Close-cropped Buzz-cut After hair transplant - Is It Possible?

[gimmiehairorgimmiedeath]

Just read yet another thread of a real patient coming back posting about his hair transplant on another forum.

He describes it as soul crushing

Too much of what is presented online with forums is self generated by marketers talking up the procedure. The marketing principle of scarcity is used on a consistent basis by only a couple of clinics and it follows a pattern. Yes go to the clinic that is booked up for 5 years.............they must be really good. It's a no brainer.........right?

The patient with the soul crushing experience didn't know how it works but he seems to be learning..............learning the hard way. It is not a simple procedure and it very often does not make a young man's life better. For many it turns it into a nightmare.

Strong fear mongering ya got there buddy. No one said the procedure is a 100% guarantee but the top doctors know their sh*t and produce results consistently. Choosing the right doctor is crucial, don't be surprised if you get a "soul crushing" result if you don't do your research and let some hack do the job.

 

[topcat]

The forums are worked daily by marketers talking up hair transplants. They work hard at trying to get some names out there and the more they can repeat it the better they feel they are doing.The industry will tell you all the happy guys move on and only these guys with the soul crushing results come back to tell us about it. Then who are all these posters that come here day in and day out talking up hair transplants? Are these patients who have had great results and come back to encourage others? And who are these posters who have never had a hair transplant and why are they encouraging others to have one? Everyday day in and day out. Why in the world would someone do that? Did they just wake up one day and tell themselves young guys losing hair need to be encouraged to have surgery I think I will make that my calling in my spare time when I'm not working my regular job.


If all this deception goes on why would doctors take part? Why would they take part in marketing fraud? Why would anyone even consider a procedure if they were made aware beforehand?


Readers keep asking yourself questions and don’t buy too much into what you read. Much of what is being put out there is for the desperate young man to read and take the bait. Think long and hard about what you see and observe over a very long period of time. When the guys that come back are now considering suicide because they had a procedure and then they are told to move on that same guy could be you.

Look for posters that have become patients and update on a regular basis........weekly............monthly.............where are they? Kind of odd why so few? That doesn't make sense.


Read the forums daily and you will pick up on the patterns.

 

[gimmiehairorgimmiedeath]

The forums are worked daily by marketers talking up hair transplants. They work hard at trying to get some names out there and the more they can repeat it the better they feel they are doing.The industry will tell you all the happy guys move on and only these guys with the soul crushing results come back to tell us about it. Then who are all these posters that come here day in and day out talking up hair transplants? Are these patients who have had great results and come back to encourage others? And who are these posters who have never had a hair transplant and why are they encouraging others to have one? Everyday day in and day out. Why in the world would someone do that? Did they just wake up one day and tell themselves young guys losing hair need to be encouraged to have surgery I think I will make that my calling in my spare time when I'm not working my regular job.


If all this deception goes on why would doctors take part? Why would they take part in marketing fraud? Why would anyone even consider a procedure if they were made aware beforehand?


Readers keep asking yourself questions and don’t buy too much into what you read. Much of what is being put out there is for the desperate young man to read and take the bait. Think long and hard about what you see and observe over a very long period of time. When the guys that come back are now considering suicide because they had a procedure and then they are told to move on that same guy could be you.

Look for posters that have become patients and update on a regular basis........weekly............monthly.............where are they? Kind of odd why so few? That doesn't make sense.


Read the forums daily and you will pick up on the patterns.

It's a well known phenomenon that people who get something handled/taken care of don't tend to come back and talk about it, especially when the time line is pretty long, I'm guilty of doing that myself even though I started out with pretty strong intention to not be one of those guys who disappears a year down the line (was with gyno surgery). You just move on with life and are enjoying the results and forget about the research stuff you were doing beforehand. This has absolutely nothing to do with just the hair transplant industry, it is very disingenuous of you to claim that and I'm not sure what you're trying to achieve by doing so.

I see this general principle on car/bike forums as well, guys don't start threads about how their ride has been operating well, people start threads because their ride is broken/malfunctioning and they're all bent out of shape about it so they find an outlet to rant about it and maybe get some help. So it ends up looking like the car/bike has a ton of problems when overall it's a reliable model. Not only is this concept self evident to all who have experience with this stuff it's also completely logical.

Also there are tons of patients that do check in at the main times up to 9-12 months after, it's around 50-50 in my experience so no idea why you claim it's "so few". Again, would love to know your motivations for being deliberately misleading...

