Calling out feelsbadman again to provide proof of the following

[whatintheworld]

Online and apps aren't indicative of anything, it's mostly filled with fake profiles and bullshit.

If you think you're ugly because you can't get the matches you want on dating apps, you are simply an idiot.

Go out in the real world, social events, group sports, bars, with a group of friends, and approach some women, having fulfilled the 4 conditions I stated.

Of course, this is assuming your social skills are at least passable and you can hold a conversation, provide at least some wit.

 

[Feelsbadman]

Online and apps aren't indicative of anything, it's mostly filled with fake profiles and bullshit.

If you think you're ugly because you can't get the matches you want on dating apps, you are simply an idiot.

Go out in the real world, social events, group sports, bars, with a group of friends, and approach some women, having fulfilled the 4 conditions I stated.

Of course, this is assuming your social skills are at least passable and you can hold a conversation, provide at least some wit.

0 attention from women irl

 

[Feelsbadman]

lots of them are long term singletons

@DoctorHouse knows a thing or two about how these older women work

i wonder why lol
no one wants them

 

[Wolf Pack]

The provider thing is a huge myth. Nobody can tell a high earner from a low earner and even if they could, nobody cares. You might have read one of my posts recently about how trying 'sugar lifestyle reddit' failed horribly for me. Money is only good for buying stuff for yourself; it has no value besides its actual monetary value. If you think that being financially successful will let you overcome baldness, you will be badly disappointed in a few promotions.

It does make me smile when people talk about provider. This **** doesn't even exist in the West except in extreme scenarios and is a sign of being sheltered and lack of experience. A lot of girls are earning just as well as their male peers and from a wealthy family.

 

[Feelsbadman]

It does make me smile when people talk about provider. This **** doesn't even exist in the West except in extreme scenarios and is a sign of being sheltered and lack of experience. A lot of girls are earning just as well as their male peers and from a wealthy family.

are you stupid? it isnt just about money its about finding a stable man to marry and have kids with. they have their fun with tbe bad boys theb look for some. beta to settle with

 

[Wolf Pack]

are you stupid? it isnt just about money its about finding a stable man to marry and have kids with

There are plenty of lonely single men who want a family, but girls don't like them as the attractive men are taken or just wanting sex on the side. The cycle continues.

 

[Feelsbadman]

There are plenty of lonely single men who want a family, but girls don't like them as the attractive men are taken or just wanting sex on the side. The cycle continues.

true but men have more chances with women in theirnlate 20s and early 30s i see it all the time women whove had their fun justv want a guy for security
theyll peobably cheat on him anyway.

 

[Wolf Pack]

true but men have more chances with women in theirnlate 20s and early 30s i see it all the time women whove had their fun justv want a guy for security
theyll peobably cheat on him anyway.

But can you get these women or not?

 

[Feelsbadman]

But can you get these women or not?

the ugly or fat ones

 

[Oknow]

It does make me smile when people talk about provider. This **** doesn't even exist in the West except in extreme scenarios and is a sign of being sheltered and lack of experience. A lot of girls are earning just as well as their male peers and from a wealthy family.

Everyone here thinks they know everything, without relevant experience.

I’m 35, date the demographic he talks about and he @Feelsbadman acts like he knows more than me. Patronising to be honest.

 

[Feelsbadman]

Everyone here thinks they know everything, without relevant experience.

I’m 35, date the demographic he talks about and he @Feelsbadman acts like he knows more than me. Patronising to be honest.

It's not that i know more than you, it's common sense.

 

[Wolf Pack]

It's not that i know more than you, it's common sense.

You know very little. You've had one relationship with a 3/10 cheat and your incel posts are not grounded in reality unlike oknow, other than that it was escorts right? Good for a release and experience but not same as getting a girl normally naturally. That said, the only time I understand your posts is when you express a desire for love, family rearing and how frustrated you are - this is totally normal human behaviour. As you get older, the only single people through choice are usually women who were very picky and it becomes abnormal to be single for others. Divorced with kids is perfectly normal because you still have a family, responsibilities, joint vacations, and could be enjoying dating around too. Always being a single man without a family unfortunately is looked as a red flag regardless.

