is a very high demand on you to go to another Japan trip but for me Bro you are the only Chance to get on deep informations about RCH-01 and Tsuji...

What are your thoughts on visiting Tokyo again to get further infromations Bro?

And ... he's back!

 

[Marcaronii]

And ... he's back!

Mods should Perma ban his IP

 

[Hate da Bt]

Mods should Perma ban his IP

Nah, as long as he behaves, he should be spared.