Finally, almost every single failed hair transplant I've found was done by a shitty no name doctor. I'm having a very hard time finding ones from respected top shelf doctors. This shouldn't surprise anyone, how people don't do a ton of research before letting a surgeon anywhere near their head is beyond me, but they do and they pay the price. If I had to guess one of the reasons is because they focus on the location of the doctor and the price. Tons of threads about "who's the best surgeon in X city" "best value doctor in X area", etc. Totally wrong mindset.

 

[topcat]

Again, would love to know your motivations for being deliberately misleading...

I'm in the process of bring a book to market based on 32 years of experience 18 of it includes online forums. For that book I have dozens and dozens of stories many of them include patient experiences with doctors that are heavily promoted on forums and lists. It also includes dozens of stories on the marketers and promoters that work the forums based on those 18 years. The point being the stories didn't come from thin air they are based on facts gathered over 18 years.

I'm not here to debate you. I post for the reader only and if someone doesn't like what I have to say just ignore it. The reader can determine what is true or false by gathering as much information as possible over time while making observations on a continual basis. They can use my points as reference and see if they pick up on the patterns and if they don't than no harm done.

Don't worry too much about what I do.............just keep doing what you are doing.

 

[gimmiehairorgimmiedeath]

I'm in the process of bring a book to market based on 32 years of experience 18 of it includes online forums. For that book I have dozens and dozens of stories many of them include patient experiences with doctors that are heavily promoted on forums and lists. It also includes dozens of stories on the marketers and promoters that work the forums based on those 18 years. The point being the stories didn't come from thin air they are based on facts gathered over 18 years.

I'm not here to debate you. I post for the reader only and if someone doesn't like what I have to say just ignore it. The reader can determine what is true or false by gathering as much information as possible over time while making observations on a continual basis. They can use my points as reference and see if they pick up on the patterns and if they don't than no harm done.

Don't worry too much about what I do.............just keep doing what you are doing.

Join date: April 2017 Claims to have 18 years experience on hair forums. Ok. Mostly joking btw I know there can be reasons for a new account, just funny.

Tries to pin a basic well known phenomenon on all product/procedure based online forums on the hair transplant industry alone like it's some unique nefarious thing and not basic human nature on display. Ok.

Lol anyway, I know that there are shills on forums they are easy as f*** to identify almost all the time. Most suck at their job even if they think they're being clever. Just another part of navigating through the bullshit while doing research.

Also helps to use common sense and not go to f*****g Turkey of all places for a life changing elective surgery, lmao. "Omg it's so cheap! Must be that N.A and Euro docs are just ripping people off! Brb flying to Turkey, no need to research further, these couple random faceless people online said this clinic is legit". *6 months later* "omg my soul is crushed, how did this happen?" Soo many raped donors from FUE mega-sessions...

 

[topcat]

Join date: April 2017 Claims to have 18 years experience on hair forums. Ok. Mostly joking btw I know there can be reasons for a new account, just funny.

Tries to pin a basic well known phenomenon on all product/procedure based online forums on the hair transplant industry alone like it's some unique nefarious thing and not basic human nature on display. Ok.

Lol anyway, I know that there are shills on forums they are easy as f*** to identify almost all the time. Most suck at their job even if they think they're being clever. Just another part of navigating through the bullshit while doing research.

Also helps to use common sense and not go to f*****g Turkey of all places for a life changing elective surgery, lmao. "Omg it's so cheap! Must be that N.A and Euro docs are just ripping people off! Brb flying to Turkey, no need to research further, these couple random faceless people online said this clinic is legit". *6 months later* "omg my soul is crushed, how did this happen?" Soo many raped donors from FUE mega-sessions...

Keeping promoting as an average Joe and I will keep pointing it out. Readers observe only before proceeding with surgery. The longer you can observe the better off you will be. Worry about yourself and don't fall for the bait.............don't let desperation cloud your logic.

 

[gimmiehairorgimmiedeath]

Keeping promoting as an average Joe and I will keep pointing it out. Readers observe only before proceeding with surgery. The longer you can observe the better off you will be. Worry about yourself and don't fall for the bait.............don't let desperation cloud your logic.

Wait, did you just accuse me of promoting? Dude I've been throwing like 5-6 top surgeon names out in this thread because they are who I've found after a bunch of research as the cream of the crop, for FUT in particular. Shills have a doctor they shill for and try their best to subtly tear down others while pushing their own, not promote their competition as being equally great lmao. Don't know if you are since you talk in vague generalities and switch between addressing the person who's post you quoted and addressing readers in general, it's hard to keep track...