I'm sorry it's not working out there. I read you are 5ft 5, at this height you really need to be a prettyboy and I have seen such examples with hot girls but usually they have nailed a girl down in their early 20s, for you your past that and with hair loss and lack of such looks apparently from what you say. Full head and average height even with average looks would have been no issue but stack enough negatives and this may happen. The height itself is still not that bad where you can't get a single pretty girl, it's just a few negatives put together, you also seem one dimensional personality wise and that definitely will ruin chances with girls around you (outside of apps).

You're really going to have to take a leaf out of @Caillou 's book and not end up rotting on forums in pain and finding a long healthy escape plan. This place should be for education, fun and light therapy with like minded individuals - never more than that and for that you need to get help too. I wouldn't give up in your shoes and focus on physical fitness and getting all your hair back - if it doesn't work out at least you tried. Not trying is one of the worst things someone can do. Limb lengthening can easily give you 3 inches without your proportions looking off even 4-5 inches, but I don't know how much difference this would make to your life truly.

 

[Feelsbadman]

You know very little. You've had one relationship with a 3/10 cheat and your incel posts are not grounded in reality unlike oknow, other than that it was escorts right? Good for a release and experience but not same as getting a girl normally naturally. That said, the only time I understand your posts is when you express a desire for love, family rearing and how frustrated you are - this is totally normal human behaviour. As you get older, the only single people through choice are usually women who were very picky and it becomes abnormal to be single for others. Divorced with kids is perfectly normal because you still have a family, responsibilities, joint vacations, and could be enjoying dating around too. Always being a single man without a family unfortunately is looked as a red flag regardless.

I'm sorry it's not working out there. I read you are 5ft 5, at this height you really need to be a prettyboy and I have seen such examples with hot girls but usually they have nailed a girl down in their early 20s, for you your past that and with hair loss and lack of such looks apparently from what you say. Full head and average height even with average looks would have been no issue but stack enough negatives and this may happen. The height itself is still not that bad where you can't get a single pretty girl, it's just a few negatives put together, you also seem one dimensional personality wise and that definitely will ruin chances with girls around you (outside of apps).

You're really going to have to take a leaf out of @Caillou 's book and not end up rotting on forums in pain and finding a long healthy escape plan. This place should be for education, fun and light therapy with like minded individuals - never more than that and for that you need to get help too. I wouldn't give up in your shoes and focus on physical fitness and getting all your hair back - if it doesn't work out at least you tried. Not trying is one of the worst things someone can do. Limb lengthening can easily give you 3 inches without your proportions looking off even 4-5 inches, but I don't know how much difference this would make to your life truly.

Good post,

But It's pretty common for women, as they get older, to look for a man to settle with and marry/have children. I've seen this in real life not online. I thought this was common sense. Are you saying this is not true?
I've seen it so many times in real life.

 

[Wolf Pack]

Good post,

But It's pretty common for women, as they get older, to look for a man to settle with and marry/have children. I've seen this in real life not online. I thought this was common sense. Are you saying this is not true?
I've seen it so many times in real life.

It's true I guess but the problem is it's not a panacea in itself for them or the man, kids is one thing but if they are not in a happy relationship it could get messy for either party eventually. The older ones on apps I guess will lower their standards but I am not sure how much, if they are used to being pretty it's harder to drop standards a lot. Overall, I still think the pretty cool girls are not even on apps except some broken ones or gold digger/whoreish types. I don't think I could ever have settled for a woman I have no attraction for, has slept around a lot, broken in some way and wants kids with me. You need to start seriously looking for girls that are somewhat of a package and get to know them - it gets rarer and harder as you age as they are naturally taken. I would look closer to home if you can though I know apps give you instant coverage and girls, but it's like ordering junk versus romantic dinner beachside, of course there are exceptions.

