cops get revenge on copkiller

Nene

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I can't believe all this. Police brutality is a real problem in America. This site is full of Brits so you might not know, but go look up Sean Bell, Amadou Dialo and Abner Louima for starters. It is NEVER okay for the cops to take justice into their own hands. Not when the accused is clearly innocent, not when the accused is clearly guilty, NEVER!! This isn't China, this isn't Nazi Germany, this isn't some 3rd world country, this is America where laws are supposed to mean something. For those of you wanting the guy to end up in a wheel chair, we are all protected from cruel and unusual punishment. I also wonder if he would've gotten the same treatment if he was white, or how many of you would be screaming for him to be crippled or killed?
 

Nene

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finfighter said:
Smooth said:
I think that today it is a good thing cops do justice from time to time, i mean you cant really trust the curt to do justice these days.... they should have killed him and say he resisted an arrest.

Yeah your right, the cops should be able to kill anyone, and then lie about the reason they did. Give me a break!
The whole point of a court system is to take time and consideration to determine beyond a reasonable doubt that someone is guilty of an alledged crime. I know in this instance it was oubvious that he was guilty, but what about the other instances where someone appeared guilty when they were not. Should the police have that much power, of deciding whether or not someone lives? No! Of course not. ''Absolute power corrupts absolutely''.

Thank you!!!!
 

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Nene said:
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Given the situation, I have absolutely no problem with what happened. It would have been even better if he was confined to a wheelchair.

You're an ignorant, dumb a**hole. We have LAWS for a reason. For this guy to break the law and kill someone is wrong, but for the cops to break the law that they are supposed to enforce and uphold, is also wrong! We are all entitled to a fair and speedy trial, he will get what's coming to him after he is found guilty and sentenced. To beat him up in addition to whatever punishment he gets is not right.

How old are you? 12? Grow the hell up.

There is absolutely no reason to call me an a**h**---I wasn't the only one in this thread that feels this way and am quite entitled to my opinion. If you disagree that's your business but I would have to say that your attacking me for my opinion pretty much makes you the a**h**.

If that cop was your father or brother, I'm sure your opinion would be quite different--- although I'm sure you won't admit to that.
 

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...and since you're so fond of the court system---they were found to be NOT GUILTY!!
 

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DrakeWeAreLEAVING! said:
Cant believe the number of people here condoning police brutailty or thinking its ok for cops to break the law (even if a suspect is guilty),as for 'soft touch britain' for fucks sake stop reading the daily mail!

i bet all the people here condoning road side beatings and executions would be the first crying their eyes out if it happened to them or their family members.

:jackit:

If you came home with your friends some night, and found some guy climbing out of your window and you run inside and find that he raped and murdered your wife.

You and your friends chase after and catch this guy.

What are you going to do?

"Uh gee guys, maybe he didnt' do it so let's not hit him or anything. Maybe we should just hold him here for the cops and be nice to him, after all he deserves to be treated fairly."

NO

YOU WOULD BEAT THE LIVING sh*t OUT OF HIM.

The cops acted as human beings. This was hardly your typical roadsite beating/cop brutality situation which in most instances I do not condone.
 

Smooth

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If i was a cop in that department id do the most i can to get him killed, legally or illegally. hopefully the cops in the jail will take care of that.
 

cuebald

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DrakeWeAreLEAVING! said:
Cant believe the number of people here condoning police brutailty or thinking its ok for cops to break the law (even if a suspect is guilty),as for 'soft touch britain' for fucks sake stop reading the daily mail!

i bet all the people here condoning road side beatings and executions would be the first crying their eyes out if it happened to them or their family members.

:jackit:

People saying the police should be soft (middle class lefties, champagne socialists, New Labour voters) are amongst the reasons that woman burnt herself and her child to death because of the bullying she suffered at the hands of chavs in her street. (remember that?)

The coppers did nothing then because they are too afraid to go in and bonk a few skulls - show the chavs who's boss.

Instead, we get those kids running feral, doing what they want, burning down schools (one in Bridgend last month) and houses with fireworks (one in Swansea not so long ago)

The old Commissioner Ian Blair (another far-left tosspot) is partly to blame for this nonsense. He's more for prisoners rights than victims rights. Going to far as to blame "class division" for a con's crimes rather than the fact that the con has had no discipline (because the police won't/can't act) and so thinks he can do as he wishes. (also, the fact is, that some people are just criminals. No amount of social engineering and psychology tricks will reform them)

Ian Blair lives in a middle class enclave and has no idea what life on most inner city estates is like. I am glad he has resigned.
 

Belmondo

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Damn! I don't get it, why on earth was he wearing that mask?

a) To humiliate him?

b) To hide his injuries?

c) As a genuine safety measure?
 

Belmondo

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Fascinating story.

I'm a former lawyer and I'm trying to rationalize things, but I really don't know what to think of this. I have mixed feelings about all this.

a) AGAINST (this is my REASON speaking):

I'm all in favor of revenge if the legal system doesn't work. But the legal system did work in this case: he got a fair trial and was severely punished in the end.

The cops only did it because he killed a cop. Cops should not be a priviliged elite, they're no better than the rest of us and they must set an example when it comes to obbeying the law.

b) PRO (now it's time for the HEART to speak):

The guy is a scum bag and he totally deserves to be punished.

His injuries were not permanent and he recovered from the beating.

His suffering is diminute compared to the suffering of the victims and their relatives.
 

Smooth

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ill make it easier on you Belmondo, the guy should be killed. plain simple, by the cops or law, in my eyes it doesnt matter.... id prefer tho that the cops would kill him to teach the rest a lesson not to f*** with the police.
 

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DrakeWeAreLEAVING! said:
beaner said:
If you came home with your friends some night, and found some guy climbing out of your window and you run inside and find that he raped and murdered your wife.

You and your friends chase after and catch this guy.

What are you going to do?

"Uh gee guys, maybe he didnt' do it so let's not hit him or anything. Maybe we should just hold him here for the cops and be nice to him, after all he deserves to be treated fairly."

NO

YOU WOULD BEAT THE LIVING sh*t OUT OF HIM.

The cops acted as human beings. This was hardly your typical roadsite beating/cop brutality situation which in most instances I do not condone.

that example is moot because we're talking about a completely different situation.as for me beating the living sh*t out of him,not everyone reacts the same way AT ALL.

Oh, I tend to believe that 99.9% of guys in my example would have beat the guy silly ---except perhaps you of course.

Anyway, this particular case isn't even in the same ball park with your run of the mill cop on a power trip who pulls someone out of their car and beats them for a traffic violation or even beats someone in the interrogation room. As far as they were concerned, he just blew away another cop, was possibly still armed, and obviously dangerous---they were found not guilty just as they should have been.

That's about all I have to say.
 

Nene

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I shouldn't have called you an a**h** beaner, I apologize. Of course I would feel different if my father was the cop who got shot, but would you feel different if it was your father who shot the cop?
 

s.a.f

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Nene said:
I would feel different if my father was the cop who got shot, but would you feel different if it was your father who shot the cop?

Nope I would'nt if my dad was a complete scumbag criminal and did that I'd even give the cops a hand. :box:
 

beaner

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Nene said:
I shouldn't have called you an a**hole beaner, I apologize. Of course I would feel different if my father was the cop who got shot, but would you feel different if it was your father who shot the cop?

Apology accepted, I know when people feel strongly about something they some times say things--I'm sure I've done it many times.

If my father did something like that he would have deserved whatever beating he received, although I might feel a little worse about the whole situation than if it were some random scumbag.
 
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