 

[Big L]

Topcat is an expert at fear mongering. He should be banned. I mean what good do any of your posts do topcat? Just annoying reading through your bullshit over and over again. Its just the same sh*t.

 

[topcat]

Industry created screen names is old hat. It doesn’t work so well any more when it’s pointed out as marketing fraud and that doesn’t seem to be the direction this forum wants to take which is nice to see.


If you are pro hair transplant then go for your surgery and post your result with monthly updates in real time so everyone can watch. Otherwise encouraging other young men to move closer to the ledge only serves your own purpose and nothing more. I have hundreds upon hundreds of accounts gathered over decades by young men that were misled by screen names created by the hair transplant industry so it’s not fear mongering but reality and until all this marketing fraud gets sorted out it needs to be pointed out.

Your reactions to my postings are too transparent. Tell it to young guys like some of the examples below that recently wrote about their experience. They listened to posters/hair transplant marketers that try to ban too much truth while working the forums. Trying to bury the truth doesn't work any longer their are hundreds upon hundreds of podcasts looking for honest content along with other outlets. The game has changed why would a forum want to create it's own demise but engaging in lies and fraud because they listened to marketing scumbags. It wouldn't make any sense.

This is just a small taste I don't have room in my book for everything. It's just too much and this covers only one area. There is so much more. If you are researching hair transplants it's best to just observe you will be safer.

1. I'm ashamed to admit but in my darkest hours I've even grappled with ridiculous notions of suicide. I know it's stupid, but I can't help the thoughts that pop into my head. What can say other than that since my hair transplant, I have become depressed. That's just the way it is right now for me.
2. I've been overall VERY dissatisfied with nearly everything about this abomination that was done to my head. Not a single day doesn't go by that I don't say to myself this was the biggest stupidest mistake of my life!
3. Hello, i had a hair transplant1,5 years ago. All was ok, until 1 year everything was fine, the thin areas were nicely filling in. But after 1 year the transplanted hairs became too thick and coarse, and now they look unnatural
4. I have deep depression due to the skin scars and this fake hairline, it create huge anxiety by million time than hair loss, i did not know i have to sacrifice my skin to have fake hair
5. Not sure how or what I'm going to do 3-8 years down the road as my hair loss continues to advance. Anyway, my advice to everyone is to do what I was unable to do at the period in my life..... That is simply accept yourself. Hair Transplants are almost NEVER the answer

 

[Big L]

Go away you are seriously annoying. And I don't even care about your content. The fact you post the same stuff over and over again, I mean do you have a life?

The fact you spend time writing the same stuff eg long winded responses is hilarious.

 

[topcat]

Readers look for patients that have surgery and update in real time so you can follow their progress. When they update on a consistent basis there is nothing to hide. If they disappear regardless of the excuse it should catch your attention. The problem with these posters that talk it all up and many of them never even having had a procedureis they give the industry a slimy look. The perception is they are groomers for pedophiles in a way and that is bad for anyone who is honest. The small group of surgeons and any forums that decide to go down the righteous path.

You guys that keep trying to hide truth don't get it. It's old............ nobody is buying into it any more and honest doctors don't want to be part of marketing fraud. The repercussions are too great one only needs to research the judgments. So maybe you should just stop it and go away. It leaves more room for honest people to start moving this all in the right direction.

I might have well over a thousand stories I just have not taken the time to count and I can't possibly use them all. Yes it's a very dark history so everyone needs to start moving towards the light just a suggestion though everyone has free will.


This is just a small taste I don't have room in my book for everything. It's just too much and this covers only one area. There is so much more. If you are researching hair transplants it's best to just observe you will be safer.

1. I'm ashamed to admit but in my darkest hours I've even grappled with ridiculous notions of suicide. I know it's stupid, but I can't help the thoughts that pop into my head. What can say other than that since my hair transplant, I have become depressed. That's just the way it is right now for me.
2. I've been overall VERY dissatisfied with nearly everything about this abomination that was done to my head. Not a single day doesn't go by that I don't say to myself this was the biggest stupidest mistake of my life!
3. Hello, i had a hair transplant1,5 years ago. All was ok, until 1 year everything was fine, the thin areas were nicely filling in. But after 1 year the transplanted hairs became too thick and coarse, and now they look unnatural
4. I have deep depression due to the skin scars and this fake hairline, it create huge anxiety by million time than hair loss, i did not know i have to sacrifice my skin to have fake hair
5. Not sure how or what I'm going to do 3-8 years down the road as my hair loss continues to advance. Anyway, my advice to everyone is to do what I was unable to do at the period in my life..... That is simply accept yourself. Hair Transplants are almost NEVER the answer

 

[gimmiehairorgimmiedeath]

Topcat is an expert at fear mongering. He should be banned. I mean what good do any of your posts do topcat? Just annoying reading through your bullshit over and over again. Its just the same sh*t.

