Can An Average Person Spot Hair Loss?

[JohnsonDDG]

I'm starting to think that a lot of people cannot spot a receding hairline unless its very obvious. I've been guest blogging once a week for a mens lifestyle magazine and I was writing about the designer Tom Ford and I added that he was had a distinctive look with his closely cropped receding hairline - to which the response is - Tom Ford's hair is not receding.

And obviously to me, as a norwood spotter, it is completely obvious. But this isn't the first time this has happened. In fact I distinctly remember it happening twice before - once with a discussion about Jude Law circa 2006 and once around a year ago regarding Daniel Craig. Both times it was women who denied that either of them were losing their hair despite all three of these men being roughly around the nw3 mark.

So while I do like being right and I did want to force my point each time someone failed to notice their mistake - a part of me was relieved that people are a bit ignorant towards hair loss. Those of you who know me and have seen my picture will know that i'm similar to where Jude Law is in that picture, and so it is quite nice to think that a good deal of people will actually think I could be a fullhead.

It does seem crazy to me as it seems so glaringly obvious. And yet, it appears that maybe anything around nw3 or under doesn't really matter all that much unless you want to be perfect.

Has anyone else noticed that many people are ignorant to hair loss unless it is very obvious?

 

[Pacey123]

Depends on the age. A 30+ male with NW3 is like a 16yo with NW1. It also depends on the face. If you start life with a huge forehead even a NW2 can ruin your appeareance.

But generally speaking density is key, i see so many young NW2 to NW2.5's which i see as balding lol but to the average man women it doesn't.

 

[Pacey123]

density is everything - if you have density then people think its just mature hairline up until NW3 and it won't signal "hairloss" to the average person

Yeah, i even thought that i look manlier and more attractive because of my receding templepoints and temples as they made my forehead look wider. But then i realised that my whole top was diffuse af. Now I'm growing back so much but my temples go forward as well again, i'm looking like 18 again ^^. But i rather have a smaller forehead than diffuse thinning.

 

[Trichosan]

Depends on the age. A 30+ male with NW3 is like a 16yo with NW1. It also depends on the face. If you start life with a huge forehead even a NW2 can ruin your appeareance.

But generally speaking density is key, i see so many young NW2 to NW2.5's which i see as balding lol but to the average man women it doesn't.

Spot on! Concept would make an interesting picture presentation. Most masculine stereotype is low forehead, predominently larger lower face, full crown.

 

[JohnsonDDG]

The vast majority of people don't notice anything below NW4, not consciously anyway.

For example, my ex-girlfriend would say about Jude Law: "He's not so handsome anymore lately..." without being able to pinpoint the reason why.

I once had a girlfriend who said that bald men make her feel sick - this was five years ago before I was a nw3 and my hair loss was barely noticeable. I broke up with her for this reason a week later but I made out it was because I wasn't ready to commit.

 

[pintosamuel]

I have read somewhere that hair loss can only be noticed once almost 50% of hair has fallen off. I am not sure though on the exact percentage of hair loss, but I guess you would notice initial thining if you look closely. In my case, I noticed by hairline recede and the hair strands becoming thinner, breaking easily.

 

[yetti]

Lol, hate for baldness is definitely cultural and taught.

"Bald men make me sick."

I've never heard anything similar in my country.

Where do I hear such harsh comments about baldness?

Oh that's right, American movies and TV shows.

Baldness is not pleasing to the eye and it makes you less attractive but that's it.

Saying it's disgusting or that it makes you feel sick is overreacting. Just a bit.

You call your very own Belgian society "sick" for mocking baldness in this very thread.
https://www.hairlosstalk.com/intera...er-is-a-bald-ugly-young-man-in-his-30s.97906/

Hate for baldness is definitely cultural and taught... in your country. According to you. A year ago. What happened to you this year that you became so anti-American?

 

[JohnsonDDG]

Lol, hate for baldness is definitely cultural and taught.

"Bald men make me sick."

I've never heard anything similar in my country.

Where do I hear such harsh comments about baldness?

Oh that's right, American movies and TV shows.

Baldness is not pleasing to the eye and it makes you less attractive but that's it.

Saying it's disgusting or that it makes you feel sick is overreacting. Just a bit.

The thing is she was British - probably the most folicly challenged nation on earth.

We was watching a film and she kept saying, 'I hope that bald guy gets shot.' That's how it came up - I casually asked 'do you hate bald men or something?'

 

[yetti]

They're not directly insulting his baldness.

They just thought he looked like Mister Potato Head from Toy Story, which is true and uncanny.

I've never seen or heard anyone say that his baldness was ugly, disgusting and what not.

You can parse "That's how you're treated when you're bald, even if you're the most powerful man in Belgium." and "Sick society" all you like. You do have that right, as they're your words.

 

[yetti]

People do that and think they're smart: "look, you said something different 6 years ago! You're such a fraud!"