 

[Feelsbadman]

It's true I guess but the problem is it's not a panacea in itself for them or the man, kids is one thing but if they are not in a happy relationship it could get messy for either party eventually. The older ones on apps I guess will lower their standards but I am not sure how much, if they are used to being pretty it's harder to drop standards a lot. Overall, I still think the pretty cool girls are not even on apps except some broken ones or gold digger/whoreish types. I don't think I could ever have settled for a woman I have no attraction for, has slept around a lot, broken in some way and wants kids with me. You need to start seriously looking for girls that are somewhat of a package and get to know them - it gets rarer and harder as you age as they are naturally taken. I would look closer to home if you can though I know apps give you instant coverage and girls, but it's like ordering junk versus romantic dinner beachside, of course there are exceptions.

i totally agree,
Unfortunately though, I think my time is already up. I have lost interest using dating apps and trying to filter out/find a women, like you said and in my experience as well, it seems that most girls on these apps are broken / damaged. Decent women don't need dating apps to find a man. I've heard decent women even say "i'd never use tinder". These are the quality women you want to be with. But they all seem taken by 25. I'm pretty jaded from my last relationship, but i shouldn't of been surprised as she was bottom of the barrel, no sane man would have any relationship with her. I've just lost interest but at the same time i still have that frustration/loneliness sometimes and need to be with women especially as i actually had a gf before and do miss aspects of it.

 

[whatintheworld]

You know very little. You've had one relationship with a 3/10 cheat and your incel posts are not grounded in reality unlike oknow, other than that it was escorts right? Good for a release and experience but not same as getting a girl normally naturally. That said, the only time I understand your posts is when you express a desire for love, family rearing and how frustrated you are - this is totally normal human behaviour. As you get older, the only single people through choice are usually women who were very picky and it becomes abnormal to be single for others. Divorced with kids is perfectly normal because you still have a family, responsibilities, joint vacations, and could be enjoying dating around too. Always being a single man without a family unfortunately is looked as a red flag regardless.

I'm sorry it's not working out there. I read you are 5ft 5, at this height you really need to be a prettyboy and I have seen such examples with hot girls but usually they have nailed a girl down in their early 20s, for you your past that and with hair loss and lack of such looks apparently from what you say. Full head and average height even with average looks would have been no issue but stack enough negatives and this may happen. The height itself is still not that bad where you can't get a single pretty girl, it's just a few negatives put together, you also seem one dimensional personality wise and that definitely will ruin chances with girls around you (outside of apps).

You're really going to have to take a leaf out of @Caillou 's book and not end up rotting on forums in pain and finding a long healthy escape plan. This place should be for education, fun and light therapy with like minded individuals - never more than that and for that you need to get help too. I wouldn't give up in your shoes and focus on physical fitness and getting all your hair back - if it doesn't work out at least you tried. Not trying is one of the worst things someone can do. Limb lengthening can easily give you 3 inches without your proportions looking off even 4-5 inches, but I don't know how much difference this would make to your life truly.

The truth revealed itself.

Feelsbadman, you aren't ugly. The problem is, depending on where you live, you are short. For many women unfortunately this is a dealbreaker.

For you, having all the things I mentioned in my first post is critical.

If you are in the Netherlands or Germany, most girls will be around 5'10" there, you will have a tough time I'm sorry to say.

 

[whatintheworld]

You can be upset and find things are unfair but the sooner you accept this and focus exclusively on improving everything else you can control, your odds of success will improve.

 

[Feelsbadman]

You can be upset and find things are unfair but the sooner you accept this and focus exclusively on improving everything else you can control, your odds of success will improve.

what can i improve when i have all the genetic traits women dont like?

 

[whatintheworld]

what can i improve when i have all the genetic traits women dont like?

No one here has seen your hair so we can't comment on that.

But you can improve the four things I already mentioned here, plus your social skills and financial situation.

Your height will be a dealbreaker to many though so you have to keep this in mind, just being real with you because I want you to succeed.

 

[justinbieberscombover]

Since feelsbadman feels that once someone is ugly there is nothing that can be done, I challenge him to find only one example, anywhere online or in real life, of an ugly person with:

1) a good, stylish haircut
2) someone in shape/who works out
3) nice, well fitting clothes
4) no obvious deformities like bad teeth, unibrow, as these are all fixable.

All of these are obtainable for feelsbadman because:

1) he can get a hair transplant if his hair is currently too bad to be styled
2) he can get in shape as long as he is not paralyzed/in a wheelchair
3) he can go shopping for nice clothes as long as he is employed/has some income and a basic sense of style
4) he can afford to see a dentist

I proclaim that there are no more excuses for him if he fails to find proof of this.

Hey I was thinking about this today as well. I can't imagine a guy who puts a lot of effort into looking good and still fails to be attractive enough for women. I know because it worked for me.