Yeah he's blatantly pushing his own book with these posts, not even being subtle about it. Then accuses anyone who has something positive to say about hair transplant of being a shill even though they haven't pushed one doctor over any other and also highlight the limitations and pitfalls of them (aka it's always gunna be an illusion of density, pick a great doctor, etc). Gotta drum up the narrative that "everyone is out to get you and if you don't read my book you'll regret it".

 

[topcat]

Yeah he's blatantly pushing his own book with these posts, not even being subtle about it. Then accuses anyone who has something positive to say about hair transplant of being a shill even though they haven't pushed one doctor over any other and also highlight the limitations and pitfalls of them (aka it's always gunna be an illusion of density, pick a great doctor, etc). Gotta drum up the narrative that "everyone is out to get you and if you don't read my book you'll regret it".

Sorry but I don't believe in that and it's exactly why I don't link to any of my websites. That is something a marketing parasite would only do as it is their nature. It is their nature to parasite off of others. It's also why if you research the most highly skilled doctors in the hair transplant industry they are not closely tied to marketers. They are closely tied to their own skill and results over many years.

Everything I do is based on organic growth. What I do here is add content and I do it for free. Forums are looking for honest content because honest content attracts honest sponsors. I want to see this forum attract honest sponsors and make as much money as they can. I have no issues with it at all and if I can help I will do so.

One of the doctors from the past had a patient put a .44 magnum to his own chest and blow a hole in himself. This doctor was on one of these paid lists that closely vet the doctor. If you watch the lists close enough over time they change for a reason. But the good news about this patient that tried to commit suicide is he survived and went on to sue the doctor. It's only after he won the 6 figure judgment that the doctor stopped offering the procedure. Patients of today don't wait, your ability to sue is in the area of marketing fraud if you feel you have been misled and not with a poor cosmetic outcome.




This is all real and the truth is out there.

1. I'm ashamed to admit but in my darkest hours I've even grappled with ridiculous notions of suicide. I know it's stupid, but I can't help the thoughts that pop into my head. What can say other than that since my hair transplant, I have become depressed. That's just the way it is right now for me.
2. I've been overall VERY dissatisfied with nearly everything about this abomination that was done to my head. Not a single day doesn't go by that I don't say to myself this was the biggest stupidest mistake of my life!
3. Hello, i had a hair transplant1,5 years ago. All was ok, until 1 year everything was fine, the thin areas were nicely filling in. But after 1 year the transplanted hairs became too thick and coarse, and now they look unnatural
4. I have deep depression due to the skin scars and this fake hairline, it create huge anxiety by million time than hair loss, i did not know i have to sacrifice my skin to have fake hair
5. Not sure how or what I'm going to do 3-8 years down the road as my hair loss continues to advance. Anyway, my advice to everyone is to do what I was unable to do at the period in my life..... That is simply accept yourself. Hair Transplants are almost NEVER the answer

 

[gimmiehairorgimmiedeath]

Sorry but I don't believe in that and it's exactly why I don't link to any of my websites. That is something a marketing parasite would only do as it is their nature. It is their nature to parasite off of others. It's also why if you research the most highly skilled doctors in the hair transplant industry they are not closely tied to marketers. They are closely tied to their own skill and results over many years.

Everything I do is based on organic growth. What I do here is add content and I do it for free. Forums are looking for honest content because honest content attracts honest sponsors. I want to see this forum attract honest sponsors and make as much money as they can. I have no issues with it at all and if I can help I will do so.

One of the doctors from the past had a patient put a .44 magnum to his own chest and blow a hole in himself. This doctor was on one of these paid lists that closely vet the doctor. If you watch the lists close enough over time they change for a reason. But the good news about this patient that tried to commit suicide is he survived and went on to sue the doctor. It's only after he won the 6 figure judgment that the doctor stopped offering the procedure. Patients of today don't wait, your ability to sue is in the area of marketing fraud if you feel you have been misled and not with a poor cosmetic outcome.