Not 6 years ago, 1 year ago. It's fine to constantly change your position, I could care less... but when it involves things like telling suicidal people that hair loss is as bad as a terminal disease (fortunately you stopped doing this) or disparaging countries then I think it's worth pointing out. I don't think it makes you a fraud, I think you're genuine.

 

[PappinAce]

the average person doesn't notice the sh*t we do. i saw a recent article describe Bernie Sanders as having a "full head of white hair".

 

[Patrick_Bateman]

the average person doesn't notice the sh*t we do. i saw a recent article describe Bernie Sanders as having a "full head of white hair".

He does though.

 

[JohnsonDDG]

Not 6 years ago, 1 year ago. It's fine to constantly change your position, I could care less... but when it involves things like telling suicidal people that hair loss is as bad as a terminal disease (fortunately you stopped doing this) or disparaging countries then I think it's worth pointing out. I don't think it makes you a fraud, I think you're genuine.

Controversial idea:

Aggressive premature hair loss is worse than AIDS.

People with AIDS these days lead relatively normal and healthy lives and tend to only a few years less than a normal person. Someone with aggressive hair loss will live longer but those years will be fraught with self loathing, misery, and social and sexual isolation.

 

[yetti]

Controversial idea:

Aggressive premature hair loss is worse than AIDS.

People with AIDS these days lead relatively normal and healthy lives and tend to only a few years less than a normal person. Someone with aggressive hair loss will live longer but those years will be fraught with self loathing, misery, and social and sexual isolation.

worse than AIDS? absolutely not. a worse experience than being hiv positive and getting very successful treatment? yeah, for some people it might be. its no longer a terminal disease for many people, with successful treatment. anyway, obviously one does not want to be hiv positive though.

 

[Rudiger]

He does though.

How depressing. We could have had this man as Commander in Chief instead of crooked Hilldog or our current baffoon.

And with this hair, no doubt it would have happened.

Baldness could yet see this world turn into a smouldering wasteland, and it'll probably happen just as Tsuji releases the real sh*t on the market.

 

[Emu]

You call your very own Belgian society "sick" for mocking baldness in this very thread.
https://www.hairlosstalk.com/intera...er-is-a-bald-ugly-young-man-in-his-30s.97906/

Hate for baldness is definitely cultural and taught... in your country. According to you. A year ago. What happened to you this year that you became so anti-American?

Well said Yetti. Fred is a massive exaggerator of facts. Twice on here I have given advice to people trying to help them with my experience and he accuses me of lying and making up stuff..

When he actually is the one making up stuff to suit his bs.


Might be time to change your name again Fred or Polar Bear.

No one cares what you have to say anymore.

 

[PappinAce]

How depressing. We could have had this man as Commander in Chief instead of crooked Hilldog or our current baffoon.

And with this hair, no doubt it would have happened.

Baldness could yet see this world turn into a smouldering wasteland, and it'll probably happen just as Tsuji releases the real sh*t on the market.

you think it was the hair that decided things? in our image-based, superficial world, you're probably right. that's why Kennedy was elected.

 

[JohnsonDDG]

It's true that others are rarely consciously aware of hair loss before the NW4 mark. However, they often think the hair loss sufferer looks worse or uglier, usually without being able to pinpoint why. Perfect Norwood 1 haloes you several notches up for things like perceived quality of personality, competence et.c.

But yeah, up to NW4 you still have a shot at life.

All those people who say shave it as soon as you lose some hair are so incredibly wrong. I remember two years ago when I shaved my hair off because I figured being a nw3 was game over and it ended up being one of the worst decisions i'd ever made. Cutting off my hair made me feel like I'd completely cut off my physical identity. I just felt that the way I looked didn't represent who I was as a person and because of that I retreated into my bedroom for a few months until it grew back.

My advice to anyone under nw4 or under - don't shave it - it will make you look a thousands times worse.

 

[blackg]

You call your very own Belgian society "sick" for mocking baldness in this very thread.
https://www.hairlosstalk.com/intera...er-is-a-bald-ugly-young-man-in-his-30s.97906/

Hate for baldness is definitely cultural and taught... in your country. According to you. A year ago. What happened to you this year that you became so anti-American?

Thank you! I'm glad someone set his Euro *** straight.

 

[blackg]

All those people who say shave it as soon as you lose some hair are so incredibly wrong. I remember two years ago when I shaved my hair off because I figured being a nw3 was game over and it ended up being one of the worst decisions i'd ever made. Cutting off my hair made me feel like I'd completely cut off my physical identity. I just felt that the way I looked didn't represent who I was as a person and because of that I retreated into my bedroom for a few months until it grew back.

My advice to anyone under nw4 or under - don't shave it - it will make you look a thousands times worse.

It all depends on whether the shaved look suits you.
Did you cop sh*t from your friends for shaving it?