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Without 5ar-enzymes on our scalp the sebaceous gland is innoperative, my question is: how
flexible and lustrous would be our hair? mummy type?
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flexible and lustrous would be our hair? mummy type?
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The trial and error in connection with inhibiting DHT versus blocking all androgens has already been done. Blocking all androgens works better than only inhibiting the one androgen - DHT. This has been known for a long time. The researchers involved with this project are fools. It's so predictable what will happen. They will literally waste 5 - 10 years running their gene-editing DHT inhibiting technology through trials, get mediocre results, and then publicly say, "Now we're going to try using gene-editing to block all androgens in the scalp instead of just DHT because we think we could get better results if we block all androgens instead of only inhibiting DHT." What a bunch of jackasses.Trial & Error
Even if this effort to impact on DHT works it will only work on ONE androgen - DHT. It won't work on the other androgens. So there will still be androgens binding to androgen receptors in your scalp and hair growth benefit will be limited. In order to get better results you need to block all androgens, not just one.Gene editing is done at NIH for cancer treatments for last 20 years at least. We still have cancer. But what they are trying is to use a topical, encapsulated in bubbles, burst it with ultrasound? and thus edit the androgen receptors to be immune from DHT damage. Great hypothesis.. But does this work, is it efficacious?
Even if this effort to impact on DHT works it will only work on ONE androgen - DHT. It won't work on the other androgens. So there will still be androgens binding to androgen receptors in your scalp and hair growth benefit will be limited. In order to get better results you need to block all androgens, not just one.
This is why smart companies are working on androgen receptor blockers like CB even though 5AR inhibiors have been on the market for a long time. his Korean group is showing what fools they are because they're going back to the 1990s and focusing on only DHT whereas everyone else has figured out that they need to focus on the androgen receptor so they can negate all androgens in the scalp. They have their heads up their asses.
Pretty much we're gonna have to choose between hair or beard
Or is it that AR antagnoists block ALL DHT in the scalp instead of just 40% of it.The thing is that it's already understood that DHT is not the only androgen that promotes hair loss. That's why androgen receptor blockers are more effective against hair loss than 5 AR blockers such as finasteride and dutasteride. Androgen receptor blockers work against all androgens whereas 5 AR inhibitors work only against the one androgen called DHT.
Except we don't, because even the strongest one, dutasteride, only reduces scalp DHT by 60%~. At least this would likely work for everyone.I agree 100%. They're fools for using gene editing on 5AR when we've already had 5AR inhibitors in the marketplace for years. They should be using gene editing on the androgen receptor. What a bunch of asses.
So what's your point? It sounds like you want them to put more time into 5-alpha reductase inhibitors, which only reduce dht, even though androgen receptor-blockers, which negate all androgens, work better and even though we've had 5-alpha reductase inhibitors for awhile and we aren't satisfied with them.Except we don't, because even the strongest one, dutasteride, only reduces scalp DHT by 60%~. At least this would likely work for everyone.
You've put me on ignore because I stated a simple fact? You have some issues man.So what's your point? It sounds like you want them to put more time into 5-alpha reductase inhibitors, which only reduce dht, even though androgen receptor-blockers, which negate all androgens, work better and even though we've had 5-alpha reductase inhibitors for awhile and we aren't satisfied with them.
Great!
Fortunately for you, Cassiopea is on board with the thinking of guys like me and disinterested in what guys like you are saying. You'll get a breakthrough treatment for hair loss sooner because companies, like Cassiopea, are on board with what the guys like me and ignoring guys like you.
I've put you on ignore because you drag the discussion backwards into the past instead of moving the discussion forward. Smart men already have already learnt that a potent androgen-blocker is better than a potent drug that only works on DHT because a potent androgen-blocker negates more androgen. DHT isn't the only androgen homie.
You are missing the point. Using finasteride/dutasteride only inhibits 40%-60% of scalp DHT. So maybe this does not work for everyone because there is still scalp DHT left? That is basically what Moogi Medi is betting on. Or (your point) other androgens are the cause. We simply don't knowSo what's your point? It sounds like you want them to put more time into 5-alpha reductase inhibitors, which only reduce dht, even though androgen receptor-blockers, which negate all androgens, work better and even though we've had 5-alpha reductase inhibitors for awhile and we aren't satisfied with them.
Great!
Fortunately for you, Cassiopea is on board with the thinking of guys like me and disinterested in what guys like you are saying. You'll get a breakthrough treatment for hair loss sooner because companies, like Cassiopea, are on board with what the guys like me and ignoring guys like you.
I've put you on ignore because you drag the discussion backwards into the past instead of moving the discussion forward. Smart men already have already learnt that a potent androgen-blocker is better than a potent drug that only works on DHT because a potent androgen-blocker negates more androgen. DHT isn't the only androgen homie.
But T isn’t solely converted to DHT locally in the dermal papilla cells? By only reducing 5-ar in the scalp, won’t free DHT in the blood wreck havoc on the hair follicles?You are missing the point. Using finasteride/dutasteride only inhibits 40%-60% of scalp DHT. So maybe this does not work for everyone because there is still scalp DHT left? That is basically what Moogi Medi is betting on. Or (your point) other androgens are the cause. We simply don't know
You are missing the point. Using finasteride/dutasteride only inhibits 40%-60% of scalp DHT. So maybe this does not work for everyone because there is still scalp DHT left? That is basically what Moogi Medi is betting on. Or (your point) other androgens are the cause. We simply don't know
You are missing the point. Using finasteride/dutasteride only inhibits 40%-60% of scalp DHT. So maybe this does not work for everyone because there is still scalp DHT left? That is basically what Moogi Medi is betting on. Or (your point) other androgens are the cause. We simply don't know
You don't know but I do.Or (your point) other androgens are the cause. We simply don't know
You don't know but I do.
and ultimately it doesn't matter genius because if you block all androgens in the scalp (like I want to) that means you will also block all DHT anyway whereas if you only negate DHT (like you want to) then the remaining androgens will still be able to take your hair *if *they have the power to do so, genius. Why take chances genius? Why not do the smart thing and negate all of the androgens in the skin of your scalp, genius?
You're on ignore for being a fool