The bolded I agree with, at most they have one or two previous patients turned into forum reps that clearly label themselves as such on the forums and are there to answer questions and sh*t. I don't have a problem with those guys since you know they are affiliated and they aren't pushy or overly biased. It's the ones who try to act impartial and unaffiliated but obviously are pushing their Doctor and shitting on his competitors at every opportunity that get annoying. I'd like to think no one falls for their bullshit but I'm sure it happens. Ultimately though it's up to the prospective patient to do their f*****g research and not be so naive and easily duped, it's their head that's on the line.

Also why do you keep adding those negative experiences at the end of every post? I could easily go get some that are the opposite and keep hammering "the readers" with them but that would only paint part of the story of hair transplants in general and for someone to make an informed decision they need the total picture. It's disingenuous to focus only on one side of the equation, hence why I feel you are pushing a narrative because you never talk about the amazing outcomes that change guy's lives immeasurably for the better, it's all doom and gloom.

 

[topcat]

The majority of the forums are overwhelmed with marketers moving the conversation in a specific direction in order to control human behavior in a way that benefits them. Therefore 90+% of the material is pro hair transplant. The question is why does anybody have an issue with a poster bringing some balance which is not even close to being true balance because the number of men who have had this procedure and are not 100% satisfied because they didn’t understand it and they didn’t understand it because they were not given all the information is probably well over 50%. So I’m not sure what you are talking about.

Maybe the issue is with the truth. That can be very hard for many to stomach if it affects their bottom line. Most get into this business because it’s easy money. You have desperate young guys who are not in a position to use logic and it all becomes too easy.

When young guys come onto to a forum to convince other young guys to have a hair transplant it’s not normal behavior. In fact it’s the behavior of a predator. It needs to be pointed out to the young guys that visit forums looking for information. It’s very normal for an older person that had a great deal of experience to want to pass his experience on. I guess you just don’t get it and you don’t understand how you are perceived. What you are doing has been done for the last 20 years it doesn’t work anymore. How are you going to suppress hundreds of podcasts which deal in the issues of health, fitness, and men's issues...............you can't the game is over so maybe you need to stop.

This is all real and the truth is out there.

1. I'm ashamed to admit but in my darkest hours I've even grappled with ridiculous notions of suicide. I know it's stupid, but I can't help the thoughts that pop into my head. What can say other than that since my hair transplant, I have become depressed. That's just the way it is right now for me.
2. I've been overall VERY dissatisfied with nearly everything about this abomination that was done to my head. Not a single day doesn't go by that I don't say to myself this was the biggest stupidest mistake of my life!
3. Hello, i had a hair transplant1,5 years ago. All was ok, until 1 year everything was fine, the thin areas were nicely filling in. But after 1 year the transplanted hairs became too thick and coarse, and now they look unnatural
4. I have deep depression due to the skin scars and this fake hairline, it create huge anxiety by million time than hair loss, i did not know i have to sacrifice my skin to have fake hair
5. Not sure how or what I'm going to do 3-8 years down the road as my hair loss continues to advance. Anyway, my advice to everyone is to do what I was unable to do at the period in my life..... That is simply accept yourself. Hair Transplants are almost NEVER the answer

 

[gimmiehairorgimmiedeath]

The majority of the forums are overwhelmed with marketers moving the conversation in a specific direction in order to control human behavior in a way that benefits them. Therefore 90+% of the material is pro hair transplant. The question is why does anybody have an issue with a poster bringing some balance which is not even close to being true balance because the number of men who have had this procedure and are not 100% satisfied because they didn’t understand it and they didn’t understand it because they were not given all the information is probably well over 50%. So I’m not sure what you are talking about.

Maybe the issue is with the truth. That can be very hard for many to stomach if it affects their bottom line. Most get into this business because it’s easy money. You have desperate young guys who are not in a position to use logic and it all becomes too easy.

When young guys come onto to a forum to convince other young guys to have a hair transplant it’s not normal behavior. In fact it’s the behavior of a predator. It needs to be pointed out to the young guys that visit forums looking for information. It’s very normal for an older person that had a great deal of experience to want to pass his experience on. I guess you just don’t get it and you don’t understand how you are perceived. What you are doing has been done for the last 20 years it doesn’t work anymore. How are you going to suppress hundreds of podcasts which deal in the issues of health, fitness, and men's issues...............you can't the game is over so maybe you need to stop.

This is all real and the truth is out there.

1. I'm ashamed to admit but in my darkest hours I've even grappled with ridiculous notions of suicide. I know it's stupid, but I can't help the thoughts that pop into my head. What can say other than that since my hair transplant, I have become depressed. That's just the way it is right now for me.
2. I've been overall VERY dissatisfied with nearly everything about this abomination that was done to my head. Not a single day doesn't go by that I don't say to myself this was the biggest stupidest mistake of my life!
3. Hello, i had a hair transplant1,5 years ago. All was ok, until 1 year everything was fine, the thin areas were nicely filling in. But after 1 year the transplanted hairs became too thick and coarse, and now they look unnatural
4. I have deep depression due to the skin scars and this fake hairline, it create huge anxiety by million time than hair loss, i did not know i have to sacrifice my skin to have fake hair
5. Not sure how or what I'm going to do 3-8 years down the road as my hair loss continues to advance. Anyway, my advice to everyone is to do what I was unable to do at the period in my life..... That is simply accept yourself. Hair Transplants are almost NEVER the answer

You sound like a conspiracy theorist.

It's real simple: Do the research, be skeptical and go with a top surgeon or you're likely gunna have a bad time. There, I just wrote it for you. Don't go to hair mills in Turkey and then complain about the bad result as if it wasn't easy to see it coming from a mile off.

Only reason I even chimed in on this thread is that one guy apparently had been drinking your kool-aid and thinks the entire hair transplant industry is a fraud/scam, which is retarded hyperbolic crap exactly like what you've been pushing. There's good and bad parts of it just like any other industry and it's up to the consumer to educate themselves and navigate it and make a good decision.

 

[MrHulley]

Anytime someone challenges this guy's bullshit he says to not worry about what he's doing - "it's for the readers". It's no different than if you ask him a question and he sticks his fingers in his ears and starts saying "Lalalalalalalala". Maybe he should find a safe space.

 

[topcat]

So this is how it works if you are a reader. When you go for a procedure and it's not what you thought and you come back here where you got your information and if these guys don't want you posting about it then this is what you get. Now ask yourself do you really want to do this if the result is bad and there is no where to turn. Probably not so give it some long hard thought. Notice the multiple screen names kind of like a tag team effect.

It's a repeatable pattern that can be viewed over 20 years one only needs to research the history on some forums. Please don't just take my word for it.

Guys like Paleo that thought Turkey was a good bet for example are told to get some mental counseling by this same group. If it is not exposed here it doesn't matter but it does benefit this forum to be honest. So let's do our part. These guys have very little time to make as much money as possible which can easily be lost back and more to judgments. It's only a matter of time. The clock for them is ticking.

 

[Tano1]

Go away you are seriously annoying. And I don't even care about your content. The fact you post the same stuff over and over again, I mean do you have a life?

The fact you spend time writing the same stuff eg long winded responses is hilarious.

I didn't consider FUT at all and was going to hold off on anything for a couple of years to hope for these upcoming treatments, but some people from the forum told me that it was better...
Higher yield and all that good stuff. Hard to resist claims like that.

I'm sure it wasn't in their intention to push me to take some wrong path, but I would've changed my mind had there have been both of the biased sides stating their points.

Had a successful FUE and a failed FUT.

Now I'm just trying to get out of this and conceal my scar well enough to buzz everything.

You can disagree with topcat, but I like his info and there's others who read it too because we have talked in other threads.

I don't think it would be fair if everyone tries to run someone off the forums because their point of view is different unless they're obviously trolling. It may not be beneficial to you, but to me it allows me to research both sides now and the claims they've made before arriving at how I want to proceed.

 

[JeanLucBB]

We are in complete agreement. It can be life destroying for many they just don't realize it because the industry is certainly not going to explain it. Why would they?

With the high likelihood of it looking like complete sh*t they can easily become obsessed with trying to fix it. While their friends all move on getting married, having kids, etc they are stuck still in the 20's many without escape. They are locked in the hair transplant industry box and the hair transplant marketers love it. They often use those that are locked in the box to lure in others because this is what predators do. Sorry but much of this seems to be true and doctors seem to be aware of what is going on. So it then becomes a choice to participate. Obviously one has to show their results but all this other crap.............is complete marketing fraud.

Thankfully for me my experience at 23 didn't destroy my life but I had to work at it. Doing things like stand up comedy, improv, public speaking, etc. I didn't want to be in that box and now I have moved on to a great deal of writing. Working in the night club scene for 25+ years I think was pivotal. My social life was way above normal.............wouldn't have changed that for the world. It was an amazing time.

Where do I go to hear one of your stand up shows